Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Ok..........What are his requirements? What rules did he break? You guys don't know any facts, and you're killing the kid for it.
I am not killing him, I would start him and hope he changes with the responsibility. But I am not the HC. The fact Pettine said he wasn't even considered this week tells you all you need to know about what they think about JM at the moment?
I am not killing him, I would start him and hope he changes with the responsibility. But I am not the HC. The fact Pettine said he wasn't even considered this week tells you all you need to know about what they think about JM at the moment?
Well if Pettine thinks Hoyer still gives us the best chance then we need to trade Johnny while we can still get value for him. I guess we have to trust his evaluations.
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I don't know much about JFF except what I have read in here, and very little anywhere else. I think he comes from a well to do/rich family. He is probably spoiled rotten and used to getting his own way. Odds are he won't change his ways if that is the case. So as long as he performs, screw it. The coach is not his father. As long as he is on time and shows up, and gives 100 percent that is all that matters. Like I said before, these guys are not high school/college players, they are pros.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I am not killing him, I would start him and hope he changes with the responsibility. But I am not the HC. The fact Pettine said he wasn't even considered this week tells you all you need to know about what they think about JM at the moment?
Well if Pettine thinks Hoyer still gives us the best chance then we need to trade Johnny while we can still get value for him. I guess we have to trust his evaluations.
Well if Pettine thinks Hoyer still gives us the best chance then we need to trade Johnny while we can still get value for him. I guess we have to trust his evaluations.
or.....work to get him in line and to start putting team first....I think we all want to see him play,but just wish he'd be a bit more focused on football
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As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
Here ya go(dickface).....post #27......read and comprehend.....
He's immature.....and it's not even a question, but a fact.....figure it out.....
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I don't know much about JFF except what I have read in here, and very little anywhere else. I think he comes from a well to do/rich family. He is probably spoiled rotten and used to getting his own way. Odds are he won't change his ways if that is the case. So as long as he performs, screw it. The coach is not his father. As long as he is on time and shows up, and gives 100 percent that is all that matters. Like I said before, these guys are not high school/college players, they are pros.
Like I said before, these guys are not high school/college players, they are pros.
Exactly.....so why act like a HS or college kid, when you are supposed to be a professional?
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It's just a matter of perspective...... If your boss doesn't trust you, then there is a problem.....
And if you dont respond to your bosses concerns, then there is a BIG problem....
Different generation maybe, but responsibility & maturity still have the same definitions as they did yesteryear.....
That's a cop out. I want to know what Johnny has done to negatively impact this team this year.
That's a cop out. I want to know what Johnny has done to negatively impact this team this year.
Can I play? How about losing vs. "the playbook"?
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I am not killing him, I would start him and hope he changes with the responsibility. But I am not the HC. The fact Pettine said he wasn't even considered this week tells you all you need to know about what they think about JM at the moment?
Well if Pettine thinks Hoyer still gives us the best chance then we need to trade Johnny while we can still get value for him. I guess we have to trust his evaluations.
Well if Pettine thinks Hoyer still gives us the best chance
I'd be surprised if he does think that now, I expect JF to be to be brought into his office today and told this is your chance, buck up or you're done.
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You're all forgetting who is the boss. Who pulls the strings. Who decided to draft manziel when coach wanted to pass? Who signs Pettine's paychecks? I could see jimmy haslem ditching pettine and hiring Jim harbaugh. And straight up directing him to start Johnny.
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As someone who owns a business, I can assure you that what people do outside of work DOES make a difference....
And if Im gonna pay someone a million dollars to be the top producer at MY company, then I EXPECT my employee to make the company and his career the #1 priority.....
And if my million dollar star thinks his personal agenda is more important, then he isn't what I hoped he was.....
Yeah, he's 22 and acts like it....but most 22 year olds dont have million dollar jobs.....
so, if hes just another immature 22 year old kid, then he should go back to college and party his ass off.....no problem, thats what kids do.....
BUT, if he's a professional football player and wants his millions, then he should adjust his priorities, sacrifice the mid week parties and show his new bosses that he's serious and that he respects what his bosses want and need from him.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
Right now, he is disrespecting his coaches and team by saying he wont change and their wants dont jive with his wants.....
This.......Where did this come from? Details......I need them.
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It says he's disrespecting his team by not putting them ahead of his own agenda......
What part dont you understand?
It says he's disrespecting his team by not putting them ahead of his own agenda......
What part dont you understand?
I guess my point is this. He isn't breaking any rules. He hasn't been fined for being late, or anything else that I'm aware of. If Pettine just doesn't like him because of his background or the way he smirks, or something, that is tough. The guy was hired and is doing his job. Plenty of athletes flaunt their wealth driving Bentleys, living in mansions, hanging with stars, etc.
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Mudfly, I think Kevin Sumlin's greatest coaching move was realizing what he had in Manziel. He made him the starter despite the following:
1. He got arrested in the previous summer.
2. johnny was a redshirt freshman who had never played and Sumlin had an experienced guy who everyone "expected" to be the starter.
3. His team was in its first year in the SEC, and was expected to fail, making the experienced guy the safe pick.
4. Much of what Johnny can do cannot be fully seen in practice, because plays are blown dead when someone gets near the qb, precisely the time Johnny makes huge game-changing plays.
Sumlin didn't love johnny's off-field activities, but they were essentially harmless and DIDN'T BREAK TEAM RULES.
The results of Sumlin's choice are well-documented..
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Brian hoyer is disrespecting his team by playing like garbage and throwing everyone under the bus. How do you think the receivers feel about that?
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This.......Where did this come from? Details......I need them.
Clearly you dont understand simple english....""disrespect"".....look it up. Really, you're just boring me now.
I think he's irresponsible and unprofessional.....and you dont.
And I think if you're paid millions to do a job, you should respect your bosses guidelines....and you dont.
Lets agree to disagree and just move on....
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You're all forgetting who is the boss. Who pulls the strings. Who decided to draft manziel when coach wanted to pass? Who signs Pettine's paychecks? I could see jimmy haslem ditching pettine and hiring Jim harbaugh. And straight up directing him to start Johnny.
You're all forgetting who is the boss. Who pulls the strings. Who decided to draft manziel when coach wanted to pass? Who signs Pettine's paychecks? I could see jimmy haslem ditching pettine and hiring Jim harbaugh. And straight up directing him to start Johnny.
Jeez surely we can't fire Pettine?!
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When has Haden been benched for going to Cavs games?
If this is true, just shows that Pettine has a personal dislike for Manziel.
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You're all forgetting who is the boss. Who pulls the strings. Who decided to draft manziel when coach wanted to pass? Who signs Pettine's paychecks? I could see jimmy haslem ditching pettine and hiring Jim harbaugh. And straight up directing him to start Johnny.
Jeez surely we can't fire Pettine?!
Jeez surely we can't fire Pettine?!
We cant. Jimmy Haslem can.
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This.......Where did this come from? Details......I need them.
Clearly you dont understand simple english....""disrespect"".....look it up. Really, you're just boring me now.
I think he's irresponsible and unprofessional.....and you dont.
And I think if you're paid millions to do a job, you should respect your bosses guidelines....and you dont.
Lets agree to disagree and just move on....
Clearly you dont understand simple english....""disrespect"".....look it up. Really, you're just boring me now.
I think he's irresponsible and unprofessional.....and you dont.
And I think if you're paid millions to do a job, you should respect your bosses guidelines....and you dont.
Lets agree to disagree and just move on....
No I'm not moving on till you admit you're wrong or give me facts. I don't post a lot but When I "think" I'm right i'm not just gonna move on.
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Brian hoyer is disrespecting his team by playing like garbage and throwing everyone under the bus. How do you think the receivers feel about that?
Brian hoyer is disrespecting his team by playing like garbage and throwing everyone under the bus. How do you think the receivers feel about that?
I'm with you on that
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