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  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    @tour2ma said:

    Last chance, Brian... make us proud.

    Yep.

    I really hate how the Media has thrown Hoyer under the Bus.

    Damn, the guy's brought us to 7 - 5 with all the problems we've still got to solve.

    @jafbf said:

    Yep.

    I really hate how the Media has thrown Hoyer under the Bus.

    Damn, the guy's brought us to 7 - 5 with all the problems we've still got to solve.

    I wouldn't excuse his bad play, but I wouldn't forget his good play either.

    The only thing that I found wrong is everyone jumping on him for only being about himself, not the team, etc.

  • Billy CoolB Billy Cool

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Until he throws an interception or two.

    Which is horseshit. Why is it a good idea to throw a rookie in the game after the team is losing? Why not start Manziel, so he has the best chance to succeed? Either that, or don't put him in at all.

    @billy-cool said:

    Which is horseshit. Why is it a good idea to throw a rookie in the game after the team is losing? Why not start Manziel, so he has the best chance to succeed? Either that, or don't put him in at all.

    I get your point but any game experience is better than none. You can't simulate a real game day experience. So even if they are losing when he goes in, its still good for him to get real exposure.

  • I've always seen both sides of this, but this is the game Hoyer makes it or breaks it. Hell, I'd tell him his leash is half-time. If the fire isn't lit under his ass to play well by then it's time to move forward.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    I've always seen both sides of this, but this is the game Hoyer makes it or breaks it. Hell, I'd tell him his leash is half-time. If the fire isn't lit under his ass to play well by then it's time to move forward.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I've always seen both sides of this, but this is the game Hoyer makes it or breaks it. Hell, I'd tell him his leash is half-time. If the fire isn't lit under his ass to play well by then it's time to move forward.

    I think we may see a bit less of a conservative Brian...which could be good, but it could also be bad if aggressiveness turns into recklessness.

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  • Well.... I would say this is his last chance, but then again I thought the last game was after two stinkers in a row. Just get the W guys.

  • The good news for Brian is that he has shown the ability to perform well in clutch situations......and this will be his ultimate opportunity to show that.....

    So.....Time to go big or go home....

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  • It isn't just about Hoyer. The entire offense needs to play better. The Oline, the backs, Gordon. If these things improve, you'll see the QB be successful as well.

    That said, if Hoyer trips over himself, I do hope that Johnny cuts the late nights out this week and gets extra reps in after practice.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @jrb12711 said:

    I've always seen both sides of this, but this is the game Hoyer makes it or breaks it. Hell, I'd tell him his leash is half-time. If the fire isn't lit under his ass to play well by then it's time to move forward.

    I think we may see a bit less of a conservative Brian...which could be good, but it could also be bad if aggressiveness turns into recklessness.

    @bbedward said:

    I think we may see a bit less of a conservative Brian...which could be good, but it could also be bad if aggressiveness turns into recklessness.

    Problem is, I think part of his last two bad games has been him trying to force the ball to Gordon.

    He needs to go back to spreading it around like earlier and he'll have better success.

  • Billy CoolB Billy Cool

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Until he throws an interception or two.

    Which is horseshit. Why is it a good idea to throw a rookie in the game after the team is losing? Why not start Manziel, so he has the best chance to succeed? Either that, or don't put him in at all.

    @billy-cool said:

    Which is horseshit. Why is it a good idea to throw a rookie in the game after the team is losing? Why not start Manziel, so he has the best chance to succeed? Either that, or don't put him in at all.

    I don't think he should have put JFF last week. Now, it appears to me that it was a lesson to Hoyer to perform better or sayonara.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    tiamat63T JAFBFJ bbedwardB USFBrownU C 5 Replies
  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @jrb12711 said:

    I've always seen both sides of this, but this is the game Hoyer makes it or breaks it. Hell, I'd tell him his leash is half-time. If the fire isn't lit under his ass to play well by then it's time to move forward.

    I think we may see a bit less of a conservative Brian...which could be good, but it could also be bad if aggressiveness turns into recklessness.

    @bbedward said:

    I think we may see a bit less of a conservative Brian...which could be good, but it could also be bad if aggressiveness turns into recklessness.

    Can't see less conservative being good... Only thing BH has that I see giving him the start is decision making.

    @tiamat63 said:

    It isn't just about Hoyer. The entire offense needs to play better. The Oline, the backs, Gordon. If these things improve, you'll see the QB be successful as well.

    Agree... BH has to lead a team win that has to start with the O-line.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    It isn't just about Hoyer. The entire offense needs to play better. The Oline, the backs, Gordon. If these things improve, you'll see the QB be successful as well.

    That said, if Hoyer trips over himself, I do hope that Johnny cuts the late nights out this week and gets extra reps in after practice.

    @tiamat63 said:

    It isn't just about Hoyer. The entire offense needs to play better. The Oline, the backs, Gordon. If these things improve, you'll see the QB be successful as well.

    That said, if Hoyer trips over himself, I do hope that Johnny cuts the late nights out this week and gets extra reps in after practice.

    Yeah, WR's need to fight for the ball, not drop passes, and the RB's need to hang onto to the ball.

    Would also be nice to not have to go to the 3rd String Center this game . . . maybe I need to add that we don't need to see the 4th or 5th String C as well.

    Manziel turns 22 on Saturday - he needs to keep the celebration under control in case he does need to come in.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    @walterwhite said:

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    The team got themselves to 7-5. Pettine puts its as best as anyone can - the QB gets too much credit in a win and too much blame in a loss.

    I'm still hoping to see Tour's Oline breakdown for this past game shortly, I'm certain the coaching staff saw that as well.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    @walterwhite said:

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    Yes it is, but more often that not he's either brought us back or kept us in it for the most part.

    Brian's not perfect, but he's the best QB we've had in ages.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    @walterwhite said:

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    i don't know where you get all this from other than sampling the 1%. Majority for sure is blaming hoyer, even where he doesn't deserve it. Likewise as people give him more credit than he should, where he doesn't deserve it.
  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    @walterwhite said:

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    Walter white will ALWAYS post comments bitching about something.

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  • Makes total sense to me. You stick with the starter until he can't take this team to the playoffs. Any time before that is premature.

  • USFBrownU USFBrown

    @walterwhite said:

    "Brian Hoyer got us to 7-5"

    But it's NEVER his fault when we lose. Ever.

    Walter white will ALWAYS post comments bitching about something.

    @usfbrown said:

    Walter white will ALWAYS post comments bitching about something.

    And then take the other side in a couple of days...

  • Good

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    My suspicion is that Hoyer pleaded to the coaching staff for one more shot.

    Sure... that's what swayed Pettine...

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