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  • @clevfan4life said:

    This is why you don't let a machine like PHil Dawson walk off your team. Oh well....where's that kickalicious fucker? What's he doing?

    He's not a Cleveland guy. He didn't want to be here anymore. He was a good player but he's gone.

    And for the guys who want to cut Billy immediately who do you sign? Are you under the impression there are better field goal kickers working at the Dollar General Store?

    If our red zone offense didn't suck so badly it wouldn't matter now would it?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    He's not a Cleveland guy. He didn't want to be here anymore. He was a good player but he's gone.

    And for the guys who want to cut Billy immediately who do you sign? Are you under the impression there are better field goal kickers working at the Dollar General Store?

    If our red zone offense didn't suck so badly it wouldn't matter now would it?

    WSS

    it matters regardless Steve. His job is to hit game winners. His job is to hit them all within the tolerance of average for a pro. He does not, never has and never will. This is not a personal vendetta it is fact based on his statistics. He is not good enough to keep this job and should have been replaced. It's their job to find that replacement.
  • bring in kickalicious and we own the North, jus sayin

  • @clevfan4life said:

    This is why you don't let a machine like PHil Dawson walk off your team. Oh well....where's that kickalicious fucker? What's he doing?

    He's not a Cleveland guy. He didn't want to be here anymore. He was a good player but he's gone.

    And for the guys who want to cut Billy immediately who do you sign? Are you under the impression there are better field goal kickers working at the Dollar General Store?

    If our red zone offense didn't suck so badly it wouldn't matter now would it?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    He's not a Cleveland guy. (Dawson) He didn't want to be here anymore. He was a good player but he's gone.

    And for the guys who want to cut Billy immediately who do you sign? Are you under the impression there are better field goal kickers working at the Dollar General Store?

    If our red zone offense didn't suck so badly it wouldn't matter now would it?

    WSS

    Regarding Phil- though he never said it- you're 100% right. He didn't want to be here. We made him the highest paid kicker in the league for two years- keeping him any longer would have cost the Browns Peyton Manning money. He signed for less money for the chance to get a ring in SF.

  • @westside-steve said:

    He's not a Cleveland guy. (Dawson) He didn't want to be here anymore. He was a good player but he's gone.

    And for the guys who want to cut Billy immediately who do you sign? Are you under the impression there are better field goal kickers working at the Dollar General Store?

    If our red zone offense didn't suck so badly it wouldn't matter now would it?

    WSS

    Regarding Phil- though he never said it- you're 100% right. He didn't want to be here. We made him the highest paid kicker in the league for two years- keeping him any longer would have cost the Browns Peyton Manning money. He signed for less money for the chance to get a ring in SF.

    @hoorta said:

    Regarding Phil- though he never said it- you're 100% right. He didn't want to be here. We made him the highest paid kicker in the league for two years- keeping him any longer would have cost the Browns Peyton Manning money. He signed for less money for the chance to get a ring in SF.

    Gotta love Phil though, the most improbable wishful thinking would be we snag him back for the 2016 season (when his contract is up), and he kicks the game winner for us in Superbowl LV (I think that's the right one)

    Of course, I'd like the trophy before that, but nobody said anything is wrong with multiple SBs in a row.

  • I doubt Phil would ever come back to the Browns.. but Id sure love to have him and Brad Seely or,Jerry Rosburg back as ST coach.

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  • @hoorta said:

    Regarding Phil- though he never said it- you're 100% right. He didn't want to be here. We made him the highest paid kicker in the league for two years- keeping him any longer would have cost the Browns Peyton Manning money. He signed for less money for the chance to get a ring in SF.

    Gotta love Phil though, the most improbable wishful thinking would be we snag him back for the 2016 season (when his contract is up), and he kicks the game winner for us in Superbowl LV (I think that's the right one)

    Of course, I'd like the trophy before that, but nobody said anything is wrong with multiple SBs in a row.

    @bbedward said:

    Gotta love Phil though, the most improbable wishful thinking would be we snag him back for the 2016 season (when his contract is up), and he kicks the game winner for us in Superbowl LV (I think that's the right one)

    Of course, I'd like the trophy before that, but nobody said anything is wrong with multiple SBs in a row.

    One of my all time favorite Browns, I was hoping he'd stick around long enough to pass Groza's team points record.

    That FG he made in the Buffalo blizzard bowl has to rate as one of the greatest I've ever seen.

  • @westside-steve said:

    He's not a Cleveland guy. He didn't want to be here anymore. He was a good player but he's gone.

    And for the guys who want to cut Billy immediately who do you sign? Are you under the impression there are better field goal kickers working at the Dollar General Store?

    If our red zone offense didn't suck so badly it wouldn't matter now would it?

    WSS

    it matters regardless Steve. His job is to hit game winners. His job is to hit them all within the tolerance of average for a pro. He does not, never has and never will. This is not a personal vendetta it is fact based on his statistics. He is not good enough to keep this job and should have been replaced. It's their job to find that replacement.

    @jcam222 said:

    it matters regardless Steve. His job is to hit game winners. His job is to hit them all within the tolerance of average for a pro. He does not, never has and never will. This is not a personal vendetta it is fact based on his statistics. He is not good enough to keep this job and should have been replaced. It's their job to find that replacement.

    It only matters if you are the worst guy in the league and there are others out there who are better and want the job.

    Is Billy Cundiff the lowest rated kicker in the league? I have no idea. But I'd be surprised if there are too many available who are capable of performing at a higher level.

    WSS

  • ... or here, Steve. Fewer cookie issues...

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&season=2014&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticPositionCategory=FIELD_GOAL_KICKER&d-447263-s=KICKING_FG_PCT

    78% overall FG% is not good, but also not last... T-28th.

    As a kick-off man he's fairs better...

    5th in touch back % at 67.2.

    T-6th in return average with 21.2.

  • Lets sign a 54 year old Dawson to a 5 year deal.

    LOL

    Cundiff hasn't been the problem, though I wouldn't be shocked if we drafted a kicker.

  • Lets sign a 54 year old Dawson to a 5 year deal.

    LOL

    Cundiff hasn't been the problem, though I wouldn't be shocked if we drafted a kicker.

    @ballpeen said:

    Lets sign a 54 year old Dawson to a 5 year deal.

    LOL

    Cundiff hasn't been the problem, though I wouldn't be shocked if we drafted a kicker.

    Let's look at it this way 'Peen. If Cundiff had been perfect, he left 18 points off the board. Interesting the top 3 are either warm weather or domes. Surprised our old pal Phil is only 19th.

  • @ballpeen said:

    Lets sign a 54 year old Dawson to a 5 year deal.

    LOL

    Cundiff hasn't been the problem, though I wouldn't be shocked if we drafted a kicker.

    Let's look at it this way 'Peen. If Cundiff had been perfect, he left 18 points off the board. Interesting the top 3 are either warm weather or domes. Surprised our old pal Phil is only 19th.

    @hoorta said:

    Let's look at it this way 'Peen. If Cundiff had been perfect, he left 18 points off the board. Interesting the top 3 are either warm weather or domes. Surprised our old pal Phil is only 19th.

    Maybe being 19th is attributed to opportunities..he's just kicking more extra points than he was here...

  • For those of you who can't see that WTF?!?!?! He has always been statistically the worst over 50. This makes his 3rd UNDER 40 missed. This should have been addressed many games ago.

    @jcam222 said:

    For those of you who can't see that WTF?!?!?! He has always been statistically the worst over 50. This makes his 3rd UNDER 40 missed. This should have been addressed many games ago.

    He is always a crap shoot when he comes on to kick. Always felt getting rid of Phil Dawson was not a sound move. How many chances have we had to win during a game if he made some kicks that a Pro is supposed to make. Looks like we're stuck with him...

  • @hoorta said:

    Let's look at it this way 'Peen. If Cundiff had been perfect, he left 18 points off the board. Interesting the top 3 are either warm weather or domes. Surprised our old pal Phil is only 19th.

    Maybe being 19th is attributed to opportunities..he's just kicking more extra points than he was here...

    @nickers said:

    Maybe being 19th is attributed to opportunities..he's just kicking more extra points than he was here...

    Phil is T-20th in FG% at 84%. He's 17th in touchbacks at 48.2%.

  • @nickers said:

    Maybe being 19th is attributed to opportunities..he's just kicking more extra points than he was here...

    Phil is T-20th in FG% at 84%. He's 17th in touchbacks at 48.2%.

    @tour2ma said:

    Phil is T-20th in FG% at 84%. He's 17th in touchbacks at 48.2%.

    Thanx,Tour...

  • Anyone who defended Cundiff or even questioned whether someone better was available should punch theirselves in the head. 6 for 11 in last three games and should be cut IMMEDIATELY after the game.

  • Anyone who defended Cundiff or even questioned whether someone better was available should punch theirselves in the head. 6 for 11 in last three games and should be cut IMMEDIATELY after the game.

    @jcam222 said:

    Anyone who defended Cundiff or even questioned whether someone better was available should punch theirselves in the head. 6 for 11 in last three games and should be cut IMMEDIATELY after the game.

    I'm not sure anyone defended Cundiff. I would just like to think the Browns would sign someone new if there was anyone better available. Maybe I'm giving our front office too much credit....

  • @jcam222 said:

    Anyone who defended Cundiff or even questioned whether someone better was available should punch theirselves in the head. 6 for 11 in last three games and should be cut IMMEDIATELY after the game.

    I'm not sure anyone defended Cundiff. I would just like to think the Browns would sign someone new if there was anyone better available. Maybe I'm giving our front office too much credit....

    @bringbackbrownie2 said:

    I'm not sure anyone defended Cundiff. I would just like to think the Browns would sign someone new if there was anyone better available. Maybe I'm giving our front office too much credit....

    You're just being a bitch. Our front office has done an incredible job