DA STILL DOMINATES THIS BOARD
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You have to commit to a QB and I think the Browns have committed to Quinn. DA doesn't fit the scheme that this team will be running on offense. He should be traded for a veteran that can run the WCO but one fact remains. He will be expensive to keep as a backup and also expensive to trade also.
When you trade him after putting up $5 million in a bonus and then you have to go out and pay for a veteran backup and also look at bringing in a young rookie that can be mentored and brought along you got a hunk of money tied up in this position.
So, even though Anderson isn't a good fit, you are paying him, so you can't just dump him for nothing.
Bottom line is that when camp starts Anderson will still be here.
BTW, count the Bears as a team willing to trade for him after we pay his bonus. They are looking for a veteran to come in and compete and have talked to the Browns. San Fran has also had preliminary talks with the Browns, but this may not shake out until draft day.
You have to commit to a QB and I think the Browns have committed to Quinn.
Doesn't sound that way:
INDIANAPOLIS -- General manager George Kokinis said Friday that the Cleveland Browns are in no hurry to get rid of Derek Anderson and were willing to let Anderson battle Brady Quinn for the starting quarterback job.
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Mangini said he has completed his video review of both quarterbacks, covering both the 2007 and '08 seasons, but has reached no conclusion about the future of the position.
"With both Derek and Brady, there's things I like a lot about both guys," he said. "I don't think there's going to be a defined time on this. I think you have to go through it and make the right choice, not necessarily by 'X' date. It's much more important to me to let it play out and then make the best decision."
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You have to commit to a QB and I think the Browns have committed to Quinn.
Doesn't sound that way:
INDIANAPOLIS -- General manager George Kokinis said Friday that the Cleveland Browns are in no hurry to get rid of Derek Anderson and were willing to let Anderson battle Brady Quinn for the starting quarterback job.
and
Mangini said he has completed his video review of both quarterbacks, covering both the 2007 and '08 seasons, but has reached no conclusion about the future of the position.
"With both Derek and Brady, there's things I like a lot about both guys," he said. "I don't think there's going to be a defined time on this. I think you have to go through it and make the right choice, not necessarily by 'X' date. It's much more important to me to let it play out and then make the best decision."
Doesn't sound that way:
INDIANAPOLIS -- General manager George Kokinis said Friday that the Cleveland Browns are in no hurry to get rid of Derek Anderson and were willing to let Anderson battle Brady Quinn for the starting quarterback job.
thats just a ploy to drive up his value
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nmills said:
thats just a ploy to drive up his valueDA's or Quinn's?
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You have to commit to a QB and I think the Browns have committed to Quinn.
Doesn't sound that way:
INDIANAPOLIS -- General manager George Kokinis said Friday that the Cleveland Browns are in no hurry to get rid of Derek Anderson and were willing to let Anderson battle Brady Quinn for the starting quarterback job.
and
Mangini said he has completed his video review of both quarterbacks, covering both the 2007 and '08 seasons, but has reached no conclusion about the future of the position.
"With both Derek and Brady, there's things I like a lot about both guys," he said. "I don't think there's going to be a defined time on this. I think you have to go through it and make the right choice, not necessarily by 'X' date. It's much more important to me to let it play out and then make the best decision."
Doesn't sound that way:
INDIANAPOLIS -- General manager George Kokinis said Friday that the Cleveland Browns are in no hurry to get rid of Derek Anderson and were willing to let Anderson battle Brady Quinn for the starting quarterback job.
I can't wait until five years from now when someone creates the "Remember Lumbergh?" thread here. We'll all have a good laugh over all this.
Until then, just remember to take deep breaths...
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Doesn't sound that way:
INDIANAPOLIS -- General manager George Kokinis said Friday that the Cleveland Browns are in no hurry to get rid of Derek Anderson and were willing to let Anderson battle Brady Quinn for the starting quarterback job.
I can't wait until five years from now when someone creates the "Remember Lumbergh?" thread here. We'll all have a good laugh over all this.
Until then, just remember to take deep breaths...
mz. said:
I can't wait until five years from now when someone creates the "Remember Lumbergh?" thread here. We'll all have a good laugh over all this.Until then, just remember to take deep breaths...
Oh yeah, I can see that now. Some other crazy poster will be on here and someone will be like "Man, this dude reminds me of that Lumbergh dude." Then someone will say "Who was Lumbergh?"
At that point there will be several answers such as:
"You know, the dude who loved DA so much he sang Air Supply lyrics about him?"
or
"The guy that hated Queen more than any man has ever hated another in the history of mankind."
or
"Leader of the real Beaver Nation, and not that kind of beaver."
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@hiwaygal said:
You know what I find interesting about all this...NO ONE is "speculating" that Quinn is up for trade.
Regardless of what happens with DA...Quinn is a Brown and isn't going anywhere.
Can DA handle the young up and comer breathin' down his neck for the next year???
Hum DA is 25 and BQ is 24. Think they are both young. And whether or not BQ is an up and comer will be determined this year when yes he WILL be the starter. I just find it funny that you come across like Da is a seasoned veteran and BQ is the new young blood.
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I can agree that the Browns feel that DA is not the guy for this team. Hence why he needs to be traded. Not sure if BQ is the guy or not but he will get his shot.
You would not waste a pick on a QB in the first round this year because you still don't know what you have in BQ. See what he does this year and you will have as much of a sample size as you did with DA. If the defense improves and you get help from trading Da away you might not need a QB that can throw 29TDs and 3900 Yards, maybe you just need a QB that won't throw 17ints. Time will tell, but there is no doubt in my mind that BQ will get his shot at proving he is the man.
That we can probably agree on.
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mz. said:
I can't wait until five years from now when someone creates the "Remember Lumbergh?" thread here. We'll all have a good laugh over all this.Until then, just remember to take deep breaths...
Oh yeah, I can see that now. Some other crazy poster will be on here and someone will be like "Man, this dude reminds me of that Lumbergh dude." Then someone will say "Who was Lumbergh?"
At that point there will be several answers such as:
"You know, the dude who loved DA so much he sang Air Supply lyrics about him?"
or
"The guy that hated Queen more than any man has ever hated another in the history of mankind."
or
"Leader of the real Beaver Nation, and not that kind of beaver."
Oh yeah, I can see that now. Some other crazy poster will be on here and someone will be like "Man, this dude reminds me of that Lumbergh dude." Then someone will say "Who was Lumbergh?"
At that point there will be several answers such as:
"You know, the dude who loved DA so much he sang Air Supply lyrics about him?"
or
"The guy that hated Queen more than any man has ever hated another in the history of mankind."
or
"Leader of the real Beaver Nation, and not that kind of beaver."
LOL! While we're at it, Lummy reminds me of the kid with all the goofey questions on Leave it to Beaver.
Beaver: Hey dad - why does Derek Anderson always throw the ball to the opponents?
Mr Cleaver: Never mind that son - just look at the size of the clumsy QB's feet and quit being such a Quinn fag.
Mrs Cleaver: Ward, don't you think you're a little hard on the Beaver?
Mr Cleaver: Remember what I told you about shoe size son! (winking his eye at the youngest Cleaver)
Eddie Haskell: I told you he gets her REAL good Wally!
Speaking of Derek Anderson, Happy Belated Valentine's Day Loverboy!
- Tom F.
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Doesn't sound that way:
INDIANAPOLIS -- General manager George Kokinis said Friday that the Cleveland Browns are in no hurry to get rid of Derek Anderson and were willing to let Anderson battle Brady Quinn for the starting quarterback job.
I can't wait until five years from now when someone creates the "Remember Lumbergh?" thread here. We'll all have a good laugh over all this.
Until then, just remember to take deep breaths...
mz. said:
I can't wait until five years from now when someone creates the "Remember Lumbergh?" thread here. We'll all have a good laugh over all this.He's attached himself to a Pro-Bowl QB that plays for the Browns. What's your problem, and who's your guy?
roach (This Board is weird)
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If the defense improves and you get help from trading Da away you might not need a QB that can throw 29TDs and 3900 Yards, maybe you just need a QB that won't throw 17ints. Time will tell, but there is no doubt in my mind that BQ will get his shot at proving he is the man.
How many TD's and INT's did DA throw in his last 16 starts? (18/17)
I base my views on the QB from what I watch in games. 11 of DA's TD's came in three games against Miami, Cincy, and St Louis. In those three games he threw 1 INT. So, in the other 12 starts in 2007 his TD to INT ratio was 18/16. Pedestrian.
The feeling that he's somehow getting a raw deal from many of us on the board amazes me.
EDIT: All this while posting the lowest passer rating in the NFL last year of any starter.
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mz. said:
I can't wait until five years from now when someone creates the "Remember Lumbergh?" thread here. We'll all have a good laugh over all this.He's attached himself to a Pro-Bowl QB that plays for the Browns. What's your problem, and who's your guy?
roach (This Board is weird)
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mz. said:
That's how you read this situation?I think he's having a bout of senility.
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If the defense improves and you get help from trading Da away you might not need a QB that can throw 29TDs and 3900 Yards, maybe you just need a QB that won't throw 17ints. Time will tell, but there is no doubt in my mind that BQ will get his shot at proving he is the man.
How many TD's and INT's did DA throw in his last 16 starts? (18/17)
I base my views on the QB from what I watch in games. 11 of DA's TD's came in three games against Miami, Cincy, and St Louis. In those three games he threw 1 INT. So, in the other 12 starts in 2007 his TD to INT ratio was 18/16. Pedestrian.
The feeling that he's somehow getting a raw deal from many of us on the board amazes me.
EDIT: All this while posting the lowest passer rating in the NFL last year of any starter.
How many TD's and INT's did DA throw in his last 16 starts? (18/17)
I base my views on the QB from what I watch in games. 11 of DA's TD's came in three games against Miami, Cincy, and St Louis. In those three games he threw 1 INT. So, in the other 12 starts in 2007 his TD to INT ratio was 18/16. Pedestrian.
The feeling that he's somehow getting a raw deal from many of us on the board amazes me.
EDIT: All this while posting the lowest passer rating in the NFL last year of any starter.
If you're going to throw out stats for DA's last 16 games, you might as well throw out BQs stats for all his starts.... 2 TDs and @ 2 Ints in 3 starts... both TDs against the NFL's 30th ranked scoring defense.
Point being.... BQ's proved nothing yet. DA does not have great stats by any means, but at least he's played against a good mix of opponents.
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How many TD's and INT's did DA throw in his last 16 starts? (18/17)
I base my views on the QB from what I watch in games. 11 of DA's TD's came in three games against Miami, Cincy, and St Louis. In those three games he threw 1 INT. So, in the other 12 starts in 2007 his TD to INT ratio was 18/16. Pedestrian.
The feeling that he's somehow getting a raw deal from many of us on the board amazes me.
EDIT: All this while posting the lowest passer rating in the NFL last year of any starter.
If you're going to throw out stats for DA's last 16 games, you might as well throw out BQs stats for all his starts.... 2 TDs and @ 2 Ints in 3 starts... both TDs against the NFL's 30th ranked scoring defense.
Point being.... BQ's proved nothing yet. DA does not have great stats by any means, but at least he's played against a good mix of opponents.
If you're going to throw out stats for DA's last 16 games, you might as well throw out BQs stats for all his starts.... 2 TDs and @ 2 Ints in 3 starts... both TDs against the NFL's 30th ranked scoring defense.
Point being.... BQ's proved nothing yet. DA does not have great stats by any means, but at least he's played against a good mix of opponents.
Its hilarious when someone points out the ranking of the defense that BQ scored against, but totally ignores that a lot of DA's TDs came against defenses that were nearly as bad in 2007.
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Was at the Pavlik vs. Rubio fight tonight in Youngstown at the Chevy Centre. Among the names of players I saw there were Ryan Tucker, Seth McKinney, Hank Fraley, Shawn Rogers, Brady Quinn, and GM George Kokinis was there.
Note: No DA to be found. I guess he doesn't care to be part of the team off the field.
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mz. said:
I can't wait until five years from now when someone creates the "Remember Lumbergh?" thread here. We'll all have a good laugh over all this.Until then, just remember to take deep breaths...
Oh yeah, I can see that now. Some other crazy poster will be on here and someone will be like "Man, this dude reminds me of that Lumbergh dude." Then someone will say "Who was Lumbergh?"
At that point there will be several answers such as:
"You know, the dude who loved DA so much he sang Air Supply lyrics about him?"
or
"The guy that hated Queen more than any man has ever hated another in the history of mankind."
or
"Leader of the real Beaver Nation, and not that kind of beaver."
Oh yeah, I can see that now. Some other crazy poster will be on here and someone will be like "Man, this dude reminds me of that Lumbergh dude." Then someone will say "Who was Lumbergh?"
At that point there will be several answers such as:
"You know, the dude who loved DA so much he sang Air Supply lyrics about him?"
or
"The guy that hated Queen more than any man has ever hated another in the history of mankind."
or
"Leader of the real Beaver Nation, and not that kind of beaver."
That was one of the funniest posts ever man....classic
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If you're going to throw out stats for DA's last 16 games, you might as well throw out BQs stats for all his starts.... 2 TDs and @ 2 Ints in 3 starts... both TDs against the NFL's 30th ranked scoring defense.
Point being.... BQ's proved nothing yet. DA does not have great stats by any means, but at least he's played against a good mix of opponents.
Its hilarious when someone points out the ranking of the defense that BQ scored against, but totally ignores that a lot of DA's TDs came against defenses that were nearly as bad in 2007.
Its hilarious when someone points out the ranking of the defense that BQ scored against, but totally ignores that a lot of DA's TDs came against defenses that were nearly as bad in 2007.
Or how about the first game against Cincy when they played a straight sort of man coverage? That had to be one of the worst NFL defenses I've ever seen. Then, by the time the second game came around they were even injured, but this time they played the umbrella 3 look and DA handed over the playoffs to them with 4 picks and no scores with all kinds of great field position.
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Its hilarious when someone points out the ranking of the defense that BQ scored against, but totally ignores that a lot of DA's TDs came against defenses that were nearly as bad in 2007.
Or how about the first game against Cincy when they played a straight sort of man coverage? That had to be one of the worst NFL defenses I've ever seen. Then, by the time the second game came around they were even injured, but this time they played the umbrella 3 look and DA handed over the playoffs to them with 4 picks and no scores with all kinds of great field position.
Or how about the first game against Cincy when they played a straight sort of man coverage? That had to be one of the worst NFL defenses I've ever seen. Then, by the time the second game came around they were even injured, but this time they played the umbrella 3 look and DA handed over the playoffs to them with 4 picks and no scores with all kinds of great field position.
2 of those picks to a rookie safety starting his 1st game thanks to injuries. His 2nd pick, came while defending K2 (6'5, 250) in the endzone. Oh yeah, Ndukwe is 6'1, 215 with his pads on.
(20 second timeout) How many rebounds did Muggsy Bogues ever nab while posting up on Hakeem Olajuwon?
Conclusion: Terrible decision + terribly thrown ball = No wildcard in 2007.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
What I find amusing is that now that we want to trade him to the highest bidder. He does not suck "quite as bad" as during the season.... think about that.. I'm smiling just typing this. hahha
What I find amusing is that now that we want to trade him to the highest bidder. He does not suck "quite as bad" as during the season.... think about that.. I'm smiling just typing this. hahha
Well yea!!! He does not suck "quite as bad" ...BECAUSE he's not on the field throwing INT's. He's up for trade getting us some much needed talent. It's about time he did something good for this team.
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