Hoyers should be removed as starter
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I'm reminded of Blue Magic. Let the Sideshow begin.
GO BROWNS !
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BAM!!
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Devil's advocate. What if he god forbid tears an acl in a meaningless game. Then what? Resign Hoyer? No way he stays. Is it just me or can Cameron not catch a ball and run, guy just falls down after every catch.
Football is dangerous and that's a risk, but he needs some experience now that we are officially "just playing out the season". We will at least have an idea of what we have in Johnny, because right now, all we have is his fanboys telling us how great he will be.
Football is dangerous and that's a risk, but he needs some experience now that we are officially "just playing out the season". We will at least have an idea of what we have in Johnny, because right now, all we have is his fanboys telling us how great he will be.
Still with the fanboy talk. Any idiot could see Johnny is light years better than Hoyer, but we're just fanboys. Johnny is as pissed as anyone right now because Pettine and Hoyer blew his chance of playing in the playoffs.
This team is awesome. Defense, special teams, o-line, good running game. All that's missing is a qb, and he's sitting there while Hoyer plays like shit for a month. Or more, really.
When he drove for the td against Buffalo, Johnny should have been given the keys. Or at least been given them after Hoyer's int on the end zone. Fear won out, and Hoyer lost this game.
Sucks.
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i have listened to browns for the last twenty years moan and cry and want the next man up at qb. we have a winning season and you still cry like little girls.
i have no conidence in hoyer or manziel. especially manziel. do i like Newton, kaep, rg3 and all these run read offense qbs? Fuck no they don't last. give me a Rodgers or luck type any day.
bring back fry
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Football is dangerous and that's a risk, but he needs some experience now that we are officially "just playing out the season". We will at least have an idea of what we have in Johnny, because right now, all we have is his fanboys telling us how great he will be.
Still with the fanboy talk. Any idiot could see Johnny is light years better than Hoyer, but we're just fanboys. Johnny is as pissed as anyone right now because Pettine and Hoyer blew his chance of playing in the playoffs.
This team is awesome. Defense, special teams, o-line, good running game. All that's missing is a qb, and he's sitting there while Hoyer plays like shit for a month. Or more, really.
When he drove for the td against Buffalo, Johnny should have been given the keys. Or at least been given them after Hoyer's int on the end zone. Fear won out, and Hoyer lost this game.
Sucks.
Still with the fanboy talk. Any idiot could see Johnny is light years better than Hoyer, but we're just fanboys. Johnny is as pissed as anyone right now because Pettine and Hoyer blew his chance of playing in the playoffs.
This team is awesome. Defense, special teams, o-line, good running game. All that's missing is a qb, and he's sitting there while Hoyer plays like shit for a month. Or more, really.
When he drove for the td against Buffalo, Johnny should have been given the keys. Or at least been given them after Hoyer's int on the end zone. Fear won out, and Hoyer lost this game.
Sucks.
Exhibit A
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No more 'best chance to win bullshit'. I am not a JF homer by any stretch, but he could not have played any worse. I don't care if he flushed his playbook down the toilet three months ago, he could not have played any worse this past month
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just can't wait for manziel comes in and shits the bed like rg3. then you all will be calling for Shaw.
just can't wait for manziel comes in and shits the bed like rg3. then you all will be calling for Shaw.
If that happens then we know we need to be looking for another qb to compete with him next yr. But you cant find that out by him sitting the bench. The playoffs are not going to happen even if the browns win next sun. The stollers will beat falcons and the ravens will beat the jags. All of those three bengals, ravens and stollers will win division and both wildcards
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Today was fucking embarrassing.
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Hoyer was the main reason cundiff the second. Both need replaced by next sunday.
Actually Pettine is the main reason we lost because he is the one who made the wrong decision on starting Hoyer over Manziel. He compounded his bad decision by leaving Hoyer in there past the second quarter.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
next year draft with the first two picks qb and wr. wait thatwas i wanted last year carr and Watkins.
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This b!tch of a coach is scared to hurt people's feelings. We've seen it all training camp not naming a starter, scared to put his foot down, scared to upset his players by putting the best man in. We need a real man at the helm, Pettine is just a big soft b!tch.
He should have named Manziel the starter earlier this week and I guarantee we would have won by 2 TDs. This is on Pettine the stupid motherfvcker scared to hurt his players feelings.
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Hoyer was the main reason cundiff the second. Both need replaced by next sunday.
Actually Pettine is the main reason we lost because he is the one who made the wrong decision on starting Hoyer over Manziel. He compounded his bad decision by leaving Hoyer in there past the second quarter.
Actually Pettine is the main reason we lost because he is the one who made the wrong decision on starting Hoyer over Manziel. He compounded his bad decision by leaving Hoyer in there past the second quarter.
I agree to a point. The only issue is that he would have looked uncertain of his decision and we would wonder once again who is QB next week.
Now I don't think there is a single person that would blame him for installing Manziel as starter for the rest of the season.
"A winner never whines." Paul Brown -
just can't wait for manziel comes in and shits the bed like rg3. then you all will be calling for Shaw.
just can't wait for manziel comes in and shits the bed like rg3. then you all will be calling for Shaw.
So you are roooting against Manziel?
Nice team spirit. I am sorry your guy couldn't get it done. I really am. I was hoping he could get it done.
Maybe you need to find a new team to root for?
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Tour?
WSS
He gave up on hoyer at 1:55
He gave up on hoyer at 1:55
Actually it was 12:53 CDT... fuck you eastern zone assholes... Central Rules!
So if Pettine polls the players again do you think they still back Hoyer or do they start to listen from the defensive side of the ball about playing their hearts out only to be left in the dirt with a QB who has now demonstrated over several games that he can score only 2 TD's in some 60 possessions including a ton in great field position today? I suspect I know how Billy Winn would vote at this point. I guess it's time to let JF go out and learn from his mistakes on the field in preparation for next year.
You know how Billy would have voted last week... so no points for that prediction.
I think the polls are over. If Pettine thought last week's D effort was wasted, what do is he going to think about this one?
I still can't fathom how this guy is so loved and excused for his horrible play. Now that it's too late, everyone says he sucked. He played exactly the same last week.
Here's hoping you never find out how I and others loved Brian in spite of "horrible play". Cause it's your boy's ball now that he's our QB to be.
But, no... The games will not compare well at all. He did not play "exactly the same way last week." Hoyer's mechanics last week were damn good, but his reads were off.
This week? It was clear early that Hoyer was not striding to his targets. Happened on the goal line INT. Happened on a 3rd down play a couple series later. Even Lynch commented on his footwork at the time both times.
But either way... leading us to the same point. Next man up...
Go Browns...
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This b!tch of a coach is scared to hurt people's feelings. We've seen it all training camp not naming a starter, scared to put his foot down, scared to upset his players by putting the best man in. We need a real man at the helm, Pettine is just a big soft b!tch.
He should have named Manziel the starter earlier this week and I guarantee we would have won by 2 TDs. This is on Pettine the stupid motherfvcker scared to hurt his players feelings.
This b!tch of a coach is scared to hurt people's feelings. We've seen it all training camp not naming a starter, scared to put his foot down, scared to upset his players by putting the best man in. We need a real man at the helm, Pettine is just a big soft b!tch.
He should have named Manziel the starter earlier this week and I guarantee we would have won by 2 TDs. This is on Pettine the stupid motherfvcker scared to hurt his players feelings.
It appears he hurt your feelings. And I doubt he gives 2 shits about you so....
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Faded said:
Yeah, the "fanboy" talk get's tired. If you're sick of how ineffective the Browns offense has been for several weeks and think the first round pick, Heisman-winning QB on the sideline might give you a better chance at winning than the struggling career backup, then you must really be just a starry-eyed, tail-wagging squish...
No, if you joined this forum after the 2014 NFL draft, and/or have "Texas / Aggies / Johnny" anywhere in your screen name, and/or are the fan of a dude, then you are a Fanboy.
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Actually Pettine is the main reason we lost because he is the one who made the wrong decision on starting Hoyer over Manziel. He compounded his bad decision by leaving Hoyer in there past the second quarter.
I agree to a point. The only issue is that he would have looked uncertain of his decision and we would wonder once again who is QB next week.
Now I don't think there is a single person that would blame him for installing Manziel as starter for the rest of the season.
I agree to a point. The only issue is that he would have looked uncertain of his decision and we would wonder once again who is QB next week.
Now I don't think there is a single person that would blame him for installing Manziel as starter for the rest of the season.
If that's the case, his desire to avoid looking uncertain in his decision may have cost us a shot at the playoffs as we are now in last place in the division with Pittsburg and Baltimore winning.
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