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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    I would offer him back up money. The guy is not a starter. There is a reason he has been a back up and cut from teams his whole career.

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    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I would offer him back up money. The guy is not a starter. There is a reason he has been a back up and cut from teams his whole career.

    yup.. 9-4 and he's not a starter... your dumb.

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      @diehardbrownsfan said:

      I would offer him back up money. The guy is not a starter. There is a reason he has been a back up and cut from teams his whole career.

      yup.. 9-4 and he's not a starter... your dumb.

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      @nickers said:

      yup.. 9-4 and he's not a starter... your dumb.

      I always love when people do something like this.

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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        Career backup, mark my words. Time for some JFF and quit this experiment which is failing.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

          Career backup, mark my words. Time for some JFF and quit this experiment which is failing.

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          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          Career backup, mark my words. Time for some JFF and quit this experiment which is failing.

          You have to be trolling. This experiment has produced the best season for this team in 7 years.

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          • tiamat63T tiamat63

            @diehardbrownsfan said:

            Career backup, mark my words. Time for some JFF and quit this experiment which is failing.

            You have to be trolling. This experiment has produced the best season for this team in 7 years.

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            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            @tiamat63 said:

            You have to be trolling. This experiment has produced the best season for this team in 7 years.

            6 wins? You're nuts. Not a troll been here for a long time.

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            • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

              @tiamat63 said:

              You have to be trolling. This experiment has produced the best season for this team in 7 years.

              6 wins? You're nuts. Not a troll been here for a long time.

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              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              6 wins? You're nuts. Not a troll been here for a long time.

              And with the avatar change I'll just go ahead and say your trolling is actually quite effective.

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                Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                He's smart, a good leader, and inaccurate. All depends upon what we think we have in Manziel.

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                  P PurplePantyWaste wrote on last edited by
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                  He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    6 wins? You're nuts. Not a troll been here for a long time.

                    And with the avatar change I'll just go ahead and say your trolling is actually quite effective.

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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @tiamat63 said:

                    And with the avatar change I'll just go ahead and say your trolling is actually quite effective.

                    No, I just like to fuck with idiots like you.

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                    • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                      @tiamat63 said:

                      And with the avatar change I'll just go ahead and say your trolling is actually quite effective.

                      No, I just like to fuck with idiots like you.

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                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                      No, I just like to fuck with idiots like you.

                      I don't really swing like that. But hey, I support your choice. I"m sure your parents don't understand, but give it time... maybe they will.

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                      • Z Zombo

                        He's smart, a good leader, and inaccurate. All depends upon what we think we have in Manziel.

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        Zombo said:

                        He's smart, a good leader, and inaccurate when unable to set and stride. All depends upon what we think we have in Manziel.

                        Amended... but might be even simpler to say "under duress".

                        afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                        He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

                        If you're going to guess, just stop...

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                          He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

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                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                          afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                          He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

                          As tour said, you're guessing. #1 in the NFL completion % throws over 15 yd going into today - he isn't afraid to go down the field.

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                            afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                            He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

                            As tour said, you're guessing. #1 in the NFL completion % throws over 15 yd going into today - he isn't afraid to go down the field.

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                            P PurplePantyWaste wrote on last edited by
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                            @bbedward said:

                            As tour said, you're guessing. #1 in the NFL completion % throws over 15 yd going into today - he isn't afraid to go down the field.

                            Not necessarily downfield as much certain coverages and responding to certain pressures

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                              He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

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                              IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                              afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                              He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

                              A ha!!! There's a jab. Good for you.

                              But l think you're right. Not so much afraid, but Hoyer always seems to err on the side of the non-interception throw. Which still counts as an incompletion.

                              Good call, but this was a learning curve game for us.

                              We are so gonna kick your ass week 17.

                              Circling it and putting hearts next to the date on my calendar.

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                                @bbedward said:

                                As tour said, you're guessing. #1 in the NFL completion % throws over 15 yd going into today - he isn't afraid to go down the field.

                                Not necessarily downfield as much certain coverages and responding to certain pressures

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                                bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                                afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                                Not necessarily downfield as much certain coverages and responding to certain pressures

                                Maybe the response to certain pressure (JJ Watt) and coverages, but he isn't afraid.

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                                  afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                                  He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

                                  A ha!!! There's a jab. Good for you.

                                  But l think you're right. Not so much afraid, but Hoyer always seems to err on the side of the non-interception throw. Which still counts as an incompletion.

                                  Good call, but this was a learning curve game for us.

                                  We are so gonna kick your ass week 17.

                                  Circling it and putting hearts next to the date on my calendar.

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                                  P PurplePantyWaste wrote on last edited by
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                                  @ibleedbrown said:

                                  A ha!!! There's a jab. Good for you.

                                  But l think you're right. Not so much afraid, but Hoyer always seems to err on the side of the non-interception throw. Which still counts as an incompletion.

                                  Good call, but this was a learning curve game for us.

                                  We are so gonna kick your ass week 17.

                                  Circling it and putting hearts next to the date on my calendar.

                                  Yeah, not afraid just overly cautious.

                                  You very well might depending upon the impact of Gordon returning.

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                                    afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                                    Not necessarily downfield as much certain coverages and responding to certain pressures

                                    Maybe the response to certain pressure (JJ Watt) and coverages, but he isn't afraid.

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                                    @bbedward said:

                                    Maybe the response to certain pressure (JJ Watt) and coverages, but he isn't afraid.

                                    Again, afraid probably wasn't the best word, rather over cautious or hesitant

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                                      afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                                      He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

                                      As tour said, you're guessing. #1 in the NFL completion % throws over 15 yd going into today - he isn't afraid to go down the field.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      @bbedward said:

                                      As tour said, you're guessing. #1 in the NFL completion % throws over 15 yd going into today - he isn't afraid to go down the field.

                                      And guessing badly... pertinent info I failed to mention earlier.

                                      What's paradoxical is that Hoyer will stand in and deliver the ball on target in the face of monster shots like the last he took from Cushing, but shy from pressure still relatively contained by his line...

                                      It's perplexing...

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                                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                        As for coverages...

                                        I don't know, but then neither do you as you get to see coverages on maybe 1 play in 10 in any broadcast. So you are guessing...

                                        Pressure? Yes... as I just posted the threat of pressure up the middle in his face gets to BH. If you kill his stride, his accuracy plummets.

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                                          Zombo said:

                                          He's smart, a good leader, and inaccurate when unable to set and stride. All depends upon what we think we have in Manziel.

                                          Amended... but might be even simpler to say "under duress".

                                          afcnorthravensfan509 said:

                                          He seems to play afraid...his low turnover count sort of indicates he's afraid of making certain throws because he's afraid of throwing a pick. Probably because he doesn't have elite accuracy.

                                          If you're going to guess, just stop...

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                                          P PurplePantyWaste wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Amended... but might be even simpler to say "under duress".

                                          If you're going to guess, just stop...

                                          Not a guess...he isn't the most accurate qb. He's inconsistent with ball placement. Certain coverages he shys away from. Under pressure he's as likely to throw off target as on target, sometimes with not even real pressure just sort of panicky

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