Jonathan Paul Manziel
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It's been announced that johnny will be at the tailgate Sunday with a couple kegs to kick off his pro career.
It's been announced that johnny will be at the tailgate Sunday with a couple kegs to kick off his pro career.
At least until 10:55 a.m. lol
Good luck JF...... Go Browns!!!!!
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so if jm wants a birthday bj all he has to do is look on this board. there are probably a few that are more than willing. good luck fan boys on your quest.
so if jm wants a birthday bj all he has to do is look on this board. there are probably a few that are more than willing. good luck fan boys on your quest.
You get this team in the playoffs next year Mike will be first in line.
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Trying to ignore idiots like Dukes, and give a prediction. I usually don't like doing predictions, but Johnny's never let me down.
Johnny is going to be so much better than Hoyer, it won't be funny. He will be making most of you say, "Holy shit, why did we wait so long??!!" He will throw for 250+ and run for 70, and will RARELY GET HIT. He'll lead the offense to 30+ points and almost 500 yards.
"He's too small." He's always been small and he's never walked onto a field where he wasn't the best player on it.
"He'll make rookie mistakes." Yes, he will, but not nearly as many as most expect. He's very careful with the ball when the situation calls for it. Too often in college he knew the defense sucked and he had to take risks to score points. He will not be overly risky with the Browns stud defense.
"He doesn't know the playbook." You are truly a fucking idiot if you think this.
"You're just a fanboy, you don't know what you're talking about." I am a fan of Johnny, yes. I'm also a football fan since the early 70's. I've seen all that could be seen in that time, and I'm telling you, Johnny is special. He's the only one of his kind that I've ever seen. He's not tebow, flutie, Vince young, or any other comparison you could make. I will not be surprised if the Browns win these last 3 games relatively easily.
In Aaron Rodgers' word, "relax", Johnny's got this.
Trying to ignore idiots like Dukes, and give a prediction. I usually don't like doing predictions, but Johnny's never let me down.
Johnny is going to be so much better than Hoyer, it won't be funny. He will be making most of you say, "Holy shit, why did we wait so long??!!" He will throw for 250+ and run for 70, and will RARELY GET HIT. He'll lead the offense to 30+ points and almost 500 yards.
"He's too small." He's always been small and he's never walked onto a field where he wasn't the best player on it.
"He'll make rookie mistakes." Yes, he will, but not nearly as many as most expect. He's very careful with the ball when the situation calls for it. Too often in college he knew the defense sucked and he had to take risks to score points. He will not be overly risky with the Browns stud defense.
"He doesn't know the playbook." You are truly a fucking idiot if you think this.
"You're just a fanboy, you don't know what you're talking about." I am a fan of Johnny, yes. I'm also a football fan since the early 70's. I've seen all that could be seen in that time, and I'm telling you, Johnny is special. He's the only one of his kind that I've ever seen. He's not tebow, flutie, Vince young, or any other comparison you could make. I will not be surprised if the Browns win these last 3 games relatively easily.
In Aaron Rodgers' word, "relax", Johnny's got this.
I actually believe that alot of this post has alot of truth to it. I think things will be seen much differently come Monday morning. Go Browns!!
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You get this team in the playoffs next year Mike will be first in line.
Next year?
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Trying to ignore idiots like Dukes, and give a prediction. I usually don't like doing predictions, but Johnny's never let me down.
Johnny is going to be so much better than Hoyer, it won't be funny. He will be making most of you say, "Holy shit, why did we wait so long??!!" He will throw for 250+ and run for 70, and will RARELY GET HIT. He'll lead the offense to 30+ points and almost 500 yards.
"He's too small." He's always been small and he's never walked onto a field where he wasn't the best player on it.
"He'll make rookie mistakes." Yes, he will, but not nearly as many as most expect. He's very careful with the ball when the situation calls for it. Too often in college he knew the defense sucked and he had to take risks to score points. He will not be overly risky with the Browns stud defense.
"He doesn't know the playbook." You are truly a fucking idiot if you think this.
"You're just a fanboy, you don't know what you're talking about." I am a fan of Johnny, yes. I'm also a football fan since the early 70's. I've seen all that could be seen in that time, and I'm telling you, Johnny is special. He's the only one of his kind that I've ever seen. He's not tebow, flutie, Vince young, or any other comparison you could make. I will not be surprised if the Browns win these last 3 games relatively easily.
In Aaron Rodgers' word, "relax", Johnny's got this.
Trying to ignore idiots like Dukes, and give a prediction. I usually don't like doing predictions, but Johnny's never let me down.
Johnny is going to be so much better than Hoyer, it won't be funny. He will be making most of you say, "Holy shit, why did we wait so long??!!" He will throw for 250+ and run for 70, and will RARELY GET HIT. He'll lead the offense to 30+ points and almost 500 yards.
"He's too small." He's always been small and he's never walked onto a field where he wasn't the best player on it. That statement ends Sunday
"He'll make rookie mistakes." Yes, he will, but not nearly as many as most expect. He's very careful with the ball when the situation calls for it. Too often in college he knew the defense sucked and he had to take risks to score points. He will not be overly risky with the Browns stud defense.
"He doesn't know the playbook." You are truly a fucking idiot if you think this.
"You're just a fanboy, you don't know what you're talking about." I am a fan of Johnny, yes. I'm also a football fan since the early 70's. I've seen all that could be seen in that time, and I'm telling you, Johnny is special. He's the only one of his kind that I've ever seen. He's not tebow, flutie, Vince young, or any other comparison you could make. I will not be surprised if the Browns win these last 3 games relatively easily.
In Aaron Rodgers' word, "relax", Johnny's got this.
Well, since you just joined- I'll forgive you for your blind optimism. Thing is, we've been hearing the exact same arguing points from different posters about ten times over ever since Manziel got drafted.
See this is the kind of unbridled fanboy mancrush bs we can do without here in Cleveland. No offense dude you're probably a good guy, but gtfo with this bullshit. It's not constructive. All this kind of hype does is set us up for failed expectations. We do this with every new QB we bring in to town. Your post right here is "exactly" why I didn't want Manziel to start for at least 2 years....cause this kind of hype no QB can live up to. Neither Rodgers nor Brady would have ever panned out here in Cleveland under these kind of expectations. Can we please not setup up JM for failure? All of you JM fans should be the first guys to be saying "hey let's curb our expectations he's a rookie". If we lower the bar and he exceeds it, hey..great. And you're only throwing out the 30+ points figure cause the offense has scored close to that with Hoyer as the QB. You cannot come out and proclaim with any kind of straight face that no question Johnny puts 30+ points on the Bengals. Who by the way will be looking to utterly annihilate him. They'll give up some big plays just to get to him early. They know if they get in his head early the games over.
Agree with about 90% of your post.
This is exactly why I posted.
I don't fucking care about the past failures of Browns qb's. I don't care if my prediction makes me look like a fanboy. I have what is called "faith". You guys amaze me with your lack of it, but I know better. No matter how many people try to downplay the Buffalo td drive, that is who he is and what he'll do time and time again. Call me names now, tell me I'm wrong or don't know, I don't care.
GET FIRED UP!!! One of the most exciting players to ever put on pads is about to start for the Browns. Fuck weeden,, fuck McCoy, fuck all the past, a new era is beginning.
Those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it- and FWIW, I go back even farther than you- to the early 60s. Call it caution, call it cynicism, call it seeing way too many great college quarterbacks completely bomb out in the pros- and not just on the Browns either. And as I like to point out- if Manziel was every bit as good as you're making him out to be- he wouldn't have gotten past the Texans @ #1 overall, and their phone would have been ringing off the hook with trade up offers- so there.
I think Johnny is going to be a really good QB in this league.
I HOPE Johnny is going to be a really great QB in this league.
LSU has one of the smartest defensive coordinators in the NCAA in Chavis. He made the proper adjustments. Have Barkevious Mingo and Montgomery hold the outside and rush 3 up the middle. They held him scoreless in the second half both times they played. In fact A & M has yet to beat LSU since they joined.
All Johnny had that second year was Evans. With the best secondary in college football ( all 4 were drafted and are playing in the NFL every Sunday - and we have Barkevious in Cleveland- LSU (LSU- '80 grad) played havoc on many oassing games.
I think Johnny will tear Cincy up especially if Dalton plays his usual crappy game.
Guess what? Evey NFL team has defensive coordinators as good as LSU's. Bill B of the Patriots has forgotten more about defense than most college guys know. How many college coaches have made the jump to the pros, flopped, and became studs again back in college? Start with Saban and Kiffen.
Um every NFL team has three or four linebackers as good as Mingo, in some cases a LOT better. Barky as of yet is quite ordinary in the Pros.
So excuse me if I'm going to need to see more than one nice drive against a prevent defense before I anoint JF as the second coming of Fran Tarkenton. And it will take more than a couple of games too. Took defensive coordinators around 8 to catch up with Hoyer, and about the same number to figure Derek Anderson out. In the Browns favor is the opposition doesn't have much tape on Manziel- yet. BTW, even I know- from our pre-draft discussions of JFF- his completion % drops way off if you force him to roll to his left- think the Bengals defensive coordinator doesn't know that?
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Zombo said:
^No, that's gay, enough QB threads, I'm going to merge it, bud.
Zombo
they will just make a new one.
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great post hoorta
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Hoorta
The Texans not drafting him has mothing to do with how good he is or will be. Every team passed on Tom Brady and Joe Montana at least once. Does that mean they weren't good?
Manziel is SO good that he's the only qb under 6 feet to be drafted in the first round in over 50 years. Teams are scared of small qb's, that's why so many passed on him.
As well as lsu did against Johnny, the Aggies could have won in 2012, maybe should have won. In 2013, Johnny played with a fractured thumb.
As for rolling to his left, I've seen few better at throwing while rolling left, so I'm not sure where you're getting that. I can think of 4 of his most famous Aggie highlights happening while rolling left. He rolled left against Buffalo once and threw a perfect pass to Austin.
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So trade JG and one of those first rounders for Evans. Problem solved. LOL!
Tour-totally agree that week 1 for JM will not look like week 3 where they at least have a little time to get in synch. He's behind the curve right now against teams trying to stay in the playoffs. I still would have preferred Hoyer play out the season and give JFF the job from day 1 next year so he has all the 1's experience going into the first game. That said, JM has a long history of spending extra time with key receivers after practice to work several patterns out including some special signals. Those years with Evans and a couple others worked due to extended play secondary routes that were practiced daily. I expect him to do the same with both JG and JC.
BTW Pettine on live NFL network 1245 ET today to explain his decision to start JM.
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I don't expect miracles. Not only has Josh Gordon not work with the team all season he hasn't worked with Johnny at all. And quarterbacks do you need to get in rhythm with their favorite receivers.
I also hope that Kyle Shanahan is able to hold sway over the couch and tailor an offense suited to Johnny rather than try to force him into the role of the non quarterback centric offense .
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All I can say is get ready for the circus that's coming to town starting tonight on NFL Total Access on the NFL network which has on slate a Johnny Football Starter Kit. LOL!
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In ten years Johnny will be a football legend...
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Well we've argued about Manziel since draft day. The Aggies and others say he's the greatest Qb that they've ever seen and some say he will be a bust, myself included. Hell I've said a lot of nasty things about Manziel, even dubbed him Sideshow Johnny. We've called each other names and spewed derogatory comments about each other regarding everything from brain matter to sexual orientation.
One thing we all have in common is passion. Most for the team, some for the "guy". There is going to be a whole hell of a lot of crow served in the future one way or the other. I truly hope I'm not the one serving but the one eating because I could develop a taste for crow if it means I get to witness a Cleveland Browns Super Bowl Championship before I die. Don't get me wrong , I still think you fanboys are assholes, but hey, some of my best friends are assholes !
GO BROWNS !
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assholes. everyone has one but you don't have to be one.
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assholes. everyone has one but you don't have to be one.
I'm guessing LBC stands for Let Brian Continue.
WSS
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I'm guessing LBC stands for Let Brian Continue.
WSS
Remember that video awhile back with that guy/girl/tranny that cried and screamed into a camera "Leave Britney alone" while crying. Idk how because it was Retarded, but it got really big for some reason. Anyway, I feel like there should be a "Leave Brian Alone" video along the same lines.
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Dalton may have double the qbr of the first game.Fair enough. I'm stoked on the D so i still think this game is very winnable. Go Browns.
Dalton may have double the qbr of the first game.
lol.. I think we could handle Andy posting a 4.0... which, BTW, might be his first ever 4.0...
I don't think JF will get killed. Nobody said that about Russell Wilson and he's shorter than Manziel. Also Drew Bree's is only 6'0" and he's a hall of famer. This gives the organization a chance to look ahead and see what we need in the draft. Like they should have back in May when they drafted Manziel.
Size is not the issue... Taller, bigger QBs get blasted into the tub, if they run with abandon.
I usually don't like doing predictions, but Johnny's never let me down.
He will throw for 250+ and run for 70, and will RARELY GET HIT. He'll lead the offense to 30+ points and almost 500 yards.
"He'll make rookie mistakes." Yes, he will, but not nearly as many as most expect. He's very careful with the ball when the situation calls for it. Too often in college he knew the defense sucked and he had to take risks to score points. He will not be overly risky with the Browns stud defense.
"He doesn't know the playbook." You are truly a fucking idiot if you think this.
Preserved for post game... even if you forgot, "Can't read a defense," with or without an insult...
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Faded said:
Man, I have a lot of confidence in Manziel's abilities, but you make me look like a detractor. I've never seen a college player quite like him, but you're glossing over some things as well. He looked completely baffled by the LSU defense last year (yeah, I know, thumb injury), and he absolutely did throw a few bad interceptions, including a particularly unnecessary one against Alabama at home when we were ahead. You say he'll rarely get hit. It depends; if he plays with the total abandon that he played with in college, where he was pretty much more agile than anyone else on the field, he might killed. If he's a little more judicious than that, and learns not to go for broke on every play, then he might make it.
I'm totally pumped, but it's got the potential to be a little rocky. He's a smart kid; hopefully he's become a more patient one as well.
I'll admit I might have set the bar high, but I have a track record winning bets about Johnny.
LSU had his number, no doubt. The int against bama was a terrible play by the receiver, ran a bad route and let the corner pick it. Big play for sure.
I guess I'm just tired of all the people expecting him to fail, so I just wanted to put forth a little optimism.
I went overboard, hope I'm right.
Faded said:
Man, I have a lot of confidence in Manziel's abilities, but you make me look like a detractor.
Detractor? Not necessarily... just an objective fan.
I'll admit I might have set the bar high, but I have a track record winning bets about Johnny.
LSU had his number, no doubt. The int against bama was a terrible play by the receiver, ran a bad route and let the corner pick it. Big play for sure.
I guess I'm just tired of all the people expecting him to fail, so I just wanted to put forth a little optimism.
I went overboard, hope I'm right.
So the best way to set your boy up for success in skeptics' eyes is to raise expectations?
Browns fans do not care whether JM wins us the game as long as we win the game.
We do not care how much faith you or any other JM follower have in him.
We do not care how much money he has made you.
JM not losing us the game is our "bar".
See how easy his job really is?
May he not lose us many, many games for years to come. If he wins some, too, and makes you a few more bucks... all the better.
Go Browns...
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Time for a little levity: Play the game JF!
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