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Say Congress.....got a minute?

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  • htownbrown htownbrownH Reacting Well Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/10/obama-s-isis-war-is-illegal.html

    β€œIt is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      Excellent point.

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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        Of course I would support those presidential powers if and when there is a president worthy of them.

        And I don't discount the possibility that Obama's advisers might prompt him to do the right thing at some point and then I would not want Congress to slow or halt that decision whatever it may be.

        As much as I dislike the Obama administration I also feel that the opposition does take the knee-jerk reaction too far sometimes.

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          mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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          I have grown skeptical of having a president worthy of those powers. And there is a lot of wisdom in giving Congress and not the executive branch war making powers.

          This editorial by Rand Paul is not knee jerk in the least. And where Obama or people in his administration have chosen to insert themselves, especially in the middle east, the results have been disasterous.

          Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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          • mohicanM mohican

            I have grown skeptical of having a president worthy of those powers. And there is a lot of wisdom in giving Congress and not the executive branch war making powers.

            This editorial by Rand Paul is not knee jerk in the least. And where Obama or people in his administration have chosen to insert themselves, especially in the middle east, the results have been disasterous.

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @mohican said:

            I have grown skeptical of having a president worthy of those powers. And there is a lot of wisdom in giving Congress and not the executive branch war making powers.

            This editorial by Rand Paul is not knee jerk in the least. And where Obama or people in his administration have chosen to insert themselves, especially in the middle east, the results have been disasterous.

            If you give congress the powers, nothing will get done. Even on something like this where, judging by the comments from the conservative types where, there was widespread support, nothing has been agreed.

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              mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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              The constitution (I know, who follows it) very clearly gives war making power to Congress - and not the President. And the "get's stuff done" or "doesn't get stuff done" is a non sequitor to me.

              Stuff I want to see done - Repeal of ACA

              Repeal of 16th and 17th amendments

              Repeal act that set House representation at 435 members, no matter the size of the population.

              i could go on...

              Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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              • mohicanM mohican

                The constitution (I know, who follows it) very clearly gives war making power to Congress - and not the President. And the "get's stuff done" or "doesn't get stuff done" is a non sequitor to me.

                Stuff I want to see done - Repeal of ACA

                Repeal of 16th and 17th amendments

                Repeal act that set House representation at 435 members, no matter the size of the population.

                i could go on...

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                B blowe wrote on last edited by
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                @mohican said:

                The constitution (I know, who follows it) very clearly gives war making power to Congress - and not the President. And the "get's stuff done" or "doesn't get stuff done" is a non sequitor to me.

                Stuff I want to see done - Repeal of ACA

                Repeal of 16th and 17th amendments

                Repeal act that set House representation at 435 members, no matter the size of the population.

                i could go on...

                Agreed. 2 more words for ya:

                TERM. LIMITS.

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                  @mohican said:

                  I have grown skeptical of having a president worthy of those powers. And there is a lot of wisdom in giving Congress and not the executive branch war making powers.

                  This editorial by Rand Paul is not knee jerk in the least. And where Obama or people in his administration have chosen to insert themselves, especially in the middle east, the results have been disasterous.

                  If you give congress the powers, nothing will get done. Even on something like this where, judging by the comments from the conservative types where, there was widespread support, nothing has been agreed.

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                  WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                  @gftchris said:

                  If you give congress the powers, nothing will get done. Even on something like this where, judging by the comments from the conservative types where, there was widespread support, nothing has been agreed.

                  Dude, your government is ran by a bunch of fuckin blokes who still wear powered wigs and an 89 year old woman in a fucking flower hat.

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                    @gftchris said:

                    If you give congress the powers, nothing will get done. Even on something like this where, judging by the comments from the conservative types where, there was widespread support, nothing has been agreed.

                    Dude, your government is ran by a bunch of fuckin blokes who still wear powered wigs and an 89 year old woman in a fucking flower hat.

                    101652.jpg

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    @walterwhite said:

                    Dude, your government is ran by a bunch of fuckin blokes who still wear powered wigs and an 89 year old woman in a fucking flower hat.

                    101652.jpg

                    Well, 1 - they don't wear wigs; 2 - the queen has no input.

                    And still, they get a lot more done than the US government.

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                      @walterwhite said:

                      Dude, your government is ran by a bunch of fuckin blokes who still wear powered wigs and an 89 year old woman in a fucking flower hat.

                      101652.jpg

                      Well, 1 - they don't wear wigs; 2 - the queen has no input.

                      And still, they get a lot more done than the US government.

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      @gftchris said:

                      Well, 1 - they don't wear wigs; 2 - the queen has no input.

                      And still, they get a lot more done than the US government.

                      Thats debatable. But they should since your country is tiny in comparison.

                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                        @gftchris said:

                        Well, 1 - they don't wear wigs; 2 - the queen has no input.

                        And still, they get a lot more done than the US government.

                        Thats debatable. But they should since your country is tiny in comparison.

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                        Thats debatable. But they should since your country is tiny in comparison.

                        It is indeed. But then we do have to deal with the EU.

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                          @gftchris said:

                          If you give congress the powers, nothing will get done. Even on something like this where, judging by the comments from the conservative types where, there was widespread support, nothing has been agreed.

                          Dude, your government is ran by a bunch of fuckin blokes who still wear powered wigs and an 89 year old woman in a fucking flower hat.

                          101652.jpg

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                          OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                          @walterwhite said:

                          Dude, your government is ran by a bunch of fuckin blokes who still wear powered wigs and an 89 year old woman in a fucking flower hat.

                          101652.jpg

                          Powered wigs... you mean something like this? That'd be pretty cool...

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                            @walterwhite said:

                            Dude, your government is ran by a bunch of fuckin blokes who still wear powered wigs and an 89 year old woman in a fucking flower hat.

                            101652.jpg

                            Well, 1 - they don't wear wigs; 2 - the queen has no input.

                            And still, they get a lot more done than the US government.

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                            WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                            @gftchris said:

                            And still, they get a lot more done than the US government.

                            Then why is over 1/4 of London in complete poverty?

                            http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-24517391

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