2015 Draft

jrb12711

It's gotta be focused on the front 7 defensively. I would be completely happy if they chose from the BPA between DE, OLB, and DT in no particular order with both first round picks. Mingo played better Thursday but he's shown nothing more than being a situational player in this league. Rubin can easily be gone next year and this has proven to be our weakest link this season. Lock up Gipson and get two defensive playmakers, sounds like a damn good plan to me.

The Italian DawgPound

Moreover, we need to keep Mack at Center. He wanted to leave last summer, didn't he?

Tour2ma

Uber-pointless thread...

$ on the books is meaningless without noting the cap. Plus we have a couple FA's to consider...

Draft this, that or the other? But where? List all the blue chippers you want, but we aren't headed towards a top 20 at the moment.

Manzier

Just as an fyi, If the draft was today, we'd be picking at 15(Buff) & 23(Browns)...

And Im still expecting Buff to slide and finish close to .500. So, by the time it's all said and done, Ill be planning on a late 20's pick and a mid teens pick

gftChris

@manzier said:

Just as an fyi, If the draft was today, we'd be picking at 15(Buff) & 23(Browns)...

And Im still expecting Buff to slide and finish close to .500. So, by the time it's all said and done, Ill be planning on a late 20's pick and a mid teens pick

If they finish at .500, they'll be around 15th anyway.

LondonBrown

Be it FA or draft we need someone who starts straight away and gets to the opposition QB

gftChris

I'm liking Justin Houstin, if he can replicate his form up here.

LondonBrown

Any chance we would be in for Suh if Lions decide not to re-sign him?

gftChris

@londonbrown said:
Any chance we would be in for Suh if Lions decide not to re-sign him?

Doesn't seem like the Pettine/Farmer type of player.

Manzier

@londonbrown said:
Be it FA or draft we need someone who starts straight away and gets to the opposition QB

Thats where Im at. If we go DL, then it better be early and a big time player. With the depth we currently have on the line, Im thinking DL in the mid to later rounds will just be more of the same. Solid(good) players, but no dominant ones.

That will be the hard part for Farmer this next off season and draft. Last years team was riddled with sub par players, so it wasn't too hard to upgrade at a lot of positions.

This year, however, the talent is deeper. So it will take BETTER talent to upgrade. I wouldn't be surprised to see Farmer go for a proven FA for DL, just to get immediate help there.

The Gipper

@walterwhite said:

I want this in a Browns uniform:

Except that the runner had already made like a 10 yard gain on the play. It would have been more impressive if made at the line of scrimmage.

gftChris

@the-gipper said:
Except that the runner had already made like a 10 yard gain on the play. It would have been more impressive if made at the line of scrimmage.

I was thinking the same thing. D'Qwell Jackson with some Brock Lesnar tackling...

miktoxic

sammy watkins.

will he be available?

RoyceRolls

@londonbrown said:
Any chance we would be in for Suh if Lions decide not to re-sign him?

If the Lions don't resign him, it will be because he's asking for far too much money.

Suh is good, but overpaying for players never works out.

Clevfan4life

@thaak said:

BPA.

Otherwise I'd prioritize OLB, DL, ILB, TE, ROG in that order

Our D-Line was supposed to be our strength, and its ended up being our weakness and our Outside Linebackers seem to have no concept of edge containment.

I could not disagree more on your assessment of our OLB'ers edge containment. Well at least not from Sheard and Kruger. At the beginning of the season those guys setup military checkpoints they were bossing the edge so hard. Seriously everything ran inside. EVERYTHING. About 6 games in when our staff realized that, for whatever reason ( my suspicion is our ILB'ers suck), we couldn't stop the run and asked the OLB'ers to pinch in and help. Well when that happens eventually someone's gonna bounce it. Not that I wouldn't mind seeing another good OLB'er come to Cleveland...like maybe getting Houston in FA, but to prioritize it in the draft is absurd unless there's another Clowney or Mack in the draft. .

PoeticG

I'd say trade down, gather even more picks and then take the PBA all the way through. We are a very good young team, we need to keep building, that's what's going to make us great.

Clevfan4life

@the-gipper said:
Except that the runner had already made like a 10 yard gain on the play. It would have been more impressive if made at the line of scrimmage.

His depth on that play was part of the call, that's where he was supposed to be you can tell. As form as that tackle was it's not his best hit, it just looked flashy. He makes "plenty" of tackles at the line of scrimmage or behind. He's a pure form tackler. He's got better fundamentals right now than a lot of NFL players, including some on the Browns. He's a beast. Yes I would love to see him in a Browns Uni. My dream draft would be for him and Bosa to drop to the mid 1st round where it's likely our two picks will be....unfortunately we may have other higher priorities than Bosa but I really do hope we take a hard look at getting a stud ILB'er in the draft. If it's Perryman than I'm fine with that. Dude runs a high 4.4 I think, and is built like a brick shithouse.

Clevfan4life

They actually had him playing a lot of 4-3 OLB and he still looked pretty good. Probably a guy we could play at any of the LB'er spots.

WalterWhite

@poeticg said:
I'd say trade down, gather even more picks and then take the PBA all the way through. We are a very good young team, we need to keep building, that's what's going to make us great.

No more trading down. I'm sick of passing on the Watt's, Mack's, Jones, Watkins, Mathews, for the Gilberts, Taylors, and Weedens of the world

Tour2ma

@manzier said:

Just as an fyi, If the draft was today, we'd be picking at 15(Buff) & 23(Browns)...

And Im still expecting Buff to slide and finish close to .500. So, by the time it's all said and done, Ill be planning on a late 20's pick and a mid teens pick

I can see why you might think that Buff will slide. Stand at 5-4 now with these games remaining...

11 Nov 13 8:25PMEST , AT Dolphins

12 Nov 23 1:00PMEST * Jets

13 Nov 30 1:00PMEST * Browns

14 Dec 7 4:05PMEST * AT Broncos

15 Dec 14 1:00PMEST ) Packers

16 Dec 21 4:25PMEST * AT Raiders

17 Dec 28 1:00PMEST * AT Patriots

Should beat Jets and Raiders. Pats might not have anything at stake in season finale. So only need one win out of the Fins, us, DNV and GB to finish 2 games over...

This Sunday at MIA should be interesting...