Ravens looking moderately good
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Do you think losing Jimmy Smith is a bigger loss than Alex Mack? Because if you want to talk about how scary-good a team would be with all its starters, look no further than us having Mack/Gordon for the whole season, along with, you know, a D-Line.
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It just figures the year the Browns put it together though is when the division plays at a historically high level. Agree though, just gotta focus on winning the games now.
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Do you think losing Jimmy Smith is a bigger loss than Alex Mack? Because if you want to talk about how scary-good a team would be with all its starters, look no further than us having Mack/Gordon for the whole season, along with, you know, a D-Line.
Do you think losing Jimmy Smith is a bigger loss than Alex Mack? Because if you want to talk about how scary-good a team would be with all its starters, look no further than us having Mack/Gordon for the whole season, along with, you know, a D-Line.
Bigger than Mack? Yes. Bigger then Gordon, well debatable but you have him back now while Jimmy is gone for the year.
And remember, you're the one reacting to a perceived slight...i never compared our situation to the browns saying it was worse, just commenting on my team's performance in a vacuum.
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Solid effort all around from the Ratbirds front 7 last night. Fuck em, though, they couldn't keep Brees from maintaining by 28 point lead in fantasy. Dropped to 9-3 because of that.
However the Saints Oline is simply becoming quite porous. No excuse for Breesy to not have been lighting up that average secondary early and often.
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We'll take care of them in Baltimore. Pittsburgh is the only team we need to lose again, and Cincy has two shots at them, will surely take one.
Zombo
Zombo said:
We'll take care of them in Baltimore. Pittsburgh is the only team we need to lose again, and Cincy has two shots at them, will surely take one.
Zombo
Right, because it is so easy to win in Baltimore.
Even with Gordon back, unless you find a way to slow that pass rush Hoyer is gonna be on his back or throwing ducks. And good luck against Forsett
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Zombo said:
We'll take care of them in Baltimore. Pittsburgh is the only team we need to lose again, and Cincy has two shots at them, will surely take one.
Zombo
Right, because it is so easy to win in Baltimore.
Even with Gordon back, unless you find a way to slow that pass rush Hoyer is gonna be on his back or throwing ducks. And good luck against Forsett
Right, because it is so easy to win in Baltimore.
Even with Gordon back, unless you find a way to slow that pass rush Hoyer is gonna be on his back or throwing ducks. And good luck against Forsett
Hold you smack spittle, Skippy, just worry about the Chargers, everyone in the division beat the Saints, don't wet yourself.
Zombo
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Browns match up well against bal, that game in CLE was quite frustrating. Browns easily had that gaMe in hand. We will see, Ravens arent exactly world beaters but are playing well enough atm
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Do you think losing Jimmy Smith is a bigger loss than Alex Mack? Because if you want to talk about how scary-good a team would be with all its starters, look no further than us having Mack/Gordon for the whole season, along with, you know, a D-Line.
Bigger than Mack? Yes. Bigger then Gordon, well debatable but you have him back now while Jimmy is gone for the year.
And remember, you're the one reacting to a perceived slight...i never compared our situation to the browns saying it was worse, just commenting on my team's performance in a vacuum.
Bigger than Mack? Yes. Bigger then Gordon, well debatable but you have him back now while Jimmy is gone for the year.
And remember, you're the one reacting to a perceived slight...i never compared our situation to the browns saying it was worse, just commenting on my team's performance in a vacuum.
I didn't take it as a slight at all. I was genuinely curious as to whether you thought Smith was a bigger loss than Mack. For us, we basically lost our 'elite' OL status, with scrubs playing center, meaning we struggled in pass-protection, and suffered horribly in rushing, which was intended to be the mainstay of this team. Don't forget, we went from something like 3rd in the league in rush yards per game, over 5 games, to averaging about 50 YPG after the injury.
I'd say Mack's absence has been felt more keenly than Gordon, thanks in part to the play of Hawkins, but also thanks to the position he plays.
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It just figures the year the Browns put it together though is when the division plays at a historically high level. Agree though, just gotta focus on winning the games now.
It just figures the year the Browns put it together though is when the division plays at a historically high level. Agree though, just gotta focus on winning the games now.
because those in the division have played some bad teams.
i don't mean to take anything away from our record because i'm happier than a pig in shit now BUT let's be realistic, who have we played that is good other than those in our division? and we lost to 2 schlub teams that we should have beat. we beat those teams and we're alone in first.
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Right, because it is so easy to win in Baltimore.
Even with Gordon back, unless you find a way to slow that pass rush Hoyer is gonna be on his back or throwing ducks. And good luck against Forsett
Hold you smack spittle, Skippy, just worry about the Chargers, everyone in the division beat the Saints, don't wet yourself.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Hold you smack spittle, Skippy, just worry about the Chargers, everyone in the division beat the Saints, don't wet yourself.
Zombo
True. I didn't say anything along the lines of thinking we're unbeatable, just not easy to beat at home, and seeing as we won in Cleveland earlier in the year i feel pretty confident about playing in Baltimore with playoff stakes on the line. Should be a good game. If we lose I'll be here congratulating you guys and eating crow. (Does that make me a cannibal if I eat crow?) But there's a difference of "We have a good chance against Baltimore" and "We're gonna smash them back down to the bottom" like some in other threads have posted. I just count it as foolish to count on someone winning in Baltimore with playoff stakes on the line....Baltimore has a pretty good history of performing at home in those situations.
Browns match up well against bal, that game in CLE was quite frustrating. Browns easily had that gaMe in hand. We will see, Ravens arent exactly world beaters but are playing well enough atm
They do in terms of receiving core vs our secondary but then again everyone matches up well against us in that regard. Our front seven matches up well against your offensive line. our offense is inconsistent, but at home they usually perform well plus Forsett is heating up and Torrey is finally playing like he did last year. The game will come down to how Hoyer handles the pressure.
@columbusking said:
PurplePantyWaste, Your brain is a waste. The Bengals had no trouble beating you @Home. Stopping the pass rush? The ravens sacked Hoyer 0 times in the first match up lol. Stopping Forsett? He had a 8 yards per rush last night against the Browns it was only 5.
That was week 3 when we had no pass rush. We're a completely different team from week 3, our front seven has dominated every single game. Our secondary is atrocious though outside Will Hill and Webb.
Forsett has evolved and grown more comfortable in the rushing scheme, and our receivers have been trending in the right direction. Not having Pitta really was a blow to our offense but we've seen to found ourselves and Flacco is hitting a groove.
Two things I will boldly guarantee: Hoyer will be sacked, and he will be hit often. That'll be the deciding factor of the game, can Hoyer play well through the pressure and tack advantage of our second chance secondary.
I didn't take it as a slight at all. I was genuinely curious as to whether you thought Smith was a bigger loss than Mack. For us, we basically lost our 'elite' OL status, with scrubs playing center, meaning we struggled in pass-protection, and suffered horribly in rushing, which was intended to be the mainstay of this team. Don't forget, we went from something like 3rd in the league in rush yards per game, over 5 games, to averaging about 50 YPG after the injury.
I'd say Mack's absence has been felt more keenly than Gordon, thanks in part to the play of Hawkins, but also thanks to the position he plays.
We went from debatable one of the top 3 defenses in the league to middle of the pack. Now we basically rely on our front seven to generate enough pressure to keep even mediocre qbs from picking apart the secondary. Will Hill was a god send, as without him we'd be 7-5 right now or worse.
Pitta is also a loss that is hard to quantify. It took a while for us to figure out 3rd downs as he was the guy who we either went to or that defenses keyed in on. He was the only guy Joe could really depend on to throw the ball up to.
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@columbusking said:
Infact over the season the Browns have amassed more sacks then the ravens so maybe YOU should worry about Blow Flacco being on his back....
Really? Because according to the NFL, Browns are at 23 and Ravens on 29.
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@columbusking said:
Infact over the season the Browns have amassed more sacks then the ravens so maybe YOU should worry about Blow Flacco being on his back....
Eyeball test tells me Ravens pass rush is far superior, I'd bet a lot of Browns sacks were coverage sacks.
Joe Flacco has lost 1 game to you guys his whole career, during a year where we had possibly the worst Ravens team ever fielded since before 2000, so save the name calling for after week 17 if you manage to win.
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@columbusking said:
Infact over the season the Browns have amassed more sacks then the ravens so maybe YOU should worry about Blow Flacco being on his back....
Really? Because according to the NFL, Browns are at 23 and Ravens on 29.
Really? Because according to the NFL, Browns are at 23 and Ravens on 29.
Idk, stats are nice but without watching every single game to examine how they got that way aren't reliable ways of constructing arguments IMO, at least not stats in and of themselves.
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Idk, stats are nice but without watching every single game to examine how they got that way aren't reliable ways of constructing arguments IMO, at least not stats in and of themselves.
Just fact-checking a fellow browns fan who claimed the opposite to be true is all.
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Idk, stats are nice but without watching every single game to examine how they got that way aren't reliable ways of constructing arguments IMO, at least not stats in and of themselves.
Just fact-checking a fellow browns fan who claimed the opposite to be true is all.
Just fact-checking a fellow browns fan who claimed the opposite to be true is all.
I know.
It is a night and day difference though how our front seven played against you guys week 3 where they made Hoyer look All-Pro from now where they make quarterbacks wet themselves in the pocket.
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It's also night-and-day how different our secondary has looked since about week 6. See this article from PFF - cumulative -12.3 first four games, +30 since (after the Bengals game).
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I know.
It is a night and day difference though how our front seven played against you guys week 3 where they made Hoyer look All-Pro from now where they make quarterbacks wet themselves in the pocket.
We're going to come to play week 17, you can book it. Our secondary is playing lights out, running game coming back, and our receiving corps have big play ability.
It'll be a good game, but for now we need to beat buffalo.
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Right, because it is so easy to win in Baltimore.
Even with Gordon back, unless you find a way to slow that pass rush Hoyer is gonna be on his back or throwing ducks. And good luck against Forsett
Hold you smack spittle, Skippy, just worry about the Chargers, everyone in the division beat the Saints, don't wet yourself.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Hold you smack spittle, Skippy, just worry about the Chargers, everyone in the division beat the Saints, don't wet yourself.
Zombo
Everyone except, hopefully, the Steelers....who they play next week.
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@columbusking said:
Infact over the season the Browns have amassed more sacks then the ravens so maybe YOU should worry about Blow Flacco being on his back....
Eyeball test tells me Ravens pass rush is far superior, I'd bet a lot of Browns sacks were coverage sacks.
Joe Flacco has lost 1 game to you guys his whole career, during a year where we had possibly the worst Ravens team ever fielded since before 2000, so save the name calling for after week 17 if you manage to win.
Eyeball test tells me Ravens pass rush is far superior, I'd bet a lot of Browns sacks were coverage sacks.
Well, considering the Browns are down by like 3 DL (Taylor, Armonty Bryant, Hughes) the Ravens pass rush should be superior. It probably was even before the injuries, what with Suggs and Dumerville....who are long time veteran quality pass rushers. the injury factor even increases that edge.
Joe Flacco has lost 1 game to you guys his whole career, during a year where we had possibly the worst Ravens team ever fielded since before 2000, so save the name calling for after week 17 if you manage to win.
Ben Roethlisberger only lost once to the Browns in his career. What happened last time the Browns played him? And he is better than Flacco.
History is history. Enoy it. Talk about it....but don't expect it to repeat over and over.
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