Jonathan Paul Manziel

thenew23

3 points in 3 quarters...?

5 INTs in the last 2 games...?

Manziel might not "light it up" and will probably make some rookie mistakes, but he can't be much worse than Hoyer has been the last couple games... I say start him...

Browns149

@walterwhite said:

Pre injury RG3 had a rocket

Post injury and he barley steps into his throws.

he was injured in college

SO he had a good arm when he was a freshman in college?

LBC mike

so with the season on the line we want a rookie in? make rookie mistakes?

Browns149

@lbc-mike said:
so with the season on the line we want a rookie in? make rookie mistakes?

The season was on the line today, and the veteran Hoyer shit the bed

The only way the Browns make the playoffs is they win out. 10-6 will not win the division or get a wild card with out bad conference record

browns23

@lbc-mike said:
so with the season on the line we want a rookie in? make rookie mistakes?

At this point it is whether the coaching staff thinks the mistakes Hoyer have been making are worse than the mistakes Manziel will make (which he undoubtedly will, can't deny that one JFF fanboys). Hoyer has put Pettine in an absolutely awful situation with his recent play though. Glad the decision isn't on me.

hoorta

ManzielSucks said:
This is it. The beginning of the end for Pettine and company.

Because you're certain, based on your screen name Manziel is the second coming of Spurgon Wynn?

@everlastingxxx said:
Manziel should have started day one, so asking the wrong person.

You didn't ask Johnny he wasn't ready in September. Now may well be a different story.

@walterwhite said:

It's simple...

MANZIEL OPENS UP THE OFFENSE, Brian Hoyer doesn't not. Period, end of story.

No linebackers have to worry about spying on Brian Hoyer, dude has no legs at all.

Manziel scoring that TD was proof this offense can be explosive. I drive, 80 yards.

Right Walter, ONE DRIVE against a defense that had the luxury of playing soft.

@walterwhite said:

It was ruled an incomplete pass you dumb fuck. He got right back up and fired a strike to Austin.

Quit being mad Johnny fucked your old lady loser.

Um, horrible call. BTW, what did JFF do after the got stripped, laid there like a two bit whore.

@walterwhite said:
The Manziel are haters are so mad he's better than Hoyer. So much anger and jealousy Johnny has been handed the keys.

No Walter, not mad at all. Hoyer has stunk for 2 & 3\4 games. Pettine decided it was time- and I happen to agree.

MHO is Pettine knew once he put JFF in there's no going back. You could tell by Hoyer's body language on the sidelines he knew he blew his last shot.

jrb12711

Again everyone, this isn't a long time pro in a slump. You can see plain as day that Hoyer's confidence is SHOT. Re-watch the game and look his face after all the crappy throws. He has the same deer in the headlight look that Shurmer had during those shitty years. When you lose that edge at the QB position it's over.

BaconHound

@browns149 said:

he was injured in college

SO he had a good arm when he was a freshman in college?

NEXT

RG3 had a cannon going into last year, sometimes you're just wrong, it's ok.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/24/cosell-deems-rg3-a-superior-arm-talent-and-natural-passer-to-luck/

bbedward

@walterwhite said:

Pre injury RG3 had a rocket

Post injury and he barley steps into his throws.

Seems like it. Coming out I thought he had a cannon and we saw it his rookie year...

All I've seen from him last year and this year is wobbly ducks. Wobbly spirals that are off the mark, little zip, and not much down the field. His mechanics seem to have degraded post-injury for whatever reason. Too many subway clubs, maybe.

miktoxic

@the-cysko-kid said:
Everyone is eager to see what Johnny can do and if you say you're not you're a liar. Maybe he's great maybe he's shit. But you want to see for yourself don't you?

yes of course. i would think that the leash got tighter on hoyer today the more he was sketchy considering that is in the back of everyone's minds from haslam to farmer to pettine. but no one made that call except pettine.

now i watched dilfer question pettine on espn after today's afternoons games were done. he basically said that it was still hoyer's team and blah blah blah. hey i'm a cleveland brown's qb supporter. doesn't matter who it is, just win. now because manziel looked good in 1.3 drives lead me to believe he is the heir apparent? hell no. but if hoyer can't handle the heat get him the F out the kitchen.

JAFBF

Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 3m 3 minutes ago #Browns games v #Colts & #Bengals have been flexed to FOX. No change from 1 pm kickoffs.

Wonder if this will have a National impact - everyone's been waiting to see JFF . . . I just want to win.

Tour2ma

"Flexed to Fox" means national game?

D Bone

Sounds like it

Browns149

@tour2ma said:
"Flexed to Fox" means national game?

How is a game between 2 AFC teams on FOX?

Not that I care, I will be at the game

miktoxic

that'd be nice for a change.

hey walter's right. when JF plays everybody wins.........

JAFBF

Kind of my thoughts that it'll be picked up Nationwide, especially for Markets that don't have a definitive early game.

WalterWhite

The bar I was at in North Hollywood (Big Wangs) went APESHIT when Manziel went in.

browns23

@walterwhite said:
The bar I was at in North Hollywood (Big Wangs) went APESHIT when Manziel went in.

Sounds like a gay bar, Manziel is much cuter than Hoyer...

Browns149

@walterwhite said:
The bar I was at in North Hollywood (Big Wangs) went APESHIT when Manziel went in.

what happened when he dropped and fumbled the snap and then he picked it up and got SLAMMED

WalterWhite

@browns23 said:
Sounds like a gay bar, Manziel is much cuter than Hoyer...

What? That was the fucking lamest and corniest shit ever.