Jonathan Paul Manziel
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What I'm JFF!!! You can't do that to me!!! My ego just got crushed.
Seriously- you just going to lie there and weep? Maybe if you bothered to get up and look around- the ball just might have had a remote chance of still being in play.
Well he's more productive and he's now our starter so you should probably get behind him.
Well (JM)'s more productive and he's now our starter so you should probably get behind him.
An premature order to get in line from the single biggest basher of individual Browns players on the site.
Can't make shit like this up.
This just has to be preserved...
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3rd and 1 and you have Jamaal Charles, and you let Alex Smith try to throw it????????????
NFL playcallers are IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"He's been ready to play all year," Pettine told me flatly. "He's prepared like a starter all year, and he certainly showed today he was ready when he came in."
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Pettine: "Manziel is ready"
Actual Quote: "He's been ready to play all year," Pettine told me flatly. "He's prepared like a starter all year, and he certainly showed today he was ready when he came in."
Also in this post-game Pettine said:
- had to look at the tape;
- had to be careful drawing too much from one late drive against a "softened defense."
So there's that...
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"He's been ready to play all year," Pettine told me flatly. "He's prepared like a starter all year, and he certainly showed today he was ready when he came in."
"He's been ready to play all year," Pettine told me flatly. "He's prepared like a starter all year, and he certainly showed today he was ready when he came in."
If he starts, and goes 0-4 the Browns finish 7-9. Better then most people here thought. And we will see what he is
We know what Hoyer is
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There is a fucking elephant in the room in this thread and I'm just going to call it out...
Why do so many of you hate Manziel?
He's cocky as shit and doesn't conform to the rules set forward by deacons and elders. I think that's it.
The amount of Manziel haters within our own fan base is just disgusting and embarrassing.
I could give a fuck about his "behavior" after watching Weeden, McCoy, and Quinn who were boy scouts.
Give me some fucking edge and attitude.
Fuck the nice hero, I like the villain on our team.
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Not only does he start the game. He's gonna start our march to the SUPER BOWL BABY!!!
Calm down, one nice series does not a Super Bowl run make.
Sometime? I hope so.If he starts, and goes 0-4 the Browns finish 7-9. Better then most people here thought. And we will see what he is
We know what Hoyer is
7-9 is about what most thought. A few pundits had them at 4-12 or worse. I was hoping 8-8, and by all rights we should beat the Panthers. The F**king Bengals had to pull (what I thought) a shady maneuver to get the Bucs called for too many men on the field- after the play was run. Tampa would have won the game otherwise. Crap, Steelers and Ravens lost. It ain't over until it's over.
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There is a fucking elephant in the room in this thread and I'm just going to call it out...
Why do so many of you hate Manziel?
He's cocky as shit and doesn't conform to the rules set forward by deacons and elders. I think that's it.
The amount of Manziel haters within our own fan base is just disgusting and embarrassing.
I could give a fuck about his "behavior" after watching Weeden, McCoy, and Quinn who were boy scouts.
Give me some fucking edge and attitude.
Fuck the nice hero, I like the villain on our team.
There is a fucking elephant in the room in this thread and I'm just going to call it out...
Why do so many of you hate Manziel?
He's cocky as shit and doesn't conform to the rules set forward by deacons and elders. I think that's it.
The amount of Manziel haters within our own fan base is just disgusting and embarrassing.
I could give a fuck about his "behavior" after watching Weeden, McCoy, and Quinn who were boy scouts.
Give me some fucking edge and attitude.
Fuck the nice hero, I like the villain on our team.
I don't know what you're talking about.
It seems like the general consensus is Manziel should start next week. Except for the one guy with the username "ManzielSucks"
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walter walter walter...when are you ever going to understand how to take control of a room? you might have all the facts behind you but sometimes the sell in your pitch doesn't work because of your aggressive stance (which from week to week might change).
dude, you know i love you, i'm just speaking from experience here having 30+ in the ad game. you can't cram your personal feelings down the throats of those that don't want to hear it. you sell your approach with the pitch that it will make everything better at the same time ease the pain of all the intangibles.
you should wait 20 minutes after having your orgasm to post cuz i think your screen is filthy and you can't read what you type half the time. if you were to research the thread before posting and then be as smart as i know you are you'd come off a little closer to sane.
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Yes, Manziel must start. It's been too long since Hoyer has passed for a touchdown. Johnny is versatile to say the least and a winner. Look at the bright side, The Colts won't know what to expect next week. maybe Shanahan will have a nice package for Johnny. Also, the Colts defense is nothing to write home about.
I think we might surprise everybody including ourselves next week.
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Not only does he start the game. He's gonna start our march to the SUPER BOWL BABY!!!
Calm down, one nice series does not a Super Bowl run make.
Sometime? I hope so.If he starts, and goes 0-4 the Browns finish 7-9. Better then most people here thought. And we will see what he is
We know what Hoyer is
7-9 is about what most thought. A few pundits had them at 4-12 or worse. I was hoping 8-8, and by all rights we should beat the Panthers. The F**king Bengals had to pull (what I thought) a shady maneuver to get the Bucs called for too many men on the field- after the play was run. Tampa would have won the game otherwise. Crap, Steelers and Ravens lost. It ain't over until it's over.
Calm down, one nice series does not a Super Bowl run make.
Sometime? I hope so.7-9 is about what most thought. A few pundits had them at 4-12 or worse. I was hoping 8-8, and by all rights we should beat the Panthers. The F**king Bengals had to pull (what I thought) a shady maneuver to get the Bucs called for too many men on the field- after the play was run. Tampa would have won the game otherwise. Crap, Steelers and Ravens lost. It ain't over until it's over.
I watched that game today. The Bucs were all over the Bengals. They stopped Hill and Bernard and Intercepted Howdy Doody on the first play of the game. Then at the end Marvin Lewis threw a red flag with 26 seconds left. That's supposed to be illegal but they let him get away with it. So put 2 and 2 together you get The Fix Was In.
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"I like him, man," corner Joe Haden said, in an emptied out locker room. "I like him a lot. He has a really good work ethic. He's a good kid to be around in the locker room, he's positive, and he knows his role, and he's known his role on the team. He wasn't trying to be all out there. He's just learning."
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"I like him, man," corner Joe Haden said, in an emptied out locker room. "I like him a lot. He has a really good work ethic. He's a good kid to be around in the locker room, he's positive, and he knows his role, and he's known his role on the team. He wasn't trying to be all out there. He's just learning."
"I like him, man," corner Joe Haden said, in an emptied out locker room. "I like him a lot. He has a really good work ethic. He's a good kid to be around in the locker room, he's positive, and he knows his role, and he's known his role on the team. He wasn't trying to be all out there. He's just learning."
so aggie what did you gleen from that quote?
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"I like him, man," corner Joe Haden said, in an emptied out locker room. "I like him a lot. He has a really good work ethic. He's a good kid to be around in the locker room, he's positive, and he knows his role, and he's known his role on the team. He wasn't trying to be all out there. He's just learning."
"I like him, man," corner Joe Haden said, in an emptied out locker room. "I like him a lot. He has a really good work ethic. He's a good kid to be around in the locker room, he's positive, and he knows his role, and he's known his role on the team. He wasn't trying to be all out there. He's just learning."
Joe Thomas "I'm behind whoever will win us games".
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Hoorta, I'll tell you what I glean from haden's statement. First, you have no clue what you're talking about when you spout stupid shit like the following:
" True- I didn't want Manziel- because he'd be a distraction, among other things. Guess what? He's a distraction. FYI- there's a shit ton of people that don't like Manziel for the same reason I don't particularly care for him- as a person. Not the kind of guy I'd want to hang out with. There's a difference between liking a football player, and liking the person. Isn't about my personal opinion anymore- I can't kick Manziel off the team- and I have to hope he does well.
This had zero, zilch, nada to do with the fake JFF ID. I could care less about it. I do care about his conduct after he got drafted by the Browns however. F**cking liar. I'm all into football. sure. However, I (and some others) still think he's still got some growing up to do. Maybe he'd actually be starting if he had been in Berea working out instead of hanging out with Bieb-er."
I choose to believe Haden and Pettine, who actually spend time with Johnny. They seem to like him AND think he's pretty good.
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Hoorta, I'll tell you what I glean from haden's statement. First, you have no clue what you're talking about when you spout stupid shit like the following:
" True- I didn't want Manziel- because he'd be a distraction, among other things. Guess what? He's a distraction. FYI- there's a shit ton of people that don't like Manziel for the same reason I don't particularly care for him- as a person. Not the kind of guy I'd want to hang out with. There's a difference between liking a football player, and liking the person. Isn't about my personal opinion anymore- I can't kick Manziel off the team- and I have to hope he does well.
This had zero, zilch, nada to do with the fake JFF ID. I could care less about it. I do care about his conduct after he got drafted by the Browns however. F**cking liar. I'm all into football. sure. However, I (and some others) still think he's still got some growing up to do. Maybe he'd actually be starting if he had been in Berea working out instead of hanging out with Bieb-er."
I choose to believe Haden and Pettine, who actually spend time with Johnny. They seem to like him AND think he's pretty good.
Hoorta, I'll tell you what I glean from haden's statement. First, you have no clue what you're talking about when you spout stupid shit like the following:
" True- I didn't want Manziel- because he'd be a distraction, among other things. Guess what? He's a distraction. FYI- there's a shit ton of people that don't like Manziel for the same reason I don't particularly care for him- as a person. Not the kind of guy I'd want to hang out with. There's a difference between liking a football player, and liking the person. Isn't about my personal opinion anymore- I can't kick Manziel off the team- and I have to hope he does well.
This had zero, zilch, nada to do with the fake JFF ID. I could care less about it. I do care about his conduct after he got drafted by the Browns however. F**cking liar. I'm all into football. sure. However, I (and some others) still think he's still got some growing up to do. Maybe he'd actually be starting if he had been in Berea working out instead of hanging out with Bieb-er."
I choose to believe Haden and Pettine, who actually spend time with Johnny. They seem to like him AND think he's pretty good.
Great- I'll own it- I'm just a dumbass. Like I just posted, Joe Thomas is apparently behind Johnny too. Has nothing to do if Manziel is a good football player or not. If you condone his off field antics, fine- I don't have to. It's a f**king free country. Ray Lewis is going to be in the HOF- that doesn't mean I have to like him. Michael Vick will have a better career than Brian Hoyer- that doesn't mean I have to like him either. Josh Gordon is an immensely talented football player who happens to play for the Browns and isn't too smart about who he hangs out with, or what chemicals he chooses to ingest. He also set a couple of NFL records, haven't seen JFF do that yet. So tolerance for off field indiscretions is directly proportional to on field performance. I haven't forgotten Ravens fans showing up at games wearing Ray Rice jerseys this year. You bozos are apparently having comprehension problems with the difference between respect as a football player, and respect as a person. They're not mutually inclusive FYI.
Just wait though- the fickle fans of Cleveland will be more than happy to ride Manziel out of town on a rail should he play poorly- as fast as the Manzealots did to Hoyer. So if Johnny follows the career path of Joe Namath or Ken Stabler- it's going to be all well and good in Cleveland. Anything short of that- he's never going to win over a section of the fanbase. Take it to the bank.
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Hoorta, I'll tell you what I glean from haden's statement. First, you have no clue what you're talking about when you spout stupid shit like the following:
" True- I didn't want Manziel- because he'd be a distraction, among other things. Guess what? He's a distraction. FYI- there's a shit ton of people that don't like Manziel for the same reason I don't particularly care for him- as a person. Not the kind of guy I'd want to hang out with. There's a difference between liking a football player, and liking the person. Isn't about my personal opinion anymore- I can't kick Manziel off the team- and I have to hope he does well.
This had zero, zilch, nada to do with the fake JFF ID. I could care less about it. I do care about his conduct after he got drafted by the Browns however. F**cking liar. I'm all into football. sure. However, I (and some others) still think he's still got some growing up to do. Maybe he'd actually be starting if he had been in Berea working out instead of hanging out with Bieb-er."
I choose to believe Haden and Pettine, who actually spend time with Johnny. They seem to like him AND think he's pretty good.
Great- I'll own it- I'm just a dumbass. Like I just posted, Joe Thomas is apparently behind Johnny too. Has nothing to do if Manziel is a good football player or not. If you condone his off field antics, fine- I don't have to. It's a f**king free country. Ray Lewis is going to be in the HOF- that doesn't mean I have to like him. Michael Vick will have a better career than Brian Hoyer- that doesn't mean I have to like him either. Josh Gordon is an immensely talented football player who happens to play for the Browns and isn't too smart about who he hangs out with, or what chemicals he chooses to ingest. He also set a couple of NFL records, haven't seen JFF do that yet. So tolerance for off field indiscretions is directly proportional to on field performance. I haven't forgotten Ravens fans showing up at games wearing Ray Rice jerseys this year. You bozos are apparently having comprehension problems with the difference between respect as a football player, and respect as a person. They're not mutually inclusive FYI.
Just wait though- the fickle fans of Cleveland will be more than happy to ride Manziel out of town on a rail should he play poorly- as fast as the Manzealots did to Hoyer. So if Johnny follows the career path of Joe Namath or Ken Stabler- it's going to be all well and good in Cleveland. Anything short of that- he's never going to win over a section of the fanbase. Take it to the bank.
Great- I'll own it- I'm just a dumbass. Like I just posted, Joe Thomas is apparently behind Johnny too. Has nothing to do if Manziel is a good football player or not. If you condone his off field antics, fine- I don't have to. It's a f**king free country. Ray Lewis is going to be in the HOF- that doesn't mean I have to like him. Michael Vick will have a better career than Brian Hoyer- that doesn't mean I have to like him either. Josh Gordon is an immensely talented football player who happens to play for the Browns and isn't too smart about who he hangs out with, or what chemicals he chooses to ingest. He also set a couple of NFL records, haven't seen JFF do that yet. So tolerance for off field indiscretions is directly proportional to on field performance. I haven't forgotten Ravens fans showing up at games wearing Ray Rice jerseys this year. You bozos are apparently having comprehension problems with the difference between respect as a football player, and respect as a person. They're not mutually inclusive FYI.
Just wait though- the fickle fans of Cleveland will be more than happy to ride Manziel out of town on a rail should he play poorly- as fast as the Manzealots did to Hoyer. So if Johnny follows the career path of Joe Namath or Ken Stabler- it's going to be all well and good in Cleveland. Anything short of that- he's never going to win over a section of the fanbase. Take it to the bank.
I know a secret.. well not really a secret..
But on both boards Ive done a bit of research. I found something.
There is 1 consistent thing that seems to irk fans that hate Johnny more than anything. Something Johnny cannot control.
I have a STRONG belief.. that a Majority of people hate Manziel not because of his off field antics..
Not because of his scrambling ability (because those same people are on Mariotas nutsack)..
Not because of the money sign...
Not because of the rambunctious style in which he plays..
But it is SURPRISINGLY due to one small thing..
His size.
Most of the Johnny haters cannot STAND the fact that his is 5'11 and 2 quarters. They dont think it should be possible. They want a big burly man... because surely that the only type of QB that can lead us to the promised land.
Dont believe me? Do a little research yourself.. there is nothing that irks Johnny haters more than his height
Why? I dont know why it irks them.. when we bring up Wilson and Brees they act like our points were/are never posted.. or they treat them as paradoxes.. unable to be replicated.
Ive even gotten a few of them to admit it...
some of them have even said "If Johnny were 4 inches taller I could see it"
Its really interesting.. its like some sort of reverse over-compensation.
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