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  • Manzier ManzierM
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    ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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    This is the "I told ya so" thread, meant for all the neg heads and haters. It's more of a vent and release, and not directed at anyone in particular(but you all know who you are)

    And for me, It's NOT too early, because we have ALREADY exceeded almost all expectations for the season. I want more, but started the season looking for positive growth. I see that now and got my wish. So, anything extra is just a bonus(and Im looking for a BIG BONUS this year πŸ™‚ )

    For all the kneejerk idiots who started all the "I hate_________" threads, I think it's safe to say that.....

    - Joe Haden

    - Mitchell Schwartz

    - Carlos Dansby

    - Brian Hoyer

    - Buster Skrine

    - Donte Whitner

    - Mile Austin

    - Phil Taylor

    and Billy Cundiff .....all dont suck. Sheesh.

    For the ones who attacked Farmer and the draft, I think it's safe to say that......

    - Bitonio

    - West

    - Crowell

    - Gilbert

    and Kirksey are all playing well and contributing now. Best draft in decades. And we still have talent(in reserve) that we haven't even seen yet.

    For the ones that said we would only win 5 games or LESS........F off. You were wrong. πŸ™

    For the ones that said we could never make the playoffs. We are contending right now.

    For the ones that say "same ole Browns"......hows this???

    - 24 point 2nd half comeback in Pitts

    - Clutch last minute winning drive against NO

    - NFL record 2nd half comeback against Tenn

    - 12 yr home opener losing streak. Broken

    - Big Ben 18-1 against Browns. Now 18-2

    - Bengals 14 game home winning streak. Broken.

    - Browns 17 game Div/away losing streak. Broken

    - #1 second half team in NFL.

    - National TV on 3 days rest and we dominate.

    Yep. Same ole Browns alright.

    Ok. I feel MUCH better. It needed to be said. Blame me for jumping the gun, but again, we've already way exceeded the haters expectations and it's never too soon to point that out.

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      TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by
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      Can't disagree here with anything

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        thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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        This team has depth at nearly every position... credit Ray Farmer and his team

        This team is playing hard with a never quit attitude... credit Mike Pettine and the "play like a Brown" mentality

        This team is playing solid offense despite not having the best playmakers... credit Kyle Shanahan

        This team is getting better on defense each week... credit Mike Pettine, Jim O'neil, and the Defensive Staff

        This team has developed one of the best home field advantages in the NFL... credit the Ownership, Business Dev. Team, and of course... the Fans!!

        This team has bought in to the concepts of their coaching staff and continues to improve... credit the players, especially leaders like Whitner/Dansby/Thomas/Hoyer

        My only complaint this year was blowing the Jacksonville game... but it was a let down after crushing Pittsburgh, so I've let that one go... every team is entitled to one "stinker" each year, so that was ours...

        I have a lot of hope for this team going into the last 7 games... I believe with good reason...

        Go Browns!!!!

        #Justsayin'
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          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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          Agree,

          Why not add in Andrew Hawkins as a great FA pickup from a division rival who is currently ailing at the position.

          Also,

          UDFA K'Waun Williams, Taylor Gabriel

          All some huge contributors, all guys who Farmer did his homework on (and the coaches know how to use).

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            ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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            Yep. What a HUGE difference 1 year can make. Exactly one year ago today, we were 4-5 and on bye week, preparing to embark on a 7 game losing streak to finish the season.

            Hard to believe the changes:

            Banner and Lombardi were steering the ship(no comparison)

            Chud was getting ready to lose his team(no comparison again)

            Horton was mugging for the camera all proud of himself(ditto)

            Campbell was our starter and Weeden was #2(hahahahaha)

            Mcgahee(sic) was our RB( bbbwahahahahaha)

            Something tells me the last 7 games will go a little different this year. Call it a hunch.

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              Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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              Can't disagree with anything posted here. Certainly has been a whole lot more fun this season.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                To: thenew23: What position is LeBron going to play with that number? That is a DBs number, or a RB. It is not a WR/TE number.

                (and doesn't someone already have that number....as in Joe Haden?)

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                  To: thenew23: What position is LeBron going to play with that number? That is a DBs number, or a RB. It is not a WR/TE number.

                  (and doesn't someone already have that number....as in Joe Haden?)

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                  thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  To: thenew23: What position is LeBron going to play with that number? That is a DBs number, or a RB. It is not a WR/TE number.

                  (and doesn't someone already have that number....as in Joe Haden?)

                  He only goes in for the Hail Mary play. 6'8" with a 40" vertical is useful in that situation. But, he'll keep "Haden" on the back of the jersey. Nobody will notice...

                  #Justsayin'
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                  • ManzierM Manzier

                    Yep. What a HUGE difference 1 year can make. Exactly one year ago today, we were 4-5 and on bye week, preparing to embark on a 7 game losing streak to finish the season.

                    Hard to believe the changes:

                    Banner and Lombardi were steering the ship(no comparison)

                    Chud was getting ready to lose his team(no comparison again)

                    Horton was mugging for the camera all proud of himself(ditto)

                    Campbell was our starter and Weeden was #2(hahahahaha)

                    Mcgahee(sic) was our RB( bbbwahahahahaha)

                    Something tells me the last 7 games will go a little different this year. Call it a hunch.

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                    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                    @manzier said:

                    Yep. What a HUGE difference 1 year can make. Exactly one year ago today, we were 4-5 and on bye week, preparing to embark on a 7 game losing streak to finish the season.

                    Hard to believe the changes:

                    Banner and Lombardi were steering the ship(no comparison)

                    Chud was getting ready to lose his team(no comparison again)

                    Horton was mugging for the camera all proud of himself(ditto)

                    Campbell was our starter and Weeden was #2(hahahahaha)

                    Mcgahee(sic) was our RB( bbbwahahahahaha)

                    Something tells me the last 7 games will go a little different this year. Call it a hunch.

                    I always hated Ray Horton and Rob Ryan for being camera hogs.. it's interesting neither one has a HC gig yet!

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                    • ManzierM Manzier

                      Yep. What a HUGE difference 1 year can make. Exactly one year ago today, we were 4-5 and on bye week, preparing to embark on a 7 game losing streak to finish the season.

                      Hard to believe the changes:

                      Banner and Lombardi were steering the ship(no comparison)

                      Chud was getting ready to lose his team(no comparison again)

                      Horton was mugging for the camera all proud of himself(ditto)

                      Campbell was our starter and Weeden was #2(hahahahaha)

                      Mcgahee(sic) was our RB( bbbwahahahahaha)

                      Something tells me the last 7 games will go a little different this year. Call it a hunch.

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @manzier said:

                      Banner and Lombardi were steering the ship(no comparison)

                      A couple weeks ago... what was it Banner said we fucked up? ... and why do I care?

                      @thenew23 said:

                      He only goes in for the Hail Mary play. 6'8" with a 40" vertical is useful in that situation. But, he'll keep "Haden" on the back of the jersey. Nobody will notice...

                      Standard FA, rookie contract I presume?

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        put me down for questioning the schwartz suckage. but that would be the only negativity i felt about this team going into the season.

                        fried crow on a potato bun with mayo pleez.

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                          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                          What still gets me is how we pulled out a very solid receiving corp with what seemed like a desperate shotgun approach before the season.

                          Before the draft even ended we were hearing the doom and gloom about Gordon, Benjamin was a question mark coming off a major injury, and we cut every other wideout.

                          So this scattershot approach with a few free agents (most considered "has beens") and UDFAs, and wala, it freakin' worked!

                          That's probably my biggest positional surprise is those guys. That Hawkins has contributed more that l thought he would, Benjamin still has his quicks, and Austin has been more solid and more not injured than l thought he would be. And yes, l'm knocking on wood. And no, l don't mean my dick.

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                            This is the "I told ya so" thread, meant for all the neg heads and haters. It's more of a vent and release, and not directed at anyone in particular(but you all know who you are)

                            And for me, It's NOT too early, because we have ALREADY exceeded almost all expectations for the season. I want more, but started the season looking for positive growth. I see that now and got my wish. So, anything extra is just a bonus(and Im looking for a BIG BONUS this year πŸ™‚ )

                            For all the kneejerk idiots who started all the "I hate_________" threads, I think it's safe to say that.....

                            - Joe Haden

                            - Mitchell Schwartz

                            - Carlos Dansby

                            - Brian Hoyer

                            - Buster Skrine

                            - Donte Whitner

                            - Mile Austin

                            - Phil Taylor

                            and Billy Cundiff .....all dont suck. Sheesh.

                            For the ones who attacked Farmer and the draft, I think it's safe to say that......

                            - Bitonio

                            - West

                            - Crowell

                            - Gilbert

                            and Kirksey are all playing well and contributing now. Best draft in decades. And we still have talent(in reserve) that we haven't even seen yet.

                            For the ones that said we would only win 5 games or LESS........F off. You were wrong. πŸ™

                            For the ones that said we could never make the playoffs. We are contending right now.

                            For the ones that say "same ole Browns"......hows this???

                            - 24 point 2nd half comeback in Pitts

                            - Clutch last minute winning drive against NO

                            - NFL record 2nd half comeback against Tenn

                            - 12 yr home opener losing streak. Broken

                            - Big Ben 18-1 against Browns. Now 18-2

                            - Bengals 14 game home winning streak. Broken.

                            - Browns 17 game Div/away losing streak. Broken

                            - #1 second half team in NFL.

                            - National TV on 3 days rest and we dominate.

                            Yep. Same ole Browns alright.

                            Ok. I feel MUCH better. It needed to be said. Blame me for jumping the gun, but again, we've already way exceeded the haters expectations and it's never too soon to point that out.

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                            Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                            @manzier said:

                            This is the "I told ya so" thread, meant for all the neg heads and haters. It's more of a vent and release, and not directed at anyone in particular(but you all know who you are)

                            And for me, It's NOT too early, because we have ALREADY exceeded almost all expectations for the season. I want more, but started the season looking for positive growth. I see that now and got my wish. So, anything extra is just a bonus(and Im looking for a BIG BONUS this year πŸ™‚ )

                            For all the kneejerk idiots who started all the "I hate_________" threads, I think it's safe to say that.....

                            - Joe Haden

                            - Mitchell Schwartz

                            - Carlos Dansby

                            - Brian Hoyer

                            - Buster Skrine

                            - Donte Whitner

                            - Mile Austin

                            - Phil Taylor

                            and Billy Cundiff .....all dont suck. Sheesh.

                            For the ones who attacked Farmer and the draft, I think it's safe to say that......

                            - Bitonio

                            - West

                            - Crowell

                            - Gilbert

                            and Kirksey are all playing well and contributing now. Best draft in decades. And we still have talent(in reserve) that we haven't even seen yet.

                            For the ones that said we would only win 5 games or LESS........F off. You were wrong. πŸ™

                            For the ones that said we could never make the playoffs. We are contending right now.

                            For the ones that say "same ole Browns"......hows this???

                            - 24 point 2nd half comeback in Pitts

                            - Clutch last minute winning drive against NO

                            - NFL record 2nd half comeback against Tenn

                            - 12 yr home opener losing streak. Broken

                            - Big Ben 18-1 against Browns. Now 18-2

                            - Bengals 14 game home winning streak. Broken.

                            - Browns 17 game Div/away losing streak. Broken

                            - #1 second half team in NFL.

                            - National TV on 3 days rest and we dominate.

                            Yep. Same ole Browns alright.

                            Ok. I feel MUCH better. It needed to be said. Blame me for jumping the gun, but again, we've already way exceeded the haters expectations and it's never too soon to point that out.

                            @thenew23 said:

                            This team has depth at nearly every position... credit Ray Farmer and his team

                            This team is playing hard with a never quit attitude... credit Mike Pettine and the "play like a Brown" mentality

                            This team is playing solid offense despite not having the best playmakers... credit Kyle Shanahan

                            This team is getting better on defense each week... credit Mike Pettine, Jim O'neil, and the Defensive Staff

                            This team has developed one of the best home field advantages in the NFL... credit the Ownership, Business Dev. Team, and of course... the Fans!!

                            This team has bought in to the concepts of their coaching staff and continues to improve... credit the players, especially leaders like Whitner/Dansby/Thomas/Hoyer

                            My only complaint this year was blowing the Jacksonville game... but it was a let down after crushing Pittsburgh, so I've let that one go... every team is entitled to one "stinker" each year, so that was ours...

                            I have a lot of hope for this team going into the last 7 games... I believe with good reason...

                            Go Browns!!!!

                            Wonderful posts & kudos to both of you. We may or may not MAKE the playoffs this year, but we are surely in the conversation & who was thinking that before this season? We were told there would be a change in culture & there sure as hell has been! A very POSITIVE change to a WINNING CULTURE!

                            First Energy Stadium is now THE PLACE TO BE at game time & I'm not missing a bit of it!

                            Mike

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                              Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                              Why are you so quick to bash the people who said they sucked after a few performances when you're doing the same thing, but in reverse?

                              This is just another kneejerk post. No different.

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                                Why are you so quick to bash the people who said they sucked after a few performances when you're doing the same thing, but in reverse?

                                This is just another kneejerk post. No different.

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                                ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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                                @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                Why are you so quick to bash the people who said they sucked after a few performances when you're doing the same thing, but in reverse?

                                This is just another kneejerk post. No different.

                                I disagree,

                                1) I am not quick to bash anybody, which is part of my main point. Ive preached patience all along and have promoted a wait and see attitude. And I have never started a "bash" post.

                                2) A "Kneejerk" response would have happened a long time ago. I've waited till week 10 and have let things play out before drawing any conclusions or posting this. The "kneejerk" posts are the ones we've been getting all along.....since pre-season.....or after only a play...or a series....or a single game.....claiming the team, or a player, or a coach is the worst ever, all of a sudden sucks, etc etc etc blah blah blah....

                                3) This post is different. Very different. It's not a hate post or an attack post. Week in and week out we read the "kneejerk" posts because some player missed a tackle or had a bad game. Ive been drawn into a few of those slugfests, but usually to defend a player. Not to attack a guy because he had an off day. This post just re-enforces that those posts were unmerited so early.

                                4) What people am I bashing and where am I bashing them??? My very first sentence said this was just a "vent and release" and it's "making a point"(not bashing). After spending every day reading hate threads, it's refreshing to flip the table. In fact, my post is mostly praising the Browns AND those fans who had a little faith and patience in them. But, if you want to call it bashing, at least it's not kneejerk bashing. Personally, I consider it making a point, which is not basing(or hate).

                                So, not too sure why you feel so defensive about my post, unless you feel its directed to you or somehow reflects you ....

                                Hey, if the shoe fits, then wear it. And, if not, then why worry about it.

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                                  bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                  I like it, we need some positivity around here.

                                  2 weeks ago people were predicting we finish 5-11.

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                                    I like it, we need some positivity around here.

                                    2 weeks ago people were predicting we finish 5-11.

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                                    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                                    @bbedward said:

                                    I like it, we need some positivity around here.

                                    2 weeks ago people were predicting we finish 5-11.

                                    That's why I never make W/L predictions. This is a very young Team with some savvy veteran players & the record may not tell the whole story. What I see is a Team that plays hard & plays to win. Sometimes that leads to wins & sometimes to losses, but that's how our young guys BECOME savvy veterans & wins come on a regular basis. Anyone who can't see the positives FAR outweighing the negatives here must be blind.

                                    OUR Cleveland Browns are certainly one of the best young Teams in the NFL.

                                    Mike

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                                      The good play on the field spills over into the stands too. it's been allot of fun this year attending the games. Generally by this time of year, I'm selling some of the tickets, and I've left early to beat the traffic, but not this year.

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                                        @manzier said:

                                        This is the "I told ya so" thread, meant for all the neg heads and haters. It's more of a vent and release, and not directed at anyone in particular(but you all know who you are)

                                        And for me, It's NOT too early, because we have ALREADY exceeded almost all expectations for the season. I want more, but started the season looking for positive growth. I see that now and got my wish. So, anything extra is just a bonus(and Im looking for a BIG BONUS this year πŸ™‚ )

                                        For all the kneejerk idiots who started all the "I hate_________" threads, I think it's safe to say that.....

                                        - Joe Haden

                                        - Mitchell Schwartz

                                        - Carlos Dansby

                                        - Brian Hoyer

                                        - Buster Skrine

                                        - Donte Whitner

                                        - Mile Austin

                                        - Phil Taylor

                                        and Billy Cundiff .....all dont suck. Sheesh.

                                        For the ones who attacked Farmer and the draft, I think it's safe to say that......

                                        - Bitonio

                                        - West

                                        - Crowell

                                        - Gilbert

                                        and Kirksey are all playing well and contributing now. Best draft in decades. And we still have talent(in reserve) that we haven't even seen yet.

                                        For the ones that said we would only win 5 games or LESS........F off. You were wrong. πŸ™

                                        For the ones that said we could never make the playoffs. We are contending right now.

                                        For the ones that say "same ole Browns"......hows this???

                                        - 24 point 2nd half comeback in Pitts

                                        - Clutch last minute winning drive against NO

                                        - NFL record 2nd half comeback against Tenn

                                        - 12 yr home opener losing streak. Broken

                                        - Big Ben 18-1 against Browns. Now 18-2

                                        - Bengals 14 game home winning streak. Broken.

                                        - Browns 17 game Div/away losing streak. Broken

                                        - #1 second half team in NFL.

                                        - National TV on 3 days rest and we dominate.

                                        Yep. Same ole Browns alright.

                                        Ok. I feel MUCH better. It needed to be said. Blame me for jumping the gun, but again, we've already way exceeded the haters expectations and it's never too soon to point that out.

                                        @thenew23 said:

                                        This team has depth at nearly every position... credit Ray Farmer and his team

                                        This team is playing hard with a never quit attitude... credit Mike Pettine and the "play like a Brown" mentality

                                        This team is playing solid offense despite not having the best playmakers... credit Kyle Shanahan

                                        This team is getting better on defense each week... credit Mike Pettine, Jim O'neil, and the Defensive Staff

                                        This team has developed one of the best home field advantages in the NFL... credit the Ownership, Business Dev. Team, and of course... the Fans!!

                                        This team has bought in to the concepts of their coaching staff and continues to improve... credit the players, especially leaders like Whitner/Dansby/Thomas/Hoyer

                                        My only complaint this year was blowing the Jacksonville game... but it was a let down after crushing Pittsburgh, so I've let that one go... every team is entitled to one "stinker" each year, so that was ours...

                                        I have a lot of hope for this team going into the last 7 games... I believe with good reason...

                                        Go Browns!!!!

                                        Wonderful posts & kudos to both of you. We may or may not MAKE the playoffs this year, but we are surely in the conversation & who was thinking that before this season? We were told there would be a change in culture & there sure as hell has been! A very POSITIVE change to a WINNING CULTURE!

                                        First Energy Stadium is now THE PLACE TO BE at game time & I'm not missing a bit of it!

                                        Mike

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                                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                        @canton-mike said:

                                        Wonderful posts & kudos to both of you. We may or may not MAKE the playoffs this year, but we are surely in the conversation & who was thinking that before this season? We were told there would be a change in culture & there sure as hell has been! A very POSITIVE change to a WINNING CULTURE!

                                        First Energy Stadium is now THE PLACE TO BE at game time & I'm not missing a bit of it!

                                        Mike

                                        Exactly- we're always going to have the negative Nancys around- that won't be happy short of the Browns blowing someone out in the Super Bowl 35-0.

                                        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                        Why are you so quick to bash the people who said they sucked after a few performances when you're doing the same thing, but in reverse?

                                        This is just another kneejerk post. No different.

                                        Because it's getting to be time for the bashers to start eating some serious crow. I won't call them out YET. Two wins in the next games against the Texans and Falcons, I might. I haven't forgotten the heat I took preseason merely suggesting that there are instances of quarterbacks getting a chance and excelling in the NFL on the high side of 28, when they've done nada previously.

                                        Yeah- we heard the Haden sucks, Pettine sucks, Farmer sucks, Gilbert sucks, Hoyer is a bum posts. So where are the doom and gloom guys now? Gee, I've been on this board since the beginning- and it will only take one loss fro them to come howling back with a vengeance.

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                                          It was getting ridiculous - and very aggravating, that so many

                                          negative folks were bashing and hating on one player or another,

                                          or the coach, or the GM, on and on and on and on.

                                          Excellent positive stuff about this team now, means that the haters should

                                          be held accountable. They were obviously just wrong, and we ended up

                                          reading again and again and again and again about the hate for one player or another.

                                          These Browns play as a TEAM. It's a TEAM game. So now, they have some

                                          great success going for them, and us. And the coaches have been coaching them up,

                                          and these Browns have bought into the new systems, and getting it down. I mean,

                                          isn't it AWESOME that this team had new coaches, new systems, and major injuries to starters...

                                          and they are now in FIRST PLACE, so far, in the division?

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