Hoyers should be removed as starter

bbedward

@texaskevin06 said:
Every week when some of us wanted to pull Hoyer you called us "fanboys" and said we weren't real Browns fans. When we said that Hoyer is garbage you jumped on us and said Hoyer is winning games. Us "fanboys" were right. Not about Manziel because we don't know that yet but about Hoyer. Now all of you want to make a change? Hoyer looked no better or worse this game then several games this season. I hope Johnny gets traded to a team that really wants to accomplish things, not go 7-4 and be afraid to make a change. I will root for the Browns so long as Johnny is here but some of you need to raise your expectations a bit for this team and not be satisfied with mediocrity.

You are the worst.

You taunt us for all our losing seasons, then still pretend you're a browns fan?

What is this a thing for jf lovers to come and gloat about how stupid we are and right they were.

Just because we didn't purchase dildos moulded by JF doesn't mean we didn't wanna see him or hope he succeeds for the browns for many,many years. We're behind JF, I don't know why you have a perception otherwise.

The Cysko Kid

@texasag1969 said:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/see_what_browns_qb_brian_hoyer.html

This should be played by any psychotherapist in explaining the concept of denial.

Way to throw Cameron under the bus hoyer

hx214

Wait... Walter you like Johnny now? First you love him so much we all had to sort through 9 Draft Johnny threads a day, then hate him and bitch about who the Browns didn't draft, now you want the coached fired for not playing him...

And you don't like Coach Pettine? After the Cinncy game you thought he was the best thing ever...

Bipolar flip flopping whine ass.

Do us all a favor and STFU.

Better yet, mods, do us a favor and block him from starting new threads...

bbedward

He's gotta keep his confidence, I get it.

Regardless, pettine needs to make the move soon, like tomorrow. Don't make it a circus this week.

Love ya Brian, everybody has a bad day but when the bad days become the norm time to move on.

D Bone

@the-cysko-kid said:
Way to throw Cameron under the bus hoyer

It was hard to read all his excuses. Lord knows he had plenty.

Andruw u

Thanks for the memories Brian. It was a book, albeit a short one, with a cute plot. I was rooting for you all the way to the end.

Sure, even today, in the world of sports there's always reasons, excuses, other guys who didn't help, but the chances are up. So, it's time to move on.

Manziel's got the next 19 games. Awesome. I'm ready for next Sunday already. The Bengals suck. I'm all in on JFF now as much as I was with Hoyer as of Browns 31, Steelers 10 or Browns 24, Bengals 3. Let's wreck this fucking league. Start with wrecking Cincinnati's fucking season.

If JFF is lightning in a bottle and the Browns run the table, it's still possible to get enough help and make the playoffs, so there's no reason to make any decisions based on just playing out the string. At this point, it's "playing to win the game" and "about next season" at the same time. There's still more excitement and optimism about the Browns than nearly any other time in the last two decades.

The epilogue to "St. Ignatius Boy Makes it to the Big Stage" is a pitiful alternate ending - something Browns fans have whole walls of - so yes, irony closes Hoyermania, irony much too blount and cheesy for being actual, fine literature. So close, yet so far - yep, that cheesy. There is and was no second book coming. It's still only a funny, little novel to take off the shelf on a rainy day, thumb through and chuckle at once every few years or so. To a small degree, that'll still be true. I was in the Georgia Dome, a few rows behind the Atlanta end zone, when Brian completed those four passes in the last 0:44.

If sometime I'm reading a book or watching a movie about another football team, say in New York or Washington, and there's a character eerily similar to the good Hoyer, it'll be along the lines of one of those out-of-the-blue inside jokes which takes me, and only me for anyone living within 100 miles of me, back to that week at the beach with friends between junior and senior year of high school.

Epilogue

If only Brian could've gone entirely "game manager" today and kept his head on enough for a 31-20 victory. A deserved end to the story? Apparently not, but what's "deserve" got to do with a Browns fan in December for once?

The Hoyer story continues to an 8-5 mark and hosting the Bengals with a shot at first place in the division with two games left.

Remember Brian's last two games against the Bengals? They were good, but those don't matter at the present. Now, thanks for the memories.

Aggie Brown fan

@walterwhite said:
Brian Hoyer: "I expect to start next week"

Wow. I'm beginning to dislike this guy. If he was a team guy, he would offer to sit because the team is better without him. Just why??

If the defense would have held, and the Browns won, would he be saying, "I told you I would win. Now I'm 11-5."

Good lord, somebody draw him a picture.

slimdawg

Walters name should be changed to Badger.

WalterWhite

Mike Pettine is the type of guy to pump the brakes after he's already driven off the cliff.

I can't wait for Haslam to intervene.

WalterWhite

@everlastingxxx said:
He decided to crash and burn with Hoyer and that's what happened. See if Pettine polls the locker room again. Grow some balls coach, it's JFF time.

Spot on.

WalterWhite

Hoyer is a whiney little bitch.

"It's my team"

"I expect to start next week"

Learn to fucking hit a receiver you dope.

Ibleedbrown

It is true, i am ready.

My Browns fandom will not be questioned.

I have seen enough from Hoyer and have determined that l have seen enough. Most amazing back up QB in the world, but l am ready for the next level.

Tearing a page from Jerry McGuire, who's with me.

And l realize that was gay as hell.

Aggie Brown fan

Wow. I can't believe he threw Cameron under the bus. This guy is shit as a leader. He had a lot of people fooled.

WalterWhite

He just fucking blamed the wind on the Gabriel throw.

D Bone

I'm in for Johnny for all the same reasons as you. Basically, I've seen enough and don't need to see another snap to know what Brian's ceiling is. Johnny is the next man up, your turn kid............ Don't fuck it up.

Aggie Brown fan

Another Johnny fanboy......

LBC mike

i was hoping that when i clicked on this the next line was not "with wide open mouth". what ever gets us wins

D Bone

@aggie-brown-fan said:
Another Johnny fanboy......

Fuck you "Aggie" boy

Tour2ma

@mudfly said:
I think most people identify with teams.....and maybe some players on said teams.....but when said players leave said teams, most fans do not follow said players or said players new teams...

Especially since the beginning of the FA era when players tend to be rented.

@mudfly said:
Once knew a guy who was a total frontrunner...

You've not met Walter?

@aggie-brown-fan said:

Wow. I'm beginning to dislike this guy. If he was a team guy, he would offer to sit because the team is better without him. Just why??

If the defense would have held, and the Browns won, would he be saying, "I told you I would win. Now I'm 11-5."

Good lord, somebody draw him a picture.

Really? Offer to sit? Because that level of competitiveness is what you are looking for?

Really? "Told you I would win?" Because that's what he did after the ATL game?

You want to pull for Manziel? Fine... Fucking do it. Pull an entire fucking train for him. But don't make up disrespectful shit about a player who has battled for this team for 13 games.

Faded said:
I'm increasingly not a fan of this guy. Comes a time when you keep your mouth shut and don't make it any harder on the head coach.

Even if directly asked, "Do you expect to start next week?"

Aggie Brown fan

Correction, 2 more Johnny fanboys.. Mike would rather lose than win with Johnny.