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2x Australian Rugby MVP wants a shot at the NFL

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  • C Clevfan4life

    I don't think he will pan out at all with the ball in his hands. He developed those moves specific to the game of rugby, which is a more lateral game and mostly arm tackles. NFL football is a north/south game hence the need for equipment. Obviously head on collisions do happen in rugby, but not nearly to the extent they happen in the NFL...which is literally constantly. Basically his skillset will not translate to an NFL field. These kids playing in the NFL, even those that didn't immediately start when they were little kids....still have "years" of football experience before they land in the NFL. If they put a helmet and pads on him maybe he could play a 4-3 OLB'er. Maybe if he's a really really really good tackler he could play safety. But that also comes with a high learning curve so who knows. But it's fact that some of the most athletically gifted people in the entire world would fail miserably on a football field, something Usain Bolt should be glad was explained to him as I remember people wanted to see him in an NFL uni. Somebody obviously said dude you'll be snapped, you will be most remembered for the image of you on a stretcher in a neck brace not moving.

    @clevfan4life said:

    I don't think he will pan out at all with the ball in his hands. He developed those moves specific to the game of rugby, which is a more lateral game and mostly arm tackles. NFL football is a north/south game hence the need for equipment. Obviously head on collisions do happen in rugby, but not nearly to the extent they happen in the NFL...which is literally constantly.

    You haven't ever watched rugby, have you? There are more head on collisions in rugby than football because the game is non-stop. Hardly just arm tackles. Both games have lateral movement and the end goal for both is to move north/south. Technique is the big difference. Route running and blocking don't exist in rugby.. I don't see why an NFL team wouldn't let him try out. I don't know anything about this guy but I would think rb would be the easiest position for a rugby player. And maybe linebacker. Assuming the athletic ability is there... IMO Every other position would require a lot more time to learn technique.

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  • Clev, I have played Rugby my whole life, a coach would kill you if you did an arm tackle, and there's significantly more head on stuff in Rugby, trust me, the physicality won't be something he will need to get used to.

    And with regards to north south running, Rugby is ALL north/south. I am starting to think you are thinking of Australian Rules Football, which is a completely different game to Rugby. That's where you guys pick up all your punters from.

    Here's Aussie Rules: Which is a mix between Basketball and Rugby, and actually does have blocking schemes.

    Here's Rugby League: Which is a north/south game, the code closest to NFL out of all other ball sports. This is Jarryd Hayne scoring a try. (touchdown)

    As a fullback in Rugby League you have to be the best tackler in the team, and he was the best full-back in the league. I myself have started playing Football this year, I have been told I have the perfect tackling technique for Football because of my Rugby background. Hayne will have no issues there.

    As BBB2 said, route running is the biggest thing to get used to, I have been going between centre and full-back, and the complexity of the positions are absolutely bewildering at a club level, so I dread to think how complex it is at NFL level.

    Also, the below article was released today about the 49er's and the Seahawks showing interest.

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/us-sports/jarryd-hayne-meets-with-nfl-sides-san-francisco-49ers-and-seattle-seahawks-as-speculation-over-his-future-continues/story-e6frf6ju-1227151115193

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  • Can he kick?

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  • I played Rugby for a few years while stationed on Okinawa. I can assure you that it is a more physical game then Football, and much more tiring. And tell my head that has numerous scars that there is no head on collisions.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • A Andruw u

    Can he kick?

    @andruw-u said:

    Can he kick?

    Better than Cundiff.

  • Then can he make it to Cleveland by Sunday (11 a.m. apparently)?

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  • A Andruw u

    Then can he make it to Cleveland by Sunday (11 a.m. apparently)?

    @andruw-u said:

    Then can he make it to Cleveland by Sunday (11 a.m. apparently)?

    LOL

    He's no johnny he better be there a little earlier.

  • At 6'2 220 you'd think OLB for certain schemes. Perhaps RB or Hback.

    The isn't so much the physicality of the game but the intricacies that take years to learn. The mental aspect holds back even players who've devoted their entire life to football. The chances of a Rugby player coming in and making contributions on defense or offense are slim to non. However he could end up being a special teams demon.

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  • Rugby is utter shit so the less it infects the NFL and indeed, my life, the better.

    C Tour2maT 2 Replies

  • Got any good futbol players over there that can kick?

    TudeskiT 1 Reply

  • I'd like to see him get in the nfl just to put this rugby vs football argument to bed

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • T The Cysko Kid

    I'd like to see him get in the nfl just to put this rugby vs football argument to bed

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'd like to see him get in the nfl just to put this rugby vs football argument to bed

    And vice versa - apparently Willis McGahee is trying out for rugby.

  • Willis McGahee is a dried up corpse

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • Yeah McGahee is ancient.

  • Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.

    DieHardBrownsFanD The GipperT 2 Replies
  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.

    @gftchris said:

    Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.

    Australia has good teams also. We played against an English Royal Marine Rugby team and got our asses handed to us. Had 24 stitches above my left eye. These guys had been playing since they were young, and most of us had just started or played 1 or 2 years. Afterward we had a keg party. Damn good people.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    @gftchris said:

    Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.

    Australia has good teams also. We played against an English Royal Marine Rugby team and got our asses handed to us. Had 24 stitches above my left eye. These guys had been playing since they were young, and most of us had just started or played 1 or 2 years. Afterward we had a keg party. Damn good people.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Australia has good teams also. We played against an English Royal Marine Rugby team and got our asses handed to us. Had 24 stitches above my left eye. These guys had been playing since they were young, and most of us had just started or played 1 or 2 years. Afterward we had a keg party. Damn good people.

    Yep, the australians are among the best. Not so much at american football though!

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.

    @gftchris said:

    Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.

    What is English gridiron? Something you cook on?

    Nevertheless......anyone is entitled to a tryout. The skillset required of a rugby player may not be the same as for a football player, but some of the instincts could translate.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gftchris said:

    Yep. So you'll know, if he tears it up in rugby, you'll know. Then again, american rugby is about as good as english gridiron.

    What is English gridiron? Something you cook on?

    Nevertheless......anyone is entitled to a tryout. The skillset required of a rugby player may not be the same as for a football player, but some of the instincts could translate.

    @the-gipper said:

    What is English gridiron? Something you cook on?

    Nevertheless......anyone is entitled to a tryout. The skillset required of a rugby player may not be the same as for a football player, but some of the instincts could translate.

    The technical skills will have some crossover, but the physical skills will be pretty much the same. As mentioned before, a game of rugby is like one long broken play, so punt returns might be his best place to start, and special teams in general. In a simple scheme, running back is possible.

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