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  • onefellswoop7 onefellswoop7O
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    onefellswoop7O onefellswoop7 wrote on last edited by onefellswoop7
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    Sage Rosenfels-QB-Texans Feb. 23 - 1:22 pm et

    The Houston Chronicle reports that the Vikings are on the verge of acquiring Sage Rosenfels from the Texans in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick.

    This trade was nearly made last year, but Houston balked when the Vikes offered only a third-round choice. The Texans wanted a second-rounder. Rosenfels, 31 in March, would immediately become the favorite to start in Minnesota if the deal is completed. The aggressive passer is considered a strong fit for the West Coast offense coach Brad Childress runs.

    Source: Houston Chronicle

    Related: Vikings

    www.rotoworld.com

    Looks like we may be one less team in the Anderson sweepstakes. I didn't have the Vikes as high on the possibility list as some but...

    This will play a large role in what DA ends up being worth.

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      W WPB Dawg Fan wrote on last edited by
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      WCO = NO DA

      The teams most likely and STILL out there are:

      Detroit

      Tampa Bay

      NY Jets

      Some other like SF, St. Louis (but I don't see them cutting Bulger) and KC are still in the running.

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      • W WPB Dawg Fan

        WCO = NO DA

        The teams most likely and STILL out there are:

        Detroit

        Tampa Bay

        NY Jets

        Some other like SF, St. Louis (but I don't see them cutting Bulger) and KC are still in the running.

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        LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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        @wpb-dawg-fan said:

        WCO = NO DA

        The teams most likely and STILL out there are:

        Detroit

        Tampa Bay

        NY Jets

        Some other like SF, St. Louis (but I don't see them cutting Bulger) and KC are still in the running.

        ...and don't forget one other team......CLEVELAND

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          N Nicksilvy wrote on last edited by
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          WCO = NO DA

          CLEVELAND = WCO (ish)

          CLEVELAND = NO DA

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          • listercat listercatL
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            listercatL listercat wrote on last edited by
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            It seems no one wants DA....we could offer him a job cutting the grass in Berea I guess

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            • LumberghL Lumbergh

              @wpb-dawg-fan said:

              WCO = NO DA

              The teams most likely and STILL out there are:

              Detroit

              Tampa Bay

              NY Jets

              Some other like SF, St. Louis (but I don't see them cutting Bulger) and KC are still in the running.

              ...and don't forget one other team......CLEVELAND

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              LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13 wrote on last edited by LCDawgFan13
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              @lumbergh said:

              ...and don't forget one other team......CLEVELAND

              Sorry Lums, but one of these days you are going to pull your head out of your ass and realize that DA's days with the Browns are over. Don't worry, you'll be able to move with him!

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                DrunkandstoopidD Drunkandstoopid wrote on last edited by
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                I was pulling for him to be traded last off season, but Cleveland wanted him and gave him pretty good money. The next few weeks should be interesting. I still think DA will be gone, a veteran QB will be brought in for "competition" and probably end up starting, but if DA's still around in a few months that means there's not a lot of confidence in BQ.

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                • DrunkandstoopidD Drunkandstoopid

                  I was pulling for him to be traded last off season, but Cleveland wanted him and gave him pretty good money. The next few weeks should be interesting. I still think DA will be gone, a veteran QB will be brought in for "competition" and probably end up starting, but if DA's still around in a few months that means there's not a lot of confidence in BQ.

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                  W WPB Dawg Fan wrote on last edited by
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                  @drunkandstoopid said:

                  ...but if DA's still around in a few months that means there's not a lot of confidence in BQ.

                  Or that they just couldn't get the kind of compensation for him that warranted eating $5M and still needing to sign a backup.

                  Still, I think he goes for a high 2nd rounder.

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                    GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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                    Its starting to look to me more like DA is going to be staying with the browns...either that or mankok is doing a really nice posturing job..

                    I like mangini still think DA is trainable with good solid coaching/tudoring and a firm ruleset about how much is to much or not enough and where the bench is if either happen to much in one game..

                    Having 2 great quarterbacks could decide the difference in the season especially if we dont replace frail-e at center and if we dont add depth to our WR corps.

                    I like the idea of a quarterback competition as long as its done fair and with honest assessment it would be nice to know for sure that whoever gets the start was genuinely thought to be the better man to fit the plan while still having having a hungry backup waiting for their chance to shine..

                    I think bq wins the competition but only because he is a faster starter possesses stronger leadership abilities and will look more impressive in the short run of a training camp and preseason competition..

                    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                      Its starting to look to me more like DA is going to be staying with the browns...either that or mankok is doing a really nice posturing job..

                      I like mangini still think DA is trainable with good solid coaching/tudoring and a firm ruleset about how much is to much or not enough and where the bench is if either happen to much in one game..

                      Having 2 great quarterbacks could decide the difference in the season especially if we dont replace frail-e at center and if we dont add depth to our WR corps.

                      I like the idea of a quarterback competition as long as its done fair and with honest assessment it would be nice to know for sure that whoever gets the start was genuinely thought to be the better man to fit the plan while still having having a hungry backup waiting for their chance to shine..

                      I think bq wins the competition but only because he is a faster starter possesses stronger leadership abilities and will look more impressive in the short run of a training camp and preseason competition..

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                      W WPB Dawg Fan wrote on last edited by
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                      @gips said:

                      Its starting to look to me more like DA is going to be staying with the browns...either that or mankok is doing a really nice posturing job..

                      I like mangini still think DA is trainable with good solid coaching/tudoring and a firm ruleset about how much is to much or not enough and where the bench is if either happen to much in one game..

                      Having 2 great quarterbacks could decide the difference in the season especially if we dont replace frail-e at center and if we dont add depth to our WR corps.

                      I like the idea of a quarterback competition as long as its done fair and with honest assessment it would be nice to know for sure that whoever gets the start was genuinely thought to be the better man to fit the plan while still having having a hungry backup waiting for their chance to shine..

                      I think bq wins the competition but only because he is a faster starter possesses stronger leadership abilities and will look more impressive..

                      I'll be honest...if we don't get at least a mid 2nd...I would prefer keeping him. Decent backup...we still have a manageable amount of cap for the QB position...and who knows what the year will bring.

                      But if we get a mid 2nd or better...I want the pick. We have too much to put together to be hording value like that.

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                        @gips said:

                        Its starting to look to me more like DA is going to be staying with the browns...either that or mankok is doing a really nice posturing job..

                        I like mangini still think DA is trainable with good solid coaching/tudoring and a firm ruleset about how much is to much or not enough and where the bench is if either happen to much in one game..

                        Having 2 great quarterbacks could decide the difference in the season especially if we dont replace frail-e at center and if we dont add depth to our WR corps.

                        I like the idea of a quarterback competition as long as its done fair and with honest assessment it would be nice to know for sure that whoever gets the start was genuinely thought to be the better man to fit the plan while still having having a hungry backup waiting for their chance to shine..

                        I think bq wins the competition but only because he is a faster starter possesses stronger leadership abilities and will look more impressive..

                        I'll be honest...if we don't get at least a mid 2nd...I would prefer keeping him. Decent backup...we still have a manageable amount of cap for the QB position...and who knows what the year will bring.

                        But if we get a mid 2nd or better...I want the pick. We have too much to put together to be hording value like that.

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                        GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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                        @wpb-dawg-fan said:

                        I'll be honest...if we don't get at least a mid 2nd...I would prefer keeping him. Decent backup...we still have a manageable amount of cap for the QB position...and who knows what the year will bring.

                        But if we get a mid 2nd or better...I want the pick. We have too much to put together to be hording value like that.

                        True that..a second rounder is to tempting for all but lummy but a 2nd rounder for DA looks like it may be hard to get...

                        We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                          @gips said:

                          Its starting to look to me more like DA is going to be staying with the browns...either that or mankok is doing a really nice posturing job..

                          I like mangini still think DA is trainable with good solid coaching/tudoring and a firm ruleset about how much is to much or not enough and where the bench is if either happen to much in one game..

                          Having 2 great quarterbacks could decide the difference in the season especially if we dont replace frail-e at center and if we dont add depth to our WR corps.

                          I like the idea of a quarterback competition as long as its done fair and with honest assessment it would be nice to know for sure that whoever gets the start was genuinely thought to be the better man to fit the plan while still having having a hungry backup waiting for their chance to shine..

                          I think bq wins the competition but only because he is a faster starter possesses stronger leadership abilities and will look more impressive..

                          I'll be honest...if we don't get at least a mid 2nd...I would prefer keeping him. Decent backup...we still have a manageable amount of cap for the QB position...and who knows what the year will bring.

                          But if we get a mid 2nd or better...I want the pick. We have too much to put together to be hording value like that.

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                          Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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                          @wpb-dawg-fan said:

                          I'll be honest...if we don't get at least a mid 2nd...I would prefer keeping him. .

                          How about one of Detroit's 3rd rounders....#65? or #82

                          I'd take #65. Still getting a pretty darn good football player at #65. Antoine Caldwell, Connor Barwin, Rashad Jennings, Derry Beckwith, Jason Phillips, Jason Watkins, Scott McKillop, Cody Brown....Most of these guys will be available at #65 and some at #82.

                          Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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                          • LumberghL Lumbergh

                            @wpb-dawg-fan said:

                            WCO = NO DA

                            The teams most likely and STILL out there are:

                            Detroit

                            Tampa Bay

                            NY Jets

                            Some other like SF, St. Louis (but I don't see them cutting Bulger) and KC are still in the running.

                            ...and don't forget one other team......CLEVELAND

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                            FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                            @lumbergh said:

                            ...and don't forget one other team......CLEVELAND

                            They aren't exactly fighting over your boyfriend Loverboy. Don't look now but DA's exchange value is less than Sage Rosenfels and heading for less than Charlie Frye and Luke McCown. Thatta boy!!!

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                              L lemosley01 wrote on last edited by
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                              The real story is...Sage Rosenfels? As your starter?

                              Childress must WANT to get fired.

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                                @shepwrite said:

                                Just read a blurb that Anderson is telling everyone around him that he does NOT expect to be a Brown next season.

                                A Big if....but IF Detroit was smart...they would pay Anderson as stop gap save 35 mill in guaranteed money for a QB that has never taken an NFL snap, get Jason Smith at LT, and Best player available at 20 and ship #33 to us. Huge benefit for both teams. Then we could get OrakpoOLB,Wood ©and Delmas or R. Johnson or chung at #36(S) or even Best RB available...gosh we have soooo many holes!! ILB???

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                                  FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                                  @shepwrite said:

                                  Just read a blurb that Anderson is telling everyone around him that he does NOT expect to be a Brown next season.

                                  Shep,

                                  In all honesty - I can't see him going to the NY Jets. What Defense caught the most TD passes from DA in 2008? Ryan's Ravens so what would make him leave his mind to overcommit to OUR version of Kye Boller when he can snag the other version from Balt without LOSING exchange value or much cap space?

                                  I don't see it. And Detroit seems primed to draft a QB in round 1 and keep Culpepper there.

                                  I WISH it was as easy DA wanting to play somewhere else but - he's got price tags that exceed his skills. He hasn't played good football since November of 2007. The Rosenfels thing is a reality check as to how DA's value is really perceived out there. I've been wrong before though and I'd LOVE to be wrong now.

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                                    L lambdo wrote on last edited by
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                                    On rotoworld it's announced as a 4th rounder..there is good value there for the vikes to snag him for a 4...Although prolly means we are looking at a 3 for DA

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