what the hell? Did we turn a major corner or is Cincy closet bums?
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Pettine and co. out-coached the Bengals. On a short week, it's all about focusing on the right things and getting your guys ready to play in 4 days. Give our team credit for being prepared ... and executing of course...
To the OP... the difference on D is simply guys adjusting to the scheme. The difference between Horton and Pettine's 3-4 D is significant, and it took these guys a few games to adjust. Now that they have, this D looks GOOD!!
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What I don't get is, how do we have any passing game at all without Gordon, Cameron and Hawkins? Hoyer must me the man! No reason Manziel should feel bad being on the bench.
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What I don't get is, how do we have any passing game at all without Gordon, Cameron and Hawkins? Hoyer must me the man! No reason Manziel should feel bad being on the bench.
What I don't get is, how do we have any passing game at all without Gordon, Cameron and Hawkins? Hoyer must me the man! No reason Manziel should feel bad being on the bench.
Hoyer is great at being non-discriminatory with the ball.
One some scoring drives he ends up getting the ball to 8 targets.
Tonight, looked like Benji was his favorite target in a skimp receiving group.
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Did anyone else see Sheard completely annihilate Little on that last pick?
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They simply overlooked us. Just like when we analyzed our schedule...this games a win, this is a loss etc. we were their "trap game"
No, they simply got their asses handed to them by the better team in this particular game. Playing at home for first place in the division on national television and you're saying they "overlooked" a 5-3 opponent? Seriously?
No, they simply got their asses handed to them by the better team in this particular game. Playing at home for first place in the division on national television and you're saying they "overlooked" a 5-3 opponent? Seriously?
We lost to the Jags...need i say more?
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Reading this made me vomit.
do you disagree? do you think that generally cleveland sports fans are level headed, rational, and intelligent?
do you disagree? do you think that generally cleveland sports fans are level headed, rational, and intelligent?
I don't think your fans are dumb; they're just traumatized by years of losing.
Funny things is that I've been watching your team and Hoyer since last year, and what's plainly obvious to me is that he's got it. He may not be "elite," but he's NFL-starter quality, certainly more so than Orton or Fitzpatrick or a dozen other guys (including Dalton). He's got an arm, makes good throws, and he doesn't panic in the pocket. That last part is the hardest for young QBs to pick up-- check out Weeden, he's decent when there's no pass rush, but as soon as a rusher comes within 3 feet of him he freaks out and throws a laser into row 50.
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do you disagree? do you think that generally cleveland sports fans are level headed, rational, and intelligent?
I don't think your fans are dumb; they're just traumatized by years of losing.
Funny things is that I've been watching your team and Hoyer since last year, and what's plainly obvious to me is that he's got it. He may not be "elite," but he's NFL-starter quality, certainly more so than Orton or Fitzpatrick or a dozen other guys (including Dalton). He's got an arm, makes good throws, and he doesn't panic in the pocket. That last part is the hardest for young QBs to pick up-- check out Weeden, he's decent when there's no pass rush, but as soon as a rusher comes within 3 feet of him he freaks out and throws a laser into row 50.
I don't think your fans are dumb; they're just traumatized by years of losing.
Funny things is that I've been watching your team and Hoyer since last year, and what's plainly obvious to me is that he's got it. He may not be "elite," but he's NFL-starter quality, certainly more so than Orton or Fitzpatrick or a dozen other guys (including Dalton). He's got an arm, makes good throws, and he doesn't panic in the pocket. That last part is the hardest for young QBs to pick up-- check out Weeden, he's decent when there's no pass rush, but as soon as a rusher comes within 3 feet of him he freaks out and throws a laser into row 50.
A laser into row 50 would've been infinitely smarter than a lot of what we saw.
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Congrats on your win, btw. It blows my mind that some of your fans don't realize what you have in Hoyer.
cleveland has the dumbest sports fan base in the country.. its embarrassing really. try listening to an hour of cleveland sports radio and hear the callers. go read up on what they're saying about the cavs on social media and message boards. we can win out and get the top spot in the AFC and still our fan base will be clamoring for manziel because " we wont be able to win int he playoffs with boring ol' hoyer!". it's nauseating
cleveland has the dumbest sports fan base in the country..
If so, then you are a primary contributor to that statistic
its embarrassing really. try listening to an hour of cleveland sports radio and hear the callers. go read up on what they're saying about the cavs on social media and message boards. we can win out and get the top spot in the AFC and still our fan base will be clamoring for manziel because " we wont be able to win int he playoffs with boring ol' hoyer!". it's nauseating
You are just making up stupid shit. No one is clamoring for Johnny. What is nauseating are boneheads like you complaining about other fans.
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No, they simply got their asses handed to them by the better team in this particular game. Playing at home for first place in the division on national television and you're saying they "overlooked" a 5-3 opponent? Seriously?
We lost to the Jags...need i say more?
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We took 5/6 past games.
I think that's pretty cool even if we lost to jax
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No, they simply got their asses handed to them by the better team in this particular game. Playing at home for first place in the division on national television and you're saying they "overlooked" a 5-3 opponent? Seriously?
We lost to the Jags...need i say more?
We lost to the Jags...need i say more?
Yes, you do, because your point is still invalid. Any team can beat any other team in the NFL. It has everything to do with who is more motivated to win. The Jags beat us because they were motivated on that particular Sunday, and we beat the Bengals because we were more motivated on this particular Thursday.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
What I don't get is, how do we have any passing game at all without Gordon, Cameron and Hawkins? Hoyer must me the man! No reason Manziel should feel bad being on the bench.
What I don't get is, how do we have any passing game at all without Gordon, Cameron and Hawkins? Hoyer must me the man! No reason Manziel should feel bad being on the bench.
It's partly the system. Play-action creates wide open receivers, and Hoyer is good enough to execute the system. Props to Hoyer, though, he made some good passes in tight spaces.
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I think the win was a combination of Browns starting to gel and Cinci just having a bad game (especially Dalton, wow). I'm sure the Bungles will be better prepared next time we play in Cleveland.
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We lost to the Jags...need i say more?
Yes, you do, because your point is still invalid. Any team can beat any other team in the NFL. It has everything to do with who is more motivated to win. The Jags beat us because they were motivated on that particular Sunday, and we beat the Bengals because we were more motivated on this particular Thursday.
Yes, you do, because your point is still invalid. Any team can beat any other team in the NFL. It has everything to do with who is more motivated to win. The Jags beat us because they were motivated on that particular Sunday, and we beat the Bengals because we were more motivated on this particular Thursday.
Look, im so pumped at our record, how awesome we played, how great everyone looked. All i was saying was responding to the original posters question. Dude, im a believer in the browns. I was saying they probably did a little overlooking when they saw us on the schedule. All teams do it. I think that enabled us to get on them and up early, and they didnt realize how good we really are. I dont want to argue with you man, we are in First FUCKING place!!!!!!!
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I'm still stoked about Desmond Hate fucking Andy two plays in a row
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The truth is both, that the Bengals aren't very good and that the Browns are turning out to be pretty good, while my Ravens have taken the vacant seat at the bottom of the division usually filled by Cleveland.
I stand by what I said a few weeks ago, final 6 weeks coming up will be crucial. That said, a win next week would be huge, because you guys could split the rest of your games after that and still be 10-6.
To be fair, you guys are benefiting from a injury plagued Bengals and Ravens team, and you also have a surging Steelers team to compete with. As the Ravens and Bengals get healthy, this is gonna be a wild finish for the division, and the 1 wildcard spot not filled by an AFC West team.
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The truth is both, that the Bengals aren't very good and that the Browns are turning out to be pretty good, while my Ravens have taken the vacant seat at the bottom of the division usually filled by Cleveland.
I stand by what I said a few weeks ago, final 6 weeks coming up will be crucial. That said, a win next week would be huge, because you guys could split the rest of your games after that and still be 10-6.
To be fair, you guys are benefiting from a injury plagued Bengals and Ravens team, and you also have a surging Steelers team to compete with. As the Ravens and Bengals get healthy, this is gonna be a wild finish for the division, and the 1 wildcard spot not filled by an AFC West team.
afcnorthravensfan509 said:
The truth is both, that the Bengals aren't very good and that the Browns are turning out to be pretty good, while my Ravens have taken the vacant seat at the bottom of the division usually filled by Cleveland.
I stand by what I said a few weeks ago, final 6 weeks coming up will be crucial. That said, a win next week would be huge, because you guys could split the rest of your games after that and still be 10-6.
To be fair, you guys are benefiting from a injury plagued Bengals and Ravens team, and you also have a surging Steelers team to compete with. As the Ravens and Bengals get healthy, this is gonna be a wild finish for the division, and the 1 wildcard spot not filled by an AFC West team.
Do you suppose we are benefiting from missing three Pro-Bowlers on our offense, too? So to be fair, we are still winning despite missing Alex Mack, Josh Gordon, and Jordan Cameron. Not to mention our d-line has also been injured. I don't remember the last time we had all three starters at the same time. Oh yeah, and our leading receiver was out last night, too.
Everyone gets injured. The Browns are showing they can play through that adversity.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
The truth is both, that the Bengals aren't very good and that the Browns are turning out to be pretty good, while my Ravens have taken the vacant seat at the bottom of the division usually filled by Cleveland.
I stand by what I said a few weeks ago, final 6 weeks coming up will be crucial. That said, a win next week would be huge, because you guys could split the rest of your games after that and still be 10-6.
To be fair, you guys are benefiting from a injury plagued Bengals and Ravens team, and you also have a surging Steelers team to compete with. As the Ravens and Bengals get healthy, this is gonna be a wild finish for the division, and the 1 wildcard spot not filled by an AFC West team.
afcnorthravensfan509 said:
The truth is both, that the Bengals aren't very good and that the Browns are turning out to be pretty good, while my Ravens have taken the vacant seat at the bottom of the division usually filled by Cleveland.
I stand by what I said a few weeks ago, final 6 weeks coming up will be crucial. That said, a win next week would be huge, because you guys could split the rest of your games after that and still be 10-6.
To be fair, you guys are benefiting from a injury plagued Bengals and Ravens team, and you also have a surging Steelers team to compete with. As the Ravens and Bengals get healthy, this is gonna be a wild finish for the division, and the 1 wildcard spot not filled by an AFC West team.
The browns aren't injury plagued? It's week 10 everybody's banged up. We're missing 3 offensive pro bowlers and have battled with defensive line injuries all year.
It's not easy coming into a losing franchise and changing the culture. Looks like Farmer and Pettine are succeeding though, hats off to them.
And I agree with neon deion about hoyer, pay the man!
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Everyone that gets high on their horse before getting dominated by the Patriots just completely fall to pieces.
Houston showed up in 2012 wearing letterman jackets and they still haven't recovered from their ass whuppin'. I think the Patriots crushed Cinci's soul earlier in the season, and Cleveland curb stomped their skills inside out tonight as they tried to crawl out of their pretender hole.
You guys ripped Cinci's heart out tonight and destroyed their entire organization. Tomorrow the sharks will be circling the Bengals for another prime time beat down. The fans and maybe the team itself will turn on Dalton. The media is certainly going to brutalize him.The head coach probably lost his job tonight, even though he won't get a pink slip until the off season. On Thursday Night Football, the Cleveland Browns broke Cincinatti over its knee. Spine broken. Done. Finished. I do not think they will recover from this and will finish last in the AFC North. Season over. Team going to get blown up. Congratulations on the complete and long term annihilation of a rival organization,
Regardless of who the Bengals are or might have been, it's really the performance that matters. They're a talent stacked team and you gave them a straight up beat down in every phase of the game. A three and out defense, complimented by an effecient offense, great throws by Hoyer, and a swarming special teams.
To me you looked like a solid post season team.
Given the Steelers knack for losing to bad teams, I think the Browns take the North this year and become a very dangerous post season under dog very capable of ending the dream of more likely contenders.
Hopefully you don't come here first.
Hoyer looked very Brady-like tonight attacking the middle of the field.
Texans are a guaranteed win. Ryan Mallett is pure garbage.
If Cleveland is dumb enough to let Hoyer walk this year, a lot of teams are going to jump at him, and with good reason.
Anyway, awesome to see the Browns ascending.
Pats v Browns AFC Championship game. Be there.
Everyone that gets high on their horse before getting dominated by the Patriots just completely fall to pieces.
So we should thank you?
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