Interstellar
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If people have got this far without realising this thread will be spoiler-laden it's their own fault.
"I think the movie stipulates that the linearity of time (and the events you laid out in linear fashion) is circumvented by entering this black hole and the 'teseract' within that allows Coop to manipulate events. "
Yes, I'm ok with that. But in order to be able to enter the teseract, he needs to have already entered the teseract. He's in a time loop that works fine once it's in place, but there's no logic way for him to start it. For example, the 'first' time he lives that part, future him hasn't existed yet and hasn't been through the wormhole. I could buy that he goes back to give himself more information (like don't visit Dr Mann, he's a nutcase that will try to kill you?) but to give the information he needs to give in order to be able to give the information, just doesn't cut it for me.
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I'm not reading the spoilers. Was it worth seeing or not?
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I didn't like it. But that doesn't mean others may not love it. Don't take my word for anything...
WSS
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It's worth seeing, if you don't mind a few scientific inconsistencies and tear-your-hair-out moments.
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Or if you don't mind a multi year trip through space seeming like it was shot in real time...
WSS
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I'm not reading the spoilers. Was it worth seeing or not?
I'm not reading the spoilers. Was it worth seeing or not?
Yes, just don't raise your expectations. My friend warned me of the inconsistencies and I think that prepared me to enjoy the movie more than I would've had I gone in unwarned.
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I'm not reading the spoilers. Was it worth seeing or not?
Yes, just don't raise your expectations. My friend warned me of the inconsistencies and I think that prepared me to enjoy the movie more than I would've had I gone in unwarned.
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Doesn't Sci-Fi require a leap of faith because obviously we haven't gotten there yet?
And, Is it worse than Charlize Theron dieing because she couldn't fucking turn left?
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Doesn't Sci-Fi require a leap of faith because obviously we haven't gotten there yet?
And, Is it worse than Charlize Theron dieing because she couldn't fucking turn left?
Doesn't Sci-Fi require a leap of faith because obviously we haven't gotten there yet?
And, Is it worse than Charlize Theron dieing because she couldn't fucking turn left?
Sci-Fi requires some suspension of disbelief, but there are certain things that we know to be the case - like the fact that you can't enter a black hole and hope to survive, among other things. Check the spoilers for the full list of gripes, some of which are scientific, others are more plot oriented.
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Hey I'm sure there are some people out there that will be really bothered if the shit in a science fiction movie isn't pure science. Oh well.
Keep in mind that 50% of the words in the term science fiction is fiction.
And over the decades there've been all sorts a ridiculous things that actually come to pass.
I'll give you an example. I can still enjoy a Western even though the good guy is shooting the gun out of the hand of the bad guy at 500 feet with a pistol on horseback.
WSS
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Doesn't Sci-Fi require a leap of faith because obviously we haven't gotten there yet?
And, Is it worse than Charlize Theron dieing because she couldn't fucking turn left?
Sci-Fi requires some suspension of disbelief, but there are certain things that we know to be the case - like the fact that you can't enter a black hole and hope to survive, among other things. Check the spoilers for the full list of gripes, some of which are scientific, others are more plot oriented.
Sci-Fi requires some suspension of disbelief, but there are certain things that we know to be the case - like the fact that you can't enter a black hole and hope to survive, among other things. Check the spoilers for the full list of gripes, some of which are scientific, others are more plot oriented.
Just a bit more devils-advocating... things known for certain have been proven wrong before. They get proven wrong when additional data comes to light or when advances in technology make the impossible possible. Within the movie, the teseract is the product of some advanced technology. What is to say it doesn't somehow mitigate the gravitational forces at the center of the black hole? That's the speculative part of speculative fiction.
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Perhaps. But then you can come up with all kinds of bullshit and not even attempt to justify it beyond saying 'well, even though it's impossible, it's still possible'
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Perhaps. But then you can come up with all kinds of bullshit and not even attempt to justify it beyond saying 'well, even though it's impossible, it's still possible'
Perhaps. But then you can come up with all kinds of bullshit and not even attempt to justify it beyond saying 'well, even though it's impossible, it's still possible'
Half-way decent writers will try to justify it, that's Sci-Fi Writing 101, and the movie does attempt to do so with the whole future advanced technology slant. It's just for you not an acceptable justification.
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Let me quote the theme song from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
"if you wonder how they eat and breathe and other science facts, repeat to yourself 'its just a show I should really just relax'"
WSS
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I will use a paraphrase from the movie itself: It was 90% boring, 10% interesting
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Saw it over the weekend. Watched 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time a week before. 2001 was better, and the book by Arthur C. Clarke is the best piece of sci-fi ever, without question.
That said, I liked how they implemented relativity, but I have no idea why the quantum gravity readings in Gargantuan allowed Murphy to get the spaceship off the earth. Just one of those Chris Nolan loopholes, I guess.
Things I didn't like:"Love is the answer." So fucking corny.
"Evolving into a 5-dimensional species." Um. Right. The beings who put the wormholes there were actually humans from the future? So the humans that existed because Murphy got them off the planet put a device back in time to allow Murphy to get them off the planet. That's some grandfather paradox shit right there. I mean, I let shit like that pass in Terminator, because I'm not watching Terminator for the story, but in a movie like Interstellar, it just doesn't fit.
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I always prefer my Science Fiction movies to be reality.
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I always prefer my Science Fiction movies to be reality.
I always prefer my Science Fiction movies to be reality.
This is going to sound so conceited (and it probably is), but having learned all the STEM stuff I know makes it very difficult for me to enjoy lots of movies.
For example, Cowboys and Aliens - ship of an alien species with very powerful directed energy weapons uses ancient rocket technology on their spaceship
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