Hoyers should be removed as starter
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My first post was an attempt at a joke, but as nerves are a bit raw, I understand the replies.
I would guess that johnny's gonna get to the field soon, so at least we won't be talking about a guy sitting on the bench anymore.
Then again, who knows...
My first post was an attempt at a joke, but as nerves are a bit raw, I understand the replies.
I would guess that johnny's gonna get to the field soon, so at least we won't be talking about a guy sitting on the bench anymore.
Then again, who knows...
if Johnny gets traded next year will you be a browns fan?
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Every time someone like me gave there honest opinion on Hoyer or Manziel you all resorted to calling us "fanboys" and saying that we were not real fans of the Browns. Now that it is apparent that we were right we want to let it known to all of you that didn't respect our opinion. You are not stupid, just wrong about this one thing.
I don't know where the term "fanboy" came from. I am a big fan of Johnny Manziel and a new fan of the Browns and you all are big fans of the Browns and a new fan of Johnny Manziel. If I have a Manziel dildo then you all have 53 of many shapes and sizes to choose from. You all are now behind Johnny just as I am now behind the Browns. That will be the case until Johnny signs with another team, if that ever happens.
Until manziel wins, you aren't right.
If he does win, congratulations? You win internet points?
Until manziel wins, you aren't right.
If he does win, congratulations? You win internet points?
Right about Hoyer and to be decided about Johnny.
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Right about Hoyer and to be decided about Johnny.
One point for you.
Color me shocked. A johnny fan boy who hates hoyer.
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Right about Hoyer and to be decided about Johnny.
One point for you.
Color me shocked. A johnny fan boy who hates hoyer.
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do any nfl players tell you they can't start in this league?
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do any nfl players tell you they can't start in this league?
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Right about Hoyer and to be decided about Johnny.
The difference is we Browns fans (not fans of a dude) don't want to be right about any of our starting QBs sucking, because we have the intelligence to know that if we are 'right', it means our team is losing. Those of us who were happy that Brian was the starter when we were winning, are now the same ones that are saying to make a change (in essence, make us wrong) because we want our team to win, and we don't care which dude it is under center (like you do), we just want our team to win.
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Fuck weeden right now would say he can take the browns to the promise land
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You are the worst.
You taunt us for all our losing seasons, then still pretend you're a browns fan?
What is this a thing for jf lovers to come and gloat about how stupid we are and right they were.
Just because we didn't purchase dildos moulded by JF doesn't mean we didn't wanna see him or hope he succeeds for the browns for many,many years. We're behind JF, I don't know why you have a perception otherwise.
Every time someone like me gave there honest opinion on Hoyer or Manziel you all resorted to calling us "fanboys" and saying that we were not real fans of the Browns. Now that it is apparent that we were right we want to let it known to all of you that didn't respect our opinion. You are not stupid, just wrong about this one thing.
I don't know where the term "fanboy" came from. I am a big fan of Johnny Manziel and a new fan of the Browns and you all are big fans of the Browns and a new fan of Johnny Manziel. If I have a Manziel dildo then you all have 53 of many shapes and sizes to choose from. You all are now behind Johnny just as I am now behind the Browns. That will be the case until Johnny signs with another team, if that ever happens.
Every time someone like me gave there honest opinion on Hoyer or Manziel you all resorted to calling us "fanboys" and saying that we were not real fans of the Browns. Now that it is apparent that we were right we want to let it known to all of you that didn't respect our opinion. You are not stupid, just wrong about this one thing.
The JFF fanboys wanted Pettine to bench BH while the team was winning, which was ludicrous. Now that BH is preventing this team from winning its time to see what the 1st round draft choice can do. I certainly hope Johnny can elevate the offense to a higher level than BH could. But keep this in mind, if Johnny shits to bed the Manzealots will get a shitstorm headed back their way (provided they have the spine to return to this board).
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Every time someone like me gave there honest opinion on Hoyer or Manziel you all resorted to calling us "fanboys" and saying that we were not real fans of the Browns. Now that it is apparent that we were right we want to let it known to all of you that didn't respect our opinion. You are not stupid, just wrong about this one thing.
The JFF fanboys wanted Pettine to bench BH while the team was winning, which was ludicrous. Now that BH is preventing this team from winning its time to see what the 1st round draft choice can do. I certainly hope Johnny can elevate the offense to a higher level than BH could. But keep this in mind, if Johnny shits to bed the Manzealots will get a shitstorm headed back their way (provided they have the spine to return to this board).
The JFF fanboys wanted Pettine to bench BH while the team was winning, which was ludicrous. Now that BH is preventing this team from winning its time to see what the 1st round draft choice can do. I certainly hope Johnny can elevate the offense to a higher level than BH could. But keep this in mind, if Johnny shits to bed the Manzealots will get a shitstorm headed back their way (provided they have the spine to return to this board).
If he shits the bed it'll be everyone else's fault but his.
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Douchebags like you, who are here only because you're a "fan of a dude" (sounds lame when it's spelled out huh?) are ruining this forum. Go whack off to your new Johnny poster, while we Browns fans talk Browns football.
Browns fans talking browns football... Whatever. You get off calling people fags and homos and dewshbags simply because you've been wrong about hoyer, and its your only defense. It's gonna be fun watching you and others realize just how wrong you were.
Browns fans talking browns football... Whatever. You get off calling people fags and homos and dewshbags simply because you've been wrong about hoyer, and its your only defense. It's gonna be fun watching you and others realize just how wrong you were.
Nice try Aggie. Buck up hoss, l expect better from you.
I'm on your wagon. You got no room for me? I got no room for you.
We're on the same wagon dumbass.
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Faded said:
Yeah, it probably seems a little nitpicky, but, after a big loss that falls mostly at his feet when the D was completely stellar, I would have hoped for a "That's a decision for the coaches" kind of answer. I'm tired of hearing about how this is his team. He hasn't shown he's good enought to make that kind of claim.
First, good on ya for owning your comment.
But Hoyer had shown good enough to say it's his team up to today. And he did not say that today unless there's more outside the quote. He simply said he expected to start at home against Cinci.
As for the Cam goal-line thing. 10:1 Cam says the same thing. Hoyer's quote was:
"It's a play where I'm expecting Jordan to come underneath, and we've talked about it. And he didn't end up doing it. But I gotta see it and make sure I don't throw the ball."
So Cam did not run the expected route, but Hoyer needs to see if he does not. If one is under a bus, then they both are.The one I see that is damning is the deep pass overthrow to Gabe. He says, "I gotta hold onto the ball a little longer," but he doesn't. Then adds, "When I let it go from my hand I was like, 'I really got ahold of that.'" In my mind the last bit says, I can't gauge my deep ball. That it was "overcome" is germane to the drive, but not that throw.
And, as if on cue, that damn Snickers commercial just played...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
My first post was an attempt at a joke, but as nerves are a bit raw, I understand the replies.
I would guess that johnny's gonna get to the field soon, so at least we won't be talking about a guy sitting on the bench anymore.
Then again, who knows...
My first post was an attempt at a joke, but as nerves are a bit raw, I understand the replies.
I would guess that johnny's gonna get to the field soon, so at least we won't be talking about a guy sitting on the bench anymore.
Then again, who knows...
Cool... you suck at jokes, but cool...
I'm ready...
Go Browns...
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Every time someone like me gave there honest opinion on Hoyer or Manziel you all resorted to calling us "fanboys" and saying that we were not real fans of the Browns. Now that it is apparent that we were right we want to let it known to all of you that didn't respect our opinion. You are not stupid, just wrong about this one thing.
The JFF fanboys wanted Pettine to bench BH while the team was winning, which was ludicrous. Now that BH is preventing this team from winning its time to see what the 1st round draft choice can do. I certainly hope Johnny can elevate the offense to a higher level than BH could. But keep this in mind, if Johnny shits to bed the Manzealots will get a shitstorm headed back their way (provided they have the spine to return to this board).
The JFF fanboys wanted Pettine to bench BH while the team was winning, which was ludicrous. Now that BH is preventing this team from winning its time to see what the 1st round draft choice can do. I certainly hope Johnny can elevate the offense to a higher level than BH could. But keep this in mind, if Johnny shits to bed the Manzealots will get a shitstorm headed back their way (provided they have the spine to return to this board).
When Hoyer beat Cincinatti I thought he played well enough to keep his job. But when they were 7-4 I thought a change needed to be made. You all wanted them to keep Brian in and guess what. The team is 7-6 and probably not going to make the playoffs, baring Johnny saving the day. And Johnny's success isn't my everything. If he is a bust so be it. If my favorite tennis player or golfer lose it isn't the end of the world and Johnny isn't any different. I hope he has success and believe me if he does I'm going to be on this board telling you. But i'm not going to stop posting because of an interception or a loss. We are in this together, win or lose.
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Honestly anyone that is a Manziel fan only should be happy how this season turned out. Johnny got to sit and learn the process of being an NFL player without being thrown into the game (at the most difficult position) immediately. Also he lucked out on not having to start without a pro bowl center for 8 weeks of the season. Also he didn't have to play without a pro bowl Tight End for 6 games or the NFL's leading receiver last year for 10 games. It would have been a difficult season for Johnny with the way the run game has been going and missing three pro bowlers on the offensive side of the ball. He has gotten a chance to get his feet wet by playing in a few games this season sporadically as well. So really Johnny had a pretty good set up for his season, if he starts the next three games he will have that valuable experience as well as a healthy roster going into next season.
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This to me is showing an ugly side. He's as petulant as his mentor without a smidgen of his talent.
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The JFF fanboys wanted Pettine to bench BH while the team was winning, which was ludicrous. Now that BH is preventing this team from winning its time to see what the 1st round draft choice can do. I certainly hope Johnny can elevate the offense to a higher level than BH could. But keep this in mind, if Johnny shits to bed the Manzealots will get a shitstorm headed back their way (provided they have the spine to return to this board).
If he shits the bed it'll be everyone else's fault but his.
If he shits the bed it'll be everyone else's fault but his.
You are not going to here excuses from me. If he makes an error then I will be the first one to admit it. I am admittedly very biased but try not to be on this board.
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Every week when some of us wanted to pull Hoyer you called us "fanboys" and said we weren't real Browns fans. When we said that Hoyer is garbage you jumped on us and said Hoyer is winning games. Us "fanboys" were right. Not about Manziel because we don't know that yet but about Hoyer. Now all of you want to make a change? Hoyer looked no better or worse this game then several games this season. I hope Johnny gets traded to a team that really wants to accomplish things, not go 7-4 and be afraid to make a change. I will root for the Browns so long as Johnny is here but some of you need to raise your expectations a bit for this team and not be satisfied with mediocrity.
Every week when some of us wanted to pull Hoyer you called us "fanboys" and said we weren't real Browns fans. When we said that Hoyer is garbage you jumped on us and said Hoyer is winning games. Us "fanboys" were right. Not about Manziel because we don't know that yet but about Hoyer. Now all of you want to make a change? Hoyer looked no better or worse this game then several games this season. I hope Johnny gets traded to a team that really wants to accomplish things, not go 7-4 and be afraid to make a change. I will root for the Browns so long as Johnny is here but some of you need to raise your expectations a bit for this team and not be satisfied with mediocrity.
Got your size wrong...
You want points for calling our starting QB "garbage".
Dream the fuck on...
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I said going into the off season last year that I felt more and more strongly that the browns had to go get Johnny football. He had balls. Then we got him. Then Hoyer came back and like any other real browns fan I was with him as our starter if the team was. Now I and everyone can see his ceiling. We saw his highs and his lows and while the highs were good they just aren't good enough to out balance the lows. He's gotta go. I won't be surprised if he DOES finish out the season but this is not his future. Barring a miracle the rest of this season is garbage time again. Time to let us see what Johnny can do. If he's good we win a moral victory of sorts and go into the next season with momentum. If he's not good, back to the drawing board and what might have been with a killer defense. If he's GREAT all might not yet be lost.
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I said going into the off season last year that I felt more and more strongly that the browns had to go get Johnny football. He had balls. Then we got him. Then Hoyer came back and like any other real browns fan I was with him as our starter if the team was. Now I and everyone can see his ceiling. We saw his highs and his lows and while the highs were good they just aren't good enough to out balance the lows. He's gotta go. I won't be surprised if he DOES finish out the season but this is not his future. Barring a miracle the rest of this season is garbage time again. Time to let us see what Johnny can do. If he's good we win a moral victory of sorts and go into the next season with momentum. If he's not good, back to the drawing board and what might have been with a killer defense. If he's GREAT all might not yet be lost.
I said going into the off season last year that I felt more and more strongly that the browns had to go get Johnny football. He had balls. Then we got him. Then Hoyer came back and like any other real browns fan I was with him as our starter if the team was. Now I and everyone can see his ceiling. We saw his highs and his lows and while the highs were good they just aren't good enough to out balance the lows. He's gotta go. I won't be surprised if he DOES finish out the season but this is not his future. Barring a miracle the rest of this season is garbage time again. Time to let us see what Johnny can do. If he's good we win a moral victory of sorts and go into the next season with momentum. If he's not good, back to the drawing board and what might have been with a killer defense. If he's GREAT all might not yet be lost.
A plus one doesn't give it justice. You nailed it Cysko. To the wall. Balls and all.
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