How many games would we have to lose before you bench Hoyer
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Some of you "fans" don't deserve a winning football team.
Wouldn't it be novel if, for once, this fan base actually supported our winning starting QB instead of calling for his head after a bad game or two? I got news for all of you who think your hero Johhny Football is going to go out and "wreck the league" in his first few starts. You are WRONG! Then what? do we start calling for his head, too? if he doesnt win more than he loses in his first 12 games?
At some point, we are going to have to give a guy the opportunity to get through the growing pains.
Anyone here who believes that Johnny is doing better in practice than Hoyer, but yet isn't starting is fooling themselves. WTH would be the reason for that? Have we all NOT seen the UDFA K'Waun Williams playing ahead of Gilbert? Did that happen in a vacuum? Did they just say "eff it" lets see if this UDFA is better than the 8th overall pick for the hell of it? Or, perhaps, just maybe, Williams was preparing and practicing better than Gilbert?
Keep on believing you know more than the coaches who watch practice every day. This staff appears to care more about winning, and in turn, keeping their jobs than satisfying a fan clamoring for something they know nothing about.
Every NFL expert I heard said that Johnny was not a lock as a pro. He would need to be coached out of bad habits and have a lot to learn about the pro game as far as learning a playbook and reading defenses. If he was as good as you all seem to think he is, he wouldn't have slipped to 22 and he certainly would have been drafted ahead of Bortles. He wasn't for a reason.
I get that patience has worn thin for Browns fans, but our record this year would most likely look a helluva lot more like all the other rookie records this year if we had gone with Manziel, and there is no guarantee it won't look like that next year if he starts. Calm down and let the people who know what they are doing make these decisions. Jeebus!
Or, we could continue the pattern we have had since 1999. Start a new QB every season and see how it goes. It's worked so well in the past.
Some of you "fans" don't deserve a winning football team.
Wouldn't it be novel if, for once, this fan base actually supported our winning starting QB instead of calling for his head after a bad game or two? I got news for all of you who think your hero Johhny Football is going to go out and "wreck the league" in his first few starts. You are WRONG! Then what? do we start calling for his head, too? if he doesnt win more than he loses in his first 12 games?
At some point, we are going to have to give a guy the opportunity to get through the growing pains.
Anyone here who believes that Johnny is doing better in practice than Hoyer, but yet isn't starting is fooling themselves. WTH would be the reason for that? Have we all NOT seen the UDFA K'Waun Williams playing ahead of Gilbert? Did that happen in a vacuum? Did they just say "eff it" lets see if this UDFA is better than the 8th overall pick for the hell of it? Or, perhaps, just maybe, Williams was preparing and practicing better than Gilbert?
Keep on believing you know more than the coaches who watch practice every day. This staff appears to care more about winning, and in turn, keeping their jobs than satisfying a fan clamoring for something they know nothing about.
Every NFL expert I heard said that Johnny was not a lock as a pro. He would need to be coached out of bad habits and have a lot to learn about the pro game as far as learning a playbook and reading defenses. If he was as good as you all seem to think he is, he wouldn't have slipped to 22 and he certainly would have been drafted ahead of Bortles. He wasn't for a reason.
I get that patience has worn thin for Browns fans, but our record this year would most likely look a helluva lot more like all the other rookie records this year if we had gone with Manziel, and there is no guarantee it won't look like that next year if he starts. Calm down and let the people who know what they are doing make these decisions. Jeebus!
Or, we could continue the pattern we have had since 1999. Start a new QB every season and see how it goes. It's worked so well in the past.
Well said! Thank you.
Mike
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I personally thought before the season the entire year would go like that first half against PIT, and Hoyer would be benched at the bye after starting the year with 3 abysmal performances. But wouldn't you know, they started the year looking like a .500 football team. At this point if he has 2-3 more JAX/HOU performances, I could see J Money getting some more time, but at QB instead of WR lol
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Hoyer looks bad this next game, and I'm thinking Johnny's on field PDQ . . . and I'm a Hoyer guy.
Team is showing signs of collapse, and it's primarily the D's fault . . . due to injuries.
We're just too damn decimated in key spots on both sides of the line at this point the Season.
We need another year or two to build our depth/talent, but at least it appears that we're on the right path.
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Hoyer looks bad this next game, and I'm thinking Johnny's on field PDQ . . . and I'm a Hoyer guy.
Team is showing signs of collapse, and it's primarily the D's fault . . . due to injuries.
We're just too damn decimated in key spots on both sides of the line at this point the Season.
We need another year or two to build our depth/talent, but at least it appears that we're on the right path.
Hoyer looks bad this next game, and I'm thinking Johnny's on field PDQ . . . and I'm a Hoyer guy.
Team is showing signs of collapse, and it's primarily the D's fault . . . due to injuries.
We're just too damn decimated in key spots on both sides of the line at this point the Season.
We need another year or two to build our depth/talent, but at least it appears that we're on the right path.
No way man! I'm clinging to this winning record like it's the last loaf of bread in the zombie apocalypse.
I need at least a couple more gut wrenching losses before l start thinking that way.
This team is gonna step up.
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I don't know, but I do think Hoyer could be on a short leash if he lays 1 or 2 more Houston/Jacksonville performances.
This coaching staff certainly doesn't tolerate bullshit.
Example: Cutting Tate, Benching Gilbert, etc.
I don't know, but I do think Hoyer could be on a short leash if he lays 1 or 2 more Houston/Jacksonville performances.
This coaching staff certainly doesn't tolerate bullshit.
Example: Cutting Tate, Benching Gilbert, etc.
Yeah....houston was his fault....jesus man..wake up. One post you make sense... The next one...you get all stupid.
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I don't know, but I do think Hoyer could be on a short leash if he lays 1 or 2 more Houston/Jacksonville performances.
This coaching staff certainly doesn't tolerate bullshit.
Example: Cutting Tate, Benching Gilbert, etc.
Yeah....houston was his fault....jesus man..wake up. One post you make sense... The next one...you get all stupid.
Yeah....houston was his fault....jesus man..wake up. One post you make sense... The next one...you get all stupid.
It wasn't all his fault but Hoyer played like shit vs. Houston and anyone who can't see that is uh....
VISUALLY IMPAIRED.
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Idk it really depends. I still don't believe he single handedly lost us the jax or the Texans games but he didn't help.
I think we're gonna finish well enough for Hoyer to finish the year though, but you never know.
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I won't answer till you fix the Title of the Question.
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I won't answer till you fix the Title of the Question.
I tried, I think only admin can change the title
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It wasn't all his fault but Hoyer played like shit vs. Houston and anyone who can't see that is uh....
VISUALLY IMPAIRED.
yeah he had a bad game like maybe 21 other players on the team that day.
some people might be visually impaired but at least they stick to a purpose, a theme.
you, you flip flop more than a wild bass being tossed into the boat alive.
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I personally thought before the season the entire year would go like that first half against PIT, and Hoyer would be benched at the bye after starting the year with 3 abysmal performances. But wouldn't you know, they started the year looking like a .500 football team. At this point if he has 2-3 more JAX/HOU performances, I could see J Money getting some more time, but at QB instead of WR lol
I personally thought before the season the entire year would go like that first half against PIT, and Hoyer would be benched at the bye after starting the year with 3 abysmal performances. But wouldn't you know, they started the year looking like a .500 football team. At this point if he has 2-3 more JAX/HOU performances, I could see J Money getting some more time, but at QB instead of WR lol
is there something wrong with the water in columbus? or is it just dumb ohio staters snorting bath salts or smoking krokadelia?
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"Lost" is past tense, "Lose" is future tense, but I'm sure you know that.
Gramma smackdown, mofo. And l ain't talkin' yo mama's mama.
Or you could go with "have to have lost", which might be kinda cool using the same word twice in three words. It would totally confuse the foreigners.
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Hoyer looks bad this next game, and I'm thinking Johnny's on field PDQ . . . and I'm a Hoyer guy.
Team is showing signs of collapse, and it's primarily the D's fault . . . due to injuries.
We're just too damn decimated in key spots on both sides of the line at this point the Season.
We need another year or two to build our depth/talent, but at least it appears that we're on the right path.
No way man! I'm clinging to this winning record like it's the last loaf of bread in the zombie apocalypse.
I need at least a couple more gut wrenching losses before l start thinking that way.
This team is gonna step up.
No way man! I'm clinging to this winning record like it's the last loaf of bread in the zombie apocalypse.
I need at least a couple more gut wrenching losses before l start thinking that way.
This team is gonna step up.
I've already seen losses where we shouldn't have lost.
Add all the key injuries (primarily on D and that units' performance) and I still see this Team in transition.
Trust me, I would absolutely love to have the last to first / Cinderella story going for this Team, but some of the Eggs they've laid + injuries are just too much for me to see that.
I do see a definite positive change in direction for the Team though, they're starting to get it together, but some of our prime players don't seem to be reflecting that (sadly).
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Gramma smackdown, mofo. And l ain't talkin' yo mama's mama.
Or you could go with "have to have lost", which might be kinda cool using the same word twice in three words. It would totally confuse the foreigners.
Would have confused me....
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Houston Game = TEAM loss.
Hoyer, being the Team leader is who takes the hit for this whether it's his fault or not (and it's not all his fault).
Gordon (+ Cameron) are not likely to change the course of our Season, as at this point we're Defensively non-existent.
We start putting up 40 - 50 pts a game . . . that's another story, I just don't see it happening.
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No way man! I'm clinging to this winning record like it's the last loaf of bread in the zombie apocalypse.
I need at least a couple more gut wrenching losses before l start thinking that way.
This team is gonna step up.
I've already seen losses where we shouldn't have lost.
Add all the key injuries (primarily on D and that units' performance) and I still see this Team in transition.
Trust me, I would absolutely love to have the last to first / Cinderella story going for this Team, but some of the Eggs they've laid + injuries are just too much for me to see that.
I do see a definite positive change in direction for the Team though, they're starting to get it together, but some of our prime players don't seem to be reflecting that (sadly).
I've already seen losses where we shouldn't have lost.
Add all the key injuries (primarily on D and that units' performance) and I still see this Team in transition.
Trust me, I would absolutely love to have the last to first / Cinderella story going for this Team, but some of the Eggs they've laid + injuries are just too much for me to see that.
I do see a definite positive change in direction for the Team though, they're starting to get it together, but some of our prime players don't seem to be reflecting that (sadly).
Sure, l see the chinks in the armor too, but the only thing l can realistically control in this is my attitude.
We've both felt the suckiness of past seasons, but there's plenty of coffin nails not in the coffin right now.
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I've already seen losses where we shouldn't have lost.
Add all the key injuries (primarily on D and that units' performance) and I still see this Team in transition.
Trust me, I would absolutely love to have the last to first / Cinderella story going for this Team, but some of the Eggs they've laid + injuries are just too much for me to see that.
I do see a definite positive change in direction for the Team though, they're starting to get it together, but some of our prime players don't seem to be reflecting that (sadly).
Sure, l see the chinks in the armor too, but the only thing l can realistically control in this is my attitude.
We've both felt the suckiness of past seasons, but there's plenty of coffin nails not in the coffin right now.
In our division, we haven't even bought the coffin yet.Sure, l see the chinks in the armor too, but the only thing l can realistically control in this is my attitude.
We've both felt the suckiness of past seasons, but there's plenty of coffin nails not in the coffin right now.
We haven't lost games because of Hoyer, which is good at least (not that he helped blah blah). We have won games because of him earlier on though (saints, titans)
Let's just torch Atlanta
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It's great that Manziel gets to watch and learn and not be thrown to the wolves like many rookies.
Hoyer is doing fine. He's had no running game and 5'7" receivers to throw to.
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