Week 13: @ Bills
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George C said:
Put this in the potential "I told you so" column.
Stopping Watkins isn't your problem here. You will have him well accounted for, and your best corner will be all over him. Probably some safety help to boot.
Your problem is Robert Woods.
This guy is another emerging potential super star wide out which the rest of the NFL will clearly know about next year. He isn't getting the best corner like he attracted last year thanks to Sammy.
If you leave this guy one on one with Skrine, expect a ton of balls thrown his way, and he had the hands to catch anything. Woods and Watkins are quickly becoming a two headed monster. A pick your poison scenario.
I'm sure I'm going to get jabbed more about this aspect of the game, but trust me folks, this guy is your problem. If your DBs cover this well, I tip my hat...
If good Kyle shows up..
Better generate some massive pass rush, or good Kyle definitely shows up.
Skrine's a damn good corner.
Here's your three-headed monster: Covering Hawkins and Gordon while Cameron opens up the seam in the middle.
We promise to take a good look with Robert Woods.
But you still might familiarize yourself with our receiving corps.
When he has played, Gordon has been the best receiver in the NFL over the past two years, bar none.
Hawkins and Gabriel are fast little smurfs that will cut you up.
Austin the consummate pro that runs good routes and makes clutch catches.
Benjamin is the wild card ... fastest player on the team, will get used on trick plays, reverses and bombs.
And then there is our tight ends ... Barnridge and Dray are reliable and powerful ... Cameron is zone defense killer when healthy. Fast enough to run the seam, big enough to bowl you over, athletic enough to make any catch.
If we have Gordon, Cam and Hawk on the field healthy for the first time, your defense will get tested like it hasn't all season.
But I promise we'll watch for woods.
Zombo
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George C said:
I've been respectful. I like the Browns etc. I hope our Lake Erie teams starts a rise to glory for once..obviously, I think the Bills are is a much better place right now.
You sir, are the reason, and the type of person the rest of the NFL equates with Cleveland, right back to the Sam Wyche days.
Please don't bother responding to any more of my posts. I would appreciate that. I honestly don't want to waste one second of my time on someone as nasty as you are towards others.
As for the rest of my Cleveland friends and Lake Erie teams, I will never Insult you with a childish stupid name like this guy constantly does. We both love our teams, and feel we will win.
Truth is, which ever team loses this game may be out of the playoffs. We will put all of this speculating to rest on Sunday, and I'll be here one way or another Sunday night..
Grow a set.
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George C said:
Ok boys, I'll take the insults as nothing more than some Cleveland love.
Shit like that will get us banned from the bills board...
Can't help it they are pussies.
Showdown week.
Let's just hope both teams come away injury free.
No, too late for that. Bills are in a playoff race with the Browns. If they get 5 players sent to IR...all the better for us.
Not life threatening harm....just season ending harm.
Last time was a mess of devastating injuries. We took out your QB, which Kiko was actually sick over, and then you guys castrated Marrone by taking out Manuel on a run that the dumb ass should have run out of bounds on. That was the last time the kid ever left the pocket.
Who are your best players so that the Browns can know who to target with cheap shots?
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George C said:
If you saw the KC game, Buffalo dominated them from start to finish defensively. The only reason that game was lost was because Orton was bad Orton that day, and Marrone doesn't understand the sense of going for it on 4th down on the opponents 30. We get that half a yard, we win. Fucking coaches and their "playing not to lose" theory.
The only way the Browns win is by opals theory.
OK, explain "Opal's theory". Is that like quantum physics?
Not going to happen this week.
It could happen because the Browns are just better, no? Yes.
Jackson is back healthy for the first time in a month. Dixon and Brown will spell him. Orton will throw for 300 yards again, Woods is on fire from the attention Sammy has been getting, if sammy is single covered, he will get 150 yards himself, and Marrone DOESNT DARE go uber conservative again. The fans here will storm the field and string him to the goal post if he does.
For the Bills to lose, and it could happen, bad bad Kyle shows up and Fred gets hurt again.
the Browns could force bad Kyle to show up.....though it is tougher now with all our injuries.
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George C said:
I know buffalo better than you guys, and you know the Browns better than me.
Watkins has drawn double teams every week accept against Revis.
Right now, Haden is better than Revis....so it is quite possible that he won't face a double team.
Buffalo won't let Orton throw against double teams and obviously not against Revis. Everyone loads to his side. And of course when he is wide open, Orton is keyed on Woods or Chandler. If the Browns let Hayden cover one on one, and the do a Revis, I'll be pissed. They aren't even looking at him. The jets receptions were between double coverage, which was more about Orton than Revis.
KC isn't that good. Who ever played them in the playoffs will get an almost bye.
They have Jamal Charles who is the real deal, and some other nice pieces, but nothing close to a contender.
KC is 7-4, better than Buffalo in a better division. Not sure why you think so lowly of KC.
If the Bills do happen to lose, il be here to take my lumps....
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George C said:
There are a couple. I would take a cheap shot at our offensive coordinator. He needs a shot to the head to unscramble his brain.
I would also cheap shot, but not hurt Mario Williams. When he gets pissed, he turns into something very ugly and very dangerous.
You need to see that guy in person to understand how much of a freak he is.
Maybe a cheap shot to
Recently saw a pic of Williams wearing red contacts....looked like the devil himself....
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sorry to take this back to a post earlier but i think KC is damn good. but right now there are a lot of really good teams in the AFC whereas in the NFC i really only see GB and Dallas.
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George C said:
Shit like that will get us banned from the bills board...
That's cause you're all a bunch of broke back bitches.
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i caught on the radio that fred jackson is running his mouth that he has no respect for dontae whitner because of something he tweeted over the summer......anybody no what was said between the two"
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i caught on the radio that fred jackson is running his mouth that he has no respect for dontae whitner because of something he tweeted over the summer......anybody no what was said between the two"
i caught on the radio that fred jackson is running his mouth that he has no respect for dontae whitner because of something he tweeted over the summer......anybody no what was said between the two"
He said something about the bills moving to Toronto
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I also think, at least with a segment of the Bills community, that there is some pretty bad blood there. Donte is a first rounder who spurned Buffalo and moved on the first chance he got. So it's understandable. We'd sling a bit of mud too, im sure.....anyhoo, he's more than happy to sling it back I guess....
A little pre-game back and forth isn't too bad....except when it's Greg Little.....
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i caught on the radio that fred jackson is running his mouth that he has no respect for dontae whitner because of something he tweeted over the summer......anybody no what was said between the two"
He said something about the bills moving to Toronto
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We had a thread about potential bills moving before. Consensus is we support our small market brothers because they supported us when every other owner backed Art.George C said:
Definitely about Toronto.
He is a total asshole. It's like rubbing Clevelands faces in the Baltimore Ravens deal. Like praising Art Modell and his move that hurt you guys, and cost Cleveland two SB rings and three years without the Browns.
He was calling the Bills the future Toronto Bills etc. we're not as big as Cleveland, so if we lost the Bills, there would be no second chance.
How would you guys react to that? So I don't want to hear any support for that asshole, or it makes you guys total hypocrites.
Trust me, he'll probably get the total treatment, and he may be enough of a reason the Bills will be extra motivated.
Pure asshole, and that's why he's not in SF. He will talk himself out of your locker room soon enough.
He's originally pissed because Buffalo let him walk and didn't offer him a contract. He wanted corner money from Ralph. Got the door instead.
Not a locker room guy.
Writes a lot of checks his body can't cash. The talent around him makes him look better than he is.
The guy is an idiot folks, don't fall in love with him. He can make plays and is a decent safety, but don't trust his play when it's the money rounds.
Also, pick the guy on the Browns that you would have the most respect for, a guy who is humble, doesn't talk shit for no reason, and someone who has Clevelands back. someone who is totally beloved.
That's Fred Jackson for us.
But calling them the future Toronto bills isn't as bad as what happened to us, well because it actually happened.
As far as players who have Cleveland's back...whitner is probably one of them he's a native - and he is a good safety although I'm not convinced better than the guy he replaced (Ward) but the margin isn't very big.
Joe Thomas is my guy though, exemplifies "being a brown" more than anybody, and has been with us through it all.
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I dont think your giving Skrine quite the credit he deserves. Imo he's one of the hardest working cb's in the leauge. Ive seen alot of shit said about him from the day we got him, and hes definitely earned alot of it, hes come a long way too. Not too many #2 cb's in the leauge id give buster up for.
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I dont think your giving Skrine quite the credit he deserves. Imo he's one of the hardest working cb's in the leauge. Ive seen alot of shit said about him from the day we got him, and hes definitely earned alot of it, hes come a long way too. Not too many #2 cb's in the leauge id give buster up for.
I dont think your giving Skrine quite the credit he deserves. Imo he's one of the hardest working cb's in the leauge. Ive seen alot of shit said about him from the day we got him, and hes definitely earned alot of it, hes come a long way too. Not too many #2 cb's in the leauge id give buster up for.
He's improved sizably every season, his biggest limiting factor is his size. We have a very good slot corner in Williams, and pretty good depth including Justin Gilbert
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I can't say l'm bowled over by Whitner. Maybe he's playing better than l think he is, but l kinda consider him just above McQ in the "least favorite free agent signing this year" category. And for what it's worth, l'm quite happy with our FAs this year. Best group in a while.
The whole "Hitner" thing was kinda corny to me, unless you can really back it up.
I mean, the Browns have had 2 players with the last name Mack in my lifetime, and l don't recall either exploiting their name like that, and that's a totally exploitable name for a football player! You don't even have to remove any letters.
That shit's for the fans.
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I can't say l'm bowled over by Whitner. Maybe he's playing better than l think he is, but l kinda consider him just above McQ in the "least favorite free agent signing this year" category. And for what it's worth, l'm quite happy with our FAs this year. Best group in a while.
The whole "Hitner" thing was kinda corny to me, unless you can really back it up.
I mean, the Browns have had 2 players with the last name Mack in my lifetime, and l don't recall either exploiting their name like that, and that's a totally exploitable name for a football player! You don't even have to remove any letters.
That shit's for the fans.
He dropped a pick 6 last week and on the same drive blew his coverage for the falcons first TD. But overall he's been pretty good. I think TJ ward is better though, but not a huge gap.I can't say l'm bowled over by Whitner. Maybe he's playing better than l think he is, but l kinda consider him just above McQ in the "least favorite free agent signing this year" category. And for what it's worth, l'm quite happy with our FAs this year. Best group in a while.
The whole "Hitner" thing was kinda corny to me, unless you can really back it up.
I mean, the Browns have had 2 players with the last name Mack in my lifetime, and l don't recall either exploiting their name like that, and that's a totally exploitable name for a football player! You don't even have to remove any letters.
That shit's for the fans.
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George C said:
Definitely about Toronto.
He is a total asshole. It's like rubbing Clevelands faces in the Baltimore Ravens deal. Like praising Art Modell and his move that hurt you guys, and cost Cleveland two SB rings and three years without the Browns.
He was calling the Bills the future Toronto Bills etc. when Bon Jovi was gathering momentum, just to hurt this community. We are not as big as Cleveland, so if we lost the Bills, there would be no second chance.
How would you guys react to that? So I don't want to hear any support for that asshole, or it makes you guys total hypocrites.
Trust me, he'll probably get the total treatment, and he may be enough of a reason the Bills will be extra motivated.
Pure asshole, and that's why he's not in SF. He will talk himself out of your locker room soon enough.
He's originally pissed because Buffalo let him walk and didn't offer him a contract. He wanted corner money from Ralph. Got the door instead.
Not a locker room guy.
Writes a lot of checks his body can't cash. The talent around him makes him look better than he is.
The guy is an idiot folks, don't fall in love with him. He can make plays and is a decent safety, but don't trust his play when it's the money rounds.
If he gets caught alone around here after the game, he might not be in one piece ever again.
Also, pick the guy on the Browns that you would have the most respect for on and off the field. A family man who is humble, doesn't talk shit for any reason, and someone who has Clevelands back. Someone who is totally beloved.
That's Fred Jackson for western NY.
It was a random tweet. And the Bills aren't leaving. Lighten up, Francis.
Having said that...didn't like it in July. Don't like it now. But we also don't know the context and his true intentions when he sent them. Its why twitter is stupid. And why Whitner was stupid for putting a random thought out there.
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