***Official Browns Vs. Texans Game Day Thread***
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Dunce of the week? Says the guy who said Foster was gonna play, when in fact he had been ruled completely out.
You are right though Haden's INT was such a game changing play, and Kruger is such a force on defense they played great today.
Also are you saying Hoyer didn't miss some easy throws? Lol c'mon man!
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Fuck any Cleveland browns fan right straight in the mouth with a syphilis dick that puts this loss on Hoyer. Dude took two shots from Cushing that I'm convinced take any other qb in the NFL save maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, out of the game. Not only that, he comes back SLINGING. Dude is a WARRIOR. Yeah he missed a couple plays that also looked like him and his receivers weren't on the same page. This game is Shanny's fault more than anyone else's. Watt obviously made some plays today but he didn't tee off on us like I was afraid he would. Clowney really didn't have too many snaps either so he wasn't much of a factor.
Defensively what can you say? I'm over this 3-4. The 3-4's main strength is in stopping the run...well, how many games in are we? Enough of this. You all see what Mingo was able to do when he came in for Sheard? It's cause he had his hand in the dirt. Go to a 4-3 and make him the OLB and 3rd down DE or otherwise long distance passing situations. Kruger should never stand up again....NOT ONE SINGLE FUCKING SNAP should he ever stand ever again. We're nerfing his natural abilities while paying him 8m. I'm over it.
We need a complete overhaul of our ILB'ers at the end of the season. This is horseshit. How does this cunt, who's name I can't even remember right now...step in for Foster and go for 150? Are you fucking kidding me? Part of this is scheme, no question about it. It's either a shitty run defense scheme or our personnel aren't a good fit for it. But something has to be completely redone after this season. Shurm's 4-3 was better than this. Weren't we 9th overall or something last time we ran the 4-3? Just go back to it this ain't workin. Not this year obviously but for next year it's gotta change.
Fuck any Cleveland browns fan right straight in the mouth with a syphilis dick that puts this loss on Hoyer. Dude took two shots from Cushing that I'm convinced take any other qb in the NFL save maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, out of the game. Not only that, he comes back SLINGING. Dude is a WARRIOR. Yeah he missed a couple plays that also looked like him and his receivers weren't on the same page. This game is Shanny's fault more than anyone else's. Watt obviously made some plays today but he didn't tee off on us like I was afraid he would. Clowney really didn't have too many snaps either so he wasn't much of a factor.
Defensively what can you say? I'm over this 3-4. The 3-4's main strength is in stopping the run...well, how many games in are we? Enough of this. You all see what Mingo was able to do when he came in for Sheard? It's cause he had his hand in the dirt. Go to a 4-3 and make him the OLB and 3rd down DE or otherwise long distance passing situations. Kruger should never stand up again....NOT ONE SINGLE FUCKING SNAP should he ever stand ever again. We're nerfing his natural abilities while paying him 8m. I'm over it.
We need a complete overhaul of our ILB'ers at the end of the season. This is horseshit. How does this cunt, who's name I can't even remember right now...step in for Foster and go for 150? Are you fucking kidding me? Part of this is scheme, no question about it. It's either a shitty run defense scheme or our personnel aren't a good fit for it. But something has to be completely redone after this season. Shurm's 4-3 was better than this. Weren't we 9th overall or something last time we ran the 4-3? Just go back to it this ain't workin. Not this year obviously but for next year it's gotta change.
I'm reading this thread and getting ready to verbally punch somebody and read this.
Back off my thunder. Fuck you.
Goddamit.
You're awesome.
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Who said the team that runs better wins?
Our run D got embarassed, Blue nearly had a 100yd first half.
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Who said the team that runs better wins?
Our run D got embarassed, Blue nearly had a 100yd first half.
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Dunce of the week? Says the guy who said Foster was gonna play, when in fact he had been ruled completely out.
You are right though Haden's INT was such a game changing play, and Kruger is such a force on defense they played great today.
Also are you saying Hoyer didn't miss some easy throws? Lol c'mon man!
Dunce of the week? Says the guy who said Foster was gonna play, when in fact he had been ruled completely out.
Yup... you are the Dunce of the Week.
Why?
Because I have your quotes and you only have me relying on the Official NFL Injury report.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
You'd be a really ignorant football fan to put this loss on one player. The Browns laid one big pile of shit as a group. We all knew there would be a few more losses, but unlike other teams we're getting a HUGE piece back late in the season. Monday is time to watch film and put it in the past. That's what Denver will do, that's what all good teams do. In a way I'm glad they got all the crap out in one game (hopefully)
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You'd be a really ignorant football fan to put this loss on one player. The Browns laid one big pile of shit as a group. We all knew there would be a few more losses, but unlike other teams we're getting a HUGE piece back late in the season. Monday is time to watch film and put it in the past. That's what Denver will do, that's what all good teams do. In a way I'm glad they got all the crap out in one game (hopefully)
You'd be a really ignorant football fan to put this loss on one player. The Browns laid one big pile of shit as a group. We all knew there would be a few more losses, but unlike other teams we're getting a HUGE piece back late in the season. Monday is time to watch film and put it in the past. That's what Denver will do, that's what all good teams do. In a way I'm glad they got all the crap out in one game (hopefully)
Just wanna amen that. Well said. How we respond next week is it. Totally it.
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Dunce of the week? Says the guy who said Foster was gonna play, when in fact he had been ruled completely out.
Yup... you are the Dunce of the Week.
Why?
Because I have your quotes and you only have me relying on the Official NFL Injury report.
Yup... you are the Dunce of the Week.
Why?
Because I have your quotes and you only have me relying on the Official NFL Injury report.
Nothing is wrong with my quotes though, what you said was factually wrong, what I said was my opinion on the Browns, nothing wrong with an opinion!
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Nothing is wrong with my quotes though, what you said was factually wrong, what I said was my opinion on the Browns, nothing wrong with an opinion!
Stupid O'Brien... expecting Foster to play at mid-week, but be a gameday decision.
Stupid Texans for officially listing Foster as Questionable on Friday.
Stupid NFL for believing the Texans and publishing their listing...
Stupid facts...
On the other hand the following are apparently smart... be they facts or opinions...
"Haden did nothing."
"(Pressure never affects accuracy.)"
"(A 2nd Qtr turnover determined the outcome of the game.)"
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Anyone who blames this loss on Hoyer is an idiot who did not watch the game OR knows NOTHING about football. If you want to blame Hoyer then you should never speak on this board again because you are an idiot.
It was a bad loss and there was plenty of blame to spread around.
You can either suck it up and do better, or fold and accept mediocrity. Lets see what they do before we start lighting the torches.
Bad game, everyone has them. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
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Anyone who blames this loss on Hoyer is an idiot who did not watch the game OR knows NOTHING about football. If you want to blame Hoyer then you should never speak on this board again because you are an idiot.
It was a bad loss and there was plenty of blame to spread around.
You can either suck it up and do better, or fold and accept mediocrity. Lets see what they do before we start lighting the torches.
Bad game, everyone has them. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
Anyone who blames this loss on Hoyer is an idiot who did not watch the game OR knows NOTHING about football. If you want to blame Hoyer then you should never speak on this board again because you are an idiot.
It was a bad loss and there was plenty of blame to spread around.
You can either suck it up and do better, or fold and accept mediocrity. Lets see what they do before we start lighting the torches.
Bad game, everyone has them. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
Amen, but what's up with the funky cursive? Giving me 2nd grade nightmares.
The reaction to this game is the ticket. I like our chances, and it's not predicated on who is coming on. It's a football mentality, from the top down, and l like our chances.
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Nothing is wrong with my quotes though, what you said was factually wrong, what I said was my opinion on the Browns, nothing wrong with an opinion!
Stupid O'Brien... expecting Foster to play at mid-week, but be a gameday decision.
Stupid Texans for officially listing Foster as Questionable on Friday.
Stupid NFL for believing the Texans and publishing their listing...
Stupid facts...
On the other hand the following are apparently smart... be they facts or opinions...
"Haden did nothing."
"(Pressure never affects accuracy.)"
"(A 2nd Qtr turnover determined the outcome of the game.)"
Stupid O'Brien... expecting Foster to play at mid-week, but be a gameday decision.
Stupid Texans for officially listing Foster as Questionable on Friday.
Stupid NFL for believing the Texans and publishing their listing...
Stupid facts...
ESPN said Foster wasn't gonna play yesterday! lol
On the other hand the following are apparently smart... be they facts or opinions...
"Haden did nothing." Haden had no impact on the game, the INT only stalled HOU to take the lead later in the half
"(Pressure never affects accuracy.)" He was inaccurate even with not much pressure
"(A 2nd Qtr turnover determined the outcome of the game.)" Well it was a 10-14 point swing and since we only scored 7 the whole game. yeah it determined the game.
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You'd be a really ignorant football fan to put this loss on one player. The Browns laid one big pile of shit as a group. We all knew there would be a few more losses, but unlike other teams we're getting a HUGE piece back late in the season. Monday is time to watch film and put it in the past. That's what Denver will do, that's what all good teams do. In a way I'm glad they got all the crap out in one game (hopefully)
You'd be a really ignorant football fan to put this loss on one player. The Browns laid one big pile of shit as a group. We all knew there would be a few more losses, but unlike other teams we're getting a HUGE piece back late in the season. Monday is time to watch film and put it in the past. That's what Denver will do, that's what all good teams do. In a way I'm glad they got all the crap out in one game (hopefully)
Sums it up very well. There wasn't one facet of this game where we did well beyond a play or two. Overall pathetic play. I do not believe I saw us even hurry Mallet one time. Giving the benefit of the doubt I left my seat to piss twice LOL perhaps it happened then?
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I think a lot of you are missing a key point. Yes, the team didn't play very good today and to blame it all on Hoyer is not right. But guess what, an average NFL team is going to play below average quite a bit. Unless you are an elite team, you are going to have bad games. As solidly as Hoyer has performed this year, when the team plays bad he has no chance of bringing his team to victory. When everybody plays good like last week, Hoyer has less pressure and can make the right throws when he needs to. That is what you get with Hoyer. I think Johnny can win a few games by himself when the rest of the team is not playing well. If the line isn't blocking, maybe he gets away from pressure and gets first downs. If the running game isn't going, Johnny can be a running game by himself. If Hoyer isn't throwing accurate passes the game if over. If Johnny isn't throwing accurate passes (which I have seen maybe once) he can use his legs to get positive yards.
This isn't a knock on Hoyer. When we lose a game like this a lot of the blame should go on other players. But completing less than 50% of his passes isn't going to stop. He did it in college and he continues to do time after time. I can't argue with the record and if the team plays good 10+ games a year and plays good in the playoffs he will be here a long time. But something has to give with these periods of below average play from the team and from Hoyer.
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Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 2h2 hours ago
Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabot#Browns Desmond Bryant: "We may have been sitting back a little bit, kind of catching more than we were delivering.''#Browns Desmond Bryant: "We may have been sitting back a little bit, kind of catching more than we were delivering.''
I said something like this in the Tavern today.......... I said that "our defense is reacting and not attacking". I thought that the Texans did a great job with their game plan, and we, well, it wasn't our best.
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Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 2h2 hours agoMary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabot#Browns Desmond Bryant: "We may have been sitting back a little bit, kind of catching more than we were delivering.''
#Browns Desmond Bryant: "We may have been sitting back a little bit, kind of catching more than we were delivering.''
I said something like this in the Tavern today.......... I said that "our defense is reacting and not attacking". I thought that the Texans did a great job with their game plan, and we, well, it wasn't our best.
#Browns Desmond Bryant: "We may have been sitting back a little bit, kind of catching more than we were delivering.''
I said something like this in the Tavern today.......... I said that "our defense is reacting and not attacking". I thought that the Texans did a great job with their game plan, and we, well, it wasn't our best.
Why were they sitting back?>???????????????
A 1st time starting QB and a backup rb, should have been a feeding frenzy
The coaching on the defensive side of the ball was AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sad to say I really expected this outcome.
Team loss, plain an simple, very few bright spots.
We're playing with a backup at C and we've got injuries all over the D.
Sheard and Winn hurt today.
Also looks like we lost Dansby today - probably out for the Season.
You think our D was bad before, without Dansby in there making the calls and plugging holes it's going to get really ugly.
Hoyer took a couple hits, one of them possibly a concussion type hit . . . if so, will he risk reporting it?
Bad, bad game in many ways.
Sad to say I really expected this outcome.
Team loss, plain an simple, very few bright spots.
We're playing with a backup at C and we've got injuries all over the D.
Sheard and Winn hurt today.
Also looks like we lost Dansby today - probably out for the Season.
You think our D was bad before, without Dansby in there making the calls and plugging holes it's going to get really ugly.
Hoyer took a couple hits, one of them possibly a concussion type hit . . . if so, will he risk reporting it?
Bad, bad game in many ways.
Dansby hasn't plugged a single hole this whole season....but....we will miss his leadership at that position. I didn't have that high hopes from him before the season, I just thought bringing in a vet to replace DQ was maybe not the worst decision..as long as we drafted the stud fucker that would eventually cpt our defense. Which is why Mack was begrudgingly 2nd on my board behind Watkins...cause Mack was my sentimental #1. Same with Werner the year before even though I wasn't mad at the Mingo pick. Werner is coming on nicely at Indy...tongights' a big night for them.
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Anyone who blames this loss on Hoyer is an idiot who did not watch the game OR knows NOTHING about football. If you want to blame Hoyer then you should never speak on this board again because you are an idiot.
It was a bad loss and there was plenty of blame to spread around.
You can either suck it up and do better, or fold and accept mediocrity. Lets see what they do before we start lighting the torches.
Bad game, everyone has them. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
If you want to blame Hoyer then you should never speak on this board again because you are an idiot.
I 2nd this. I know it's the internet and it's become a sanctioned playground for idiots...but the board mods should feel free to start kicking people claiming Hoyer is responsible for every loss we've had this season.
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Stupid O'Brien... expecting Foster to play at mid-week, but be a gameday decision.
Stupid Texans for officially listing Foster as Questionable on Friday.
Stupid NFL for believing the Texans and publishing their listing...
Stupid facts...
ESPN said Foster wasn't gonna play yesterday! lol
On the other hand the following are apparently smart... be they facts or opinions...
"Haden did nothing." Haden had no impact on the game, the INT only stalled HOU to take the lead later in the half
"(Pressure never affects accuracy.)" He was inaccurate even with not much pressure
"(A 2nd Qtr turnover determined the outcome of the game.)" Well it was a 10-14 point swing and since we only scored 7 the whole game. yeah it determined the game.
ESPN said Foster wasn't gonna play yesterday! lol
On the other hand the following are apparently smart... be they facts or opinions...
"Haden did nothing." Haden had no impact on the game, the INT only stalled HOU to take the lead later in the half
"(Pressure never affects accuracy.)" He was inaccurate even with not much pressure
"(A 2nd Qtr turnover determined the outcome of the game.)" Well it was a 10-14 point swing and since we only scored 7 the whole game. yeah it determined the game.
So one of ESPN's "source says" reports panned out... congratulations. I'll pin a note stating so to your dunce cap.
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