Jonathan Paul Manziel
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His ability to scramble and pocket presence alone makes us a better team.
c'mon. he might scamble and get hurt. how does that make us better? anyone can scramble. pocket presence? ok. we saw what 2 mins of the guy? don't start your shit. you know how badly it can end for you. like every other 'stance' you've made this year.
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ManzielSucks said:
With the Bills D-Line starters in he gets sacked and fumbles into the endzone...
It was ruled an incomplete pass you dumb fuck. He got right back up and fired a strike to Austin.
Quit being mad Johnny fucked your old lady loser.
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Faded said:
Manziel is the reason this could be a more interesting year as a Cleveland Browns fan than has typically been the case lately. He may or may not make it, but how long do you go with what you saw today before you give him his shot. I never believed the Browns had enough offense this year to make the playoffs, even though they were winning. Yards get tougher at the end of the year.
For all his high school heroics, nobody really knew what they had at A&M in Manziel until he played. He's a gamer. Could be fun to watch.
you still didn't answer my question. why did you join the browns forum today?
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ManzielSucks said:
That is an overreaction since when the Bills starters were in JF fumbled into the endzone.
The fumble was caused by a miscommunication with the snap, which is to be expected with a rookie coming in on the road for his first significant action.
And by the way the end result was an incomplete pass. Hoyer would have lost 10 yards by taking the sack.
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His ability to scramble and pocket presence alone makes us a better team.
c'mon. he might scamble and get hurt. how does that make us better? anyone can scramble. pocket presence? ok. we saw what 2 mins of the guy? don't start your shit. you know how badly it can end for you. like every other 'stance' you've made this year.
c'mon. he might scamble and get hurt. how does that make us better? anyone can scramble. pocket presence? ok. we saw what 2 mins of the guy? don't start your shit. you know how badly it can end for you. like every other 'stance' you've made this year.
1. He might scramble and get hurt? I might win the fucking lottery.
2. Anyone can scramble? No, see Brian Hoyer.
3. Hoyer's time is over, period. Accept it with a little dignity.
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ManzielSucks said:
With the Bills D-Line starters in he gets sacked and fumbles into the endzone...
It was ruled an incomplete pass you dumb fuck. He got right back up and fired a strike to Austin.
Quit being mad Johnny fucked your old lady loser.
It was ruled an incomplete pass you dumb fuck. He got right back up and fired a strike to Austin.
Quit being mad Johnny fucked your old lady loser.
you are fucking hilarious. let's see how you spin it after he starts and loses. lol.
i say draft mariota. HA!
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His ability to scramble and pocket presence alone makes us a better team.
c'mon. he might scamble and get hurt. how does that make us better? anyone can scramble. pocket presence? ok. we saw what 2 mins of the guy? don't start your shit. you know how badly it can end for you. like every other 'stance' you've made this year.
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It's simple...
MANZIEL OPENS UP THE OFFENSE, Brian Hoyer doesn't not. Period, end of story.
No linebackers have to worry about spying on Brian Hoyer, dude has no legs at all.
Manziel scoring that TD was proof this offense can be explosive. I drive, 80 yards.
It's simple...
MANZIEL OPENS UP THE OFFENSE, Brian Hoyer doesn't not. Period, end of story.
No linebackers have to worry about spying on Brian Hoyer, dude has no legs at all.
Manziel scoring that TD was proof this offense can be explosive. I drive, 80 yards.
Would you like to wager that if JM starts next week, then it will be with a substantially reduced playbook?
Over/Under is 25%...
As for holding LBs... that is what the play action is for. But to do that you need to have some running game from the guys that are supposed to run.
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It was ruled an incomplete pass you dumb fuck. He got right back up and fired a strike to Austin.
Quit being mad Johnny fucked your old lady loser.
you are fucking hilarious. let's see how you spin it after he starts and loses. lol.
i say draft mariota. HA!
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Hoyer is finished, accept it.
Pettine made the call, and Manziel answered, some of you hanging on at this point are just embarrassing yourselves.
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ManzielSucks said:
With the Bills D-Line starters in he gets sacked and fumbles into the endzone...
It was ruled an incomplete pass you dumb fuck. He got right back up and fired a strike to Austin.
Quit being mad Johnny fucked your old lady loser.
It was ruled an incomplete pass you dumb fuck. He got right back up and fired a strike to Austin.
Quit being mad Johnny fucked your old lady loser.
Don't get too carried away lover boy. Manziel had a nice TD drive, but he had very few pass attempts and one of them should have been intercepted. No need to get all up on his jock until you see more, which he may very well get the start next week. We lost the game...If playing Manziel for 4 quarters would have changed the outcome is yet to be seen.
The fumble was caused by a miscommunication with the snap, which is to be expected with a rookie coming in on the road for his first significant action.
Why are you still here?
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The Manziel are haters are so mad he's better than Hoyer. So much anger and jealousy Johnny has been handed the keys.
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Hoyer is finished, accept it.
Pettine made the call, and Manziel answered, some of you hanging on at this point are just embarrassing yourselves.
Hoyer is finished, accept it.
Pettine made the call, and Manziel answered, some of you hanging on at this point are just embarrassing yourselves.
Possibly...
I have to admit that if nothing else, you are an expert in "embarrassing yourself". So you should know it when you see it.
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Why not?
I agree,...why not? I'd start him the rest of the way. Hoyer is a average QB who has done a nice job but isn't the type of guy you can call a top 1/3 QB. Manziell might not be either, but we need to get a read on this situation.
Hoyer is free at the end of the season. We need to know what we have in JF so we can make informed decisions. Do we resign Hoyer? Do we roll with JF, or do we use our picks to grab another QB?
As far as I am concerned, we know what we have in Hoyer. He is a great kid, a nice guy, great story, but a bottom tier starting QB. I don't make a big push to sign the guy unless it looks like he is better than JF.
We have to have a pretty good idea of what we have in Johnny as we exit this season. If not we will simply be throwing darts in the dark headed in to next season.
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The Manziel are haters are so mad he's better than Hoyer. So much anger and jealousy Johnny has been handed the keys.
The Manziel are haters are so mad he's better than Hoyer. So much anger and jealousy Johnny has been handed the keys.
I don't see that from anyone
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there are manziel crackers for sale on a different topic thread. if you post 1000 manziel love posts you get a year supply when you buy one cracker!!
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One fucking drive and he goes 80 yards, makes great throws, and scores a rad ass running TD and people want to go back to Hoyer?
What fucking game were you guys watching?
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The Manziel are haters are so mad he's better than Hoyer. So much anger and jealousy Johnny has been handed the keys.
The Manziel are haters are so mad he's better than Hoyer. So much anger and jealousy Johnny has been handed the keys.
Walter you're back in full form...everybody says Hoyer has sucked and has gotten worse and worse. No doubt about it. It's pretty likely Johnny starts next week (and I don't see anybody proclaiming otherwise), but you can't proclaim anything about him other than he does indeed have physical ability and a good arm. We need to see him play more.
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walter is a politician obviously because he can spin any story his way. "should've drafted watkins.....WAH!!!" should've drafted mack....WAH!!"
a neutral fan: "but walter watkins had only 5 catches for 11 yards with his longest being 5 yards."
walter: "i never wanted watkins. i just wanted the browns to draft everybody else i can think of that might be better than who we drafted. i'll figure it out by the end of the year and come back and proclaim my victory!"
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Why not?
Because the AFC North is still in play and, possibly, a playoff berth.
With Hoyer or despite Hoyer (take your pick), the team has won 7 games.
If they stumble the next week - especially the next two weeks - I believe the plug will be pulled and Hoyer's dream of being a starter for the Browns - or for any NFL team - won't be achieved.
I give the guy credit. While I never believed he would be an - even - average NFL QB - I know nothing about evaluating such things. The Browns' brass, however, saw Hoyer and drafted JF. They do know a lot more than me.
In short, ride the Hoyer train as long as there is light at the end of the tunnel (playoffs). If, and when, this occurs, pull the plug and insert JF (for better or worse).
Just my 2-cents.
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