Hoyers should be removed as starter
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This b!tch of a coach is scared to hurt people's feelings. We've seen it all training camp not naming a starter, scared to put his foot down, scared to upset his players by putting the best man in. We need a real man at the helm, Pettine is just a big soft b!tch.
He should have named Manziel the starter earlier this week and I guarantee we would have won by 2 TDs. This is on Pettine the stupid motherfvcker scared to hurt his players feelings.
Mindless blabber
Pettine is anything but soft, he is doing great for a rookie head coach. I wanted manziel to start today, in hindsight it seems like that should have been the decision. But its understandable why he would start hoyer. He didnt want a knee jerk reaction of putting a rookie in over a starter who has a 7-5 record in the middle of a playoff run. It was not a bad decisions at the time.
Also, if you are going to swear, fucking swear you bitch. Quit it with the lame ass "fvcker" shit.
Mindless blabber
Pettine is anything but soft, he is doing great for a rookie head coach. I wanted manziel to start today, in hindsight it seems like that should have been the decision. But its understandable why he would start hoyer. He didnt want a knee jerk reaction of putting a rookie in over a starter who has a 7-5 record in the middle of a playoff run. It was not a bad decisions at the time.
Also, if you are going to swear, fucking swear you bitch. Quit it with the lame ass "fvcker" shit.
Seconded.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
By "wrong" I mean to say that Johnny is and has been a better option than Hoyer, especially today. I wasn't sure of this until the Buffalo drive, but Pettine should have made the change and I think it cost the game today. I have been saying up until the Buffalo game that Hoyer should start, because the team was winning. I was wrong.
Hoyer is not close to the talent level of Manziel,, and hopefully next week we'll start to see that. You've heard it all before, Anderson, McCoy, whoever, I don't care. With this defense, running game, special teams, receiver corps, the Browns will thrive with Johnny at qb.
You can hate him for the money sign, flipping the bird, going to Cavs games, whatever, he will win games on Sunday.
Think of it this way. With a Hoyer drive, I find myself hoping for no penalties, no negative plays, because there's so little margin for error.
With Manziel,, every play has the possibility of a home run. I just hope that starts next week, cuz Hoyer was horrible today and shouldn't be rewarded with another start.
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I love him for the money sign. This team needs that. It's got talent it needs balls.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
if pettine says, "i'm starting hoyer because he gives us the best chance to win" again, i'm going to throw up....
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By "wrong" I mean to say that Johnny is and has been a better option than Hoyer, especially today. I wasn't sure of this until the Buffalo drive, but Pettine should have made the change and I think it cost the game today. I have been saying up until the Buffalo game that Hoyer should start, because the team was winning. I was wrong.
Hoyer is not close to the talent level of Manziel,, and hopefully next week we'll start to see that. You've heard it all before, Anderson, McCoy, whoever, I don't care. With this defense, running game, special teams, receiver corps, the Browns will thrive with Johnny at qb.
You can hate him for the money sign, flipping the bird, going to Cavs games, whatever, he will win games on Sunday.
Think of it this way. With a Hoyer drive, I find myself hoping for no penalties, no negative plays, because there's so little margin for error.
With Manziel,, every play has the possibility of a home run. I just hope that starts next week, cuz Hoyer was horrible today and shouldn't be rewarded with another start.
By "wrong" I mean to say that Johnny is and has been a better option than Hoyer, especially today. I wasn't sure of this until the Buffalo drive, but Pettine should have made the change and I think it cost the game today. I have been saying up until the Buffalo game that Hoyer should start, because the team was winning. I was wrong.
Hoyer is not close to the talent level of Manziel,, and hopefully next week we'll start to see that. You've heard it all before, Anderson, McCoy, whoever, I don't care. With this defense, running game, special teams, receiver corps, the Browns will thrive with Johnny at qb.
You can hate him for the money sign, flipping the bird, going to Cavs games, whatever, he will win games on Sunday.
Think of it this way. With a Hoyer drive, I find myself hoping for no penalties, no negative plays, because there's so little margin for error.
With Manziel,, every play has the possibility of a home run. I just hope that starts next week, cuz Hoyer was horrible today and shouldn't be rewarded with another start.
you should have been here for weeden last year.
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On the one hand he is right about certain throws requiring that the receiver fight his way to a certain spot...but you don't throw a ball where the receiver has to fight through both high and low defenders. Unless you have a ship cannon for an arm.
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I love him for the money sign. This team needs that. It's got talent it needs balls.
I love him for the money sign. This team needs that. It's got talent it needs balls.
Fuck it pains me to agree with you this much.
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hoyer has done his best and has given it the good old college try, but if he says, "you owe it to me to start" one more time, i'm going to fucking throw up.....
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No need to replace him now. Fucking marble head coaching
staff. Leave the fucker in. We can finish 7-9 and next year Harbaugh can coach this team. goddamit i am pissed at the fucking stupid ass fucking browns
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hoyer has done his best and has given it the good old college try, but if he says, "you owe it to me to start" one more time, i'm going to fucking throw up.....
hoyer has done his best and has given it the good old college try, but if he says, "you owe it to me to start" one more time, i'm going to fucking throw up.....
When did he say that?
Gawd I agree it's time to replace Brian, but I don't get all the ammo being fired at him.
I think he represents Cleveland and the team very well, but he doesn't have it on the football field so I wish him the best, just not here as a starter.
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i'm ready for manziel too, but i doubt success is going to be as easy as it was in the sec.....we've been spoiled by his johnny football heroics....that ain't going to happen in the nfl like it did in college.....i wish it would, but it's just too fucking hard in the pros to do that shit.....so hopefully he's learned something in his time with the practice squad....
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Hoyer will finish out the season. What have you seen from this organization that would make you think any different?
If that's the case,
I hope Jimmy is searching for Pettine's replacement. Our owner needs to pull rank here because Pettine is too inept.
If that's the case,
I hope Jimmy is searching for Pettine's replacement. Our owner needs to pull rank here because Pettine is too inept.
This is where you lose me. We can't go through another coach because the ramifications of such a move would be profound. If you don't understand that pls find another team to root for. L.A is clamoring hard for a team and if we go through yet another coaching change Jimmy's basically saying hello C.A coast. Stop it with the coaching change bullshit. Stop. THe most unproductive critique you could possibly give. I'd rather see the return of the prodigal ginger than another coaching change....dead serious no bullshit. I would rather watch Weeden play flip cup with a football than see another change at coaching staff.
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Faded said:
He mentioned the brilliance of the defense almost in passing, and talked about how he is going to watch a lot of film to figure out what went wrong. He admitted he didn't play well, but kind of suggested it was more of a team thing, which is a bit of a stretch, I think. I guess I don't know what I expected him to say, but somehow it just didn't do it for me given the offensive flameout that it was. I don't know, maybe I should give him credit for having a little perspective.
I love D play... and I've only read the printed quotes so far, but yeah... that he soft-peddled his praise for the D's effort made me wince. Even if BH is deep in thought with Shanny while the D kicked ass, the crowd reaction would let him know how the D was playing.
And then there are the points... and the field position... and...
What I really want is someone to ask him about his footwork. It has to be a topic of convo in practice. I think it's too late, but sometimes to cure a case of the dreaded "shanks", you have to say the "s" word.
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I don't want a regime change either but when your coach isn't on the same page as your GM, owner, coordinators, and you have a QB controversy and handle it like a coward, whatcha gonna do man?
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hoyer has done his best and has given it the good old college try, but if he says, "you owe it to me to start" one more time, i'm going to fucking throw up.....
When did he say that?
Gawd I agree it's time to replace Brian, but I don't get all the ammo being fired at him.
I think he represents Cleveland and the team very well, but he doesn't have it on the football field so I wish him the best, just not here as a starter.
When did he say that?
Gawd I agree it's time to replace Brian, but I don't get all the ammo being fired at him.
I think he represents Cleveland and the team very well, but he doesn't have it on the football field so I wish him the best, just not here as a starter.
You are being disingenuous and if you can't see it it's surely exposed.
He didn't say it directly but if you can't translate that's what he's getting at with "it's still my team" and "I expect to start against Cincinnati"
Of course he didn't say
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If they make a coaching change it had better be a bombshell. The browns are coming out new look next year. New uniforms new quarterback. Does pettine fit with Haslem's new look vision of the browns? I don't know. I wouldn't be shocked if he got Jim Harbaugh if available.
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I remember that Stockton guy serving you all and then you banned him......like fags
I remember he called everyone who didn't agree with him an idiot- about 25 times. I remember Zombo banned him for a week, and told him when he decided to come back to keep his anti-Hoyer rant in one thread. So what's the first thing he does after serving his timeout? Start yet another anti-Hoyer rant. Nah, nah, nah I was right. FYI, there are three Moderators on this board, and it was a unanimous decision he had to go. Congrats Stockton- you were right about Hoyer- that doesn't make you any less of an asshole.
You would PROMOTE Shanny???? HAHA!! Great football IQ you have, and thank you for putting it in writing so everyone can see just how pathetic you are. Fanboy.
Sure, let's just keep the Coaching Carousel turning. Pettine will finish his first year with a better record than- um, Chuck Noll and Tom Landry. By all means, if a coach doesn't make the Playoffs his first season, fire the bum and start over.
He's a rookie head coach too, can't forget that. Like players they are capable of making mistakes. He honestly has a lot of balls for sticking with Hoyer, he didn't pull the Crenell and do the flip flop. I would hope after today he realizes that Hoyer's chances of starting in the NFL are shot.
Exactly. They even put it up on the scoreboards in lights for Pettine to see, though I'm certain he already knew- Hoyer's qbr in the third quarter was something like 39. Yeah, I was there, and even though I've been supporting Brian- I can't any longer. You talk about TEAM losses- well, this one wasn't. Your defense gifted you 14 points Brian. You tossed an interception in the end zone. Missed wide open (Gabriel- I think- haven't watched the tape yet) and Gordon deep that would have been certain touchdowns- by a country mile.
See you later, fags
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out- do us a favor, and don't come back.
Every week when some of us wanted to pull Hoyer you called us "fanboys" and said we weren't real Browns fans. When we said that Hoyer is garbage you jumped on us and said Hoyer is winning games. Us "fanboys" were right. Not about Manziel because we don't know that yet but about Hoyer. Now all of you want to make a change? Hoyer looked no better or worse this game then several games this season. I hope Johnny gets traded to a team that really wants to accomplish things, not go 7-4 and be afraid to make a change. I will root for the Browns so long as Johnny is here but some of you need to raise your expectations a bit for this team and not be satisfied with mediocrity.
Tex- I think you know I've been measured of late in my support of Hoyer. I fully expected Manziel to start today. Pettine decided otherwise- and that's his call. FWIW, a lot of guys who know way more about football than I do thought it was the right decision. Well, the Brown's Playoff Ship just sailed with this loss. NO reason, none, to not see what JFF has got. It would take a frickin' miracle for the Browns to make the playoffs now- even if they should win out.
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I don't think Ray Farmers seat is hot at all, I'll say that.
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Pettine ain't going nowhere and he isn't doing a very bad job.
Give it a rest, dumbest thing we could ever do.
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i'm ready for manziel too, but i doubt success is going to be as easy as it was in the sec.....we've been spoiled by his johnny football heroics....that ain't going to happen in the nfl like it did in college.....i wish it would, but it's just too fucking hard in the pros to do that shit.....so hopefully he's learned something in his time with the practice squad....
i'm ready for manziel too, but i doubt success is going to be as easy as it was in the sec.....we've been spoiled by his johnny football heroics....that ain't going to happen in the nfl like it did in college.....i wish it would, but it's just too fucking hard in the pros to do that shit.....so hopefully he's learned something in his time with the practice squad....
I thought this too for awhile, and it won't be easy. Hell, it wasn't easy in the SEC, but Johnny made it look that way. What he did in his first drive against Buffalo will happen a lot. He's accurate, he's smart, he's mobile, and he's getting better every day.
Once he sees the freaking field, and is shown he is believed in by the coaches, his confidence will grow, and he'll get better.
I promise this is all true. Call me fanboy, don't care.
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