Thank you Hoyer
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well if anything i'd start manziel to let him have this as his job application. no strings pulled no if ands or buts. whatever package they give him let him have his shot at this until the end of the year. hey if the kid wins games then we got something. if teams catch up to him and he's unremarkable like hoyer has been for the last 4 weeks then farmer has to look to the draft.............again.
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Faded said:
Even for those that thought Manziel should have started from the beginning, you have to give it up for Hoyer. He found a way a win to several games that I wouldn't have given the Browns very good odds in, including a game last week which clearly was less than his best effort.
There's no guarantee by any stretch that Manziel will do better, but how often do you have a player with such an intriguing upside? I know this isn't college, but there were times when the guy was just magic at A&M. I want to get to watch that every week. If Hoyer really looked like he was poised to grind it out to a playoff berth, then you'd have to leave him in. He's absolutely someone for whom you'd like to root. But if he falls short, then you've had one of the most intriguing players to come out of college in recent memory take hardly a snap all year, and you don't even know what you have going into next season.
Props to Hoyer. He showed he absolutely belongs in the league and can be successful. He handled the circus with grace and professionalism (and so did Manziel).
I don't know what convoluted game you're trying to play here Stockton but I don't like it
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Couch sucked for 3 years and only got worse
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hey 149 couch COULD have been great if he had this line (with mack) and the teams weapons.
kid had no support and played his heart out just to get killed and booed for getting killed.
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well if anything i'd start manziel to let him have this as his job application. no strings pulled no if ands or buts. whatever package they give him let him have his shot at this until the end of the year. hey if the kid wins games then we got something. if teams catch up to him and he's unremarkable like hoyer has been for the last 4 weeks then farmer has to look to the draft.............again.
well if anything i'd start manziel to let him have this as his job application. no strings pulled no if ands or buts. whatever package they give him let him have his shot at this until the end of the year. hey if the kid wins games then we got something. if teams catch up to him and he's unremarkable like hoyer has been for the last 4 weeks then farmer has to look to the draft.............again.
That's why I was calling for him after the Jags game to "get his chance" cause the front office and Farmer won't give him only 4 games. There in lies the problem, QB in a contract year and "their guy" being a 1st rounder. Everyone who thought that Manziel was gonna sit behind Hoyer like Rodgers did behind Favre was delusional. This is the reality when you draft a QB in the first round and he is sitting behind a career back-up game manager. I prayed we had another Kurt Warner but Hoyer doesn't have that kind of arm strength.
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well if anything i'd start manziel to let him have this as his job application. no strings pulled no if ands or buts. whatever package they give him let him have his shot at this until the end of the year. hey if the kid wins games then we got something. if teams catch up to him and he's unremarkable like hoyer has been for the last 4 weeks then farmer has to look to the draft.............again.
That's why I was calling for him after the Jags game to "get his chance" cause the front office and Farmer won't give him only 4 games. There in lies the problem, QB in a contract year and "their guy" being a 1st rounder. Everyone who thought that Manziel was gonna sit behind Hoyer like Rodgers did behind Favre was delusional. This is the reality when you draft a QB in the first round and he is sitting behind a career back-up game manager. I prayed we had another Kurt Warner but Hoyer doesn't have that kind of arm strength.
That's why I was calling for him after the Jags game to "get his chance" cause the front office and Farmer won't give him only 4 games. There in lies the problem, QB in a contract year and "their guy" being a 1st rounder. Everyone who thought that Manziel was gonna sit behind Hoyer like Rodgers did behind Favre was delusional. This is the reality when you draft a QB in the first round and he is sitting behind a career back-up game manager. I prayed we had another Kurt Warner but Hoyer doesn't have that kind of arm strength.
No, but the Browns had to do their do diligence to see if Brian was the next Kurt. Turns out he's not, we now know that and we still have a winning record and are in the playoff hunt, all while Johnny got to watch and learn for as long as possible.
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That's why I was calling for him after the Jags game to "get his chance" cause the front office and Farmer won't give him only 4 games. There in lies the problem, QB in a contract year and "their guy" being a 1st rounder. Everyone who thought that Manziel was gonna sit behind Hoyer like Rodgers did behind Favre was delusional. This is the reality when you draft a QB in the first round and he is sitting behind a career back-up game manager. I prayed we had another Kurt Warner but Hoyer doesn't have that kind of arm strength.
No, but the Browns had to do their do diligence to see if Brian was the next Kurt. Turns out he's not, we now know that and we still have a winning record and are in the playoff hunt, all while Johnny got to watch and learn for as long as possible.
No, but the Browns had to do their do diligence to see if Brian was the next Kurt. Turns out he's not, we now know that and we still have a winning record and are in the playoff hunt, all while Johnny got to watch and learn for as long as possible.
The problem is if he looks like a turd, he'll still be back for next year. If he looked like a turd for 10 games then maybe you scrap him and move forward.
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Brian,
To date you're 3 for 3 in the 2014 Browns QB Derby and you may go 4 for 4, but you are making it very hard to do so.
Just when your footwork starts to shape back up, now your head has gone south.
Get it together, son.
But if it's too late, thanks for the ride...
Brian,
To date you're 3 for 3 in the 2014 Browns QB Derby and you may go 4 for 4, but you are making it very hard to do so.
Just when your footwork starts to shape back up, now your head has gone south.
Get it together, son.
But if it's too late, thanks for the ride...
MHO Tour is with this game Hoyer's ship just sailed. There's no going back. The Home Town hero story was great while it lasted.
That's why I was calling for him after the Jags game to "get his chance" cause the front office and Farmer won't give him only 4 games. There in lies the problem, QB in a contract year and "their guy" being a 1st rounder. Everyone who thought that Manziel was gonna sit behind Hoyer like Rodgers did behind Favre was delusional. This is the reality when you draft a QB in the first round and he is sitting behind a career back-up game manager. I prayed we had another Kurt Warner but Hoyer doesn't have that kind of arm strength.
Not that simple. There's no way you bench a starting qb while he's winning.
MHO is Hoyer has adequate arm strength- as long as he's not making mistakes. Well, the mistakes caught up with him. I don't suffer from short term amnesia that in a lot of earlier games, Hoyer tossed some passes that should have been intercepted- but weren't. Last few games the defenders didn't drop the opportunities Brian presented them with.
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hey 149 couch COULD have been great if he had this line (with mack) and the teams weapons.
kid had no support and played his heart out just to get killed and booed for getting killed.
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hey 149 couch COULD have been great if he had this line (with mack) and the teams weapons.
kid had no support and played his heart out just to get killed and booed for getting killed.
hey 149 couch COULD have been great if he had this line (with mack) and the teams weapons.
kid had no support and played his heart out just to get killed and booed for getting killed.
For once we agree,
Tim Couch fell victim to no offensive line, weapons, and dipshit fuck dick coaches and GM's
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hey 149 couch COULD have been great if he had this line (with mack) and the teams weapons.
kid had no support and played his heart out just to get killed and booed for getting killed.
For once we agree,
Tim Couch fell victim to no offensive line, weapons, and dipshit fuck dick coaches and GM's
For once we agree,
Tim Couch fell victim to no offensive line, weapons, and dipshit fuck dick coaches and GM's
And he the IQ of a turnip
Bad combo
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
I don't think you can say TC would have been good had he had the line, weapons, etc. But he may have not had a fair chance like many who fall into the expansion team situation.
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turnips have brain cells
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For once we agree,
Tim Couch fell victim to no offensive line, weapons, and dipshit fuck dick coaches and GM's
And he the IQ of a turnip
Bad combo
And he the IQ of a turnip
Apparently you do too...
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Like this thread. Cleveland born guy that was in the stadium the final game before moving to Baltimore. he won more games than we anticipated and definitely doesn't deserve any bashing.
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