Jonathan Paul Manziel

miktoxic

@westside-steve said:

Well again, of the two quarterbacks we have on the roster which one was out for a year due to an injury sustained while running the ball?

WSS

exactly why we don't need another.

DieHardBrownsFan

I think the shorter runners are less likely to get injured then the taller lankier ones.

Aggie Brown fan

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Film-Breakdown-Johnny-Manziel%E2%80%99s-touchdown-drive/08ac3f63-690c-43a6-8929-33bd46c0f01d

The above goes into detail about the Buffalo td drive. Not sure how to post links.

The below link is from before the draft and talks about Houston's decision for the first pick and how Bill O'Brien likes "prototypical" qb's.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000314614/article/johnny-manziel-could-be-pocket-passer-according-to-statistics

Here's something from the second article I wasn't aware of.

" Manziel attempted the highest percentage of passes covering 20 yards or longer among the consensus top four quarterback prospects, a whopping 18.69 percent of his throws, according to Greg Peshek of Rotoworld.

Manziel completed 55.84 percent of those shot plays, also the top mark and better than Bridgewater, Bortles and Carr."

56% completion on all 20+ yard throws.

One last thing, you don't know what you're talking about with Evans jump balls. Those passes(maybe 5) accounted for maybe 100-200 yards of his 8000. I will gladly stop talking about college stuff, but I can't let you rewrite history with false information.

Mudfly

@everlastingxxx said:
The worst part will be the instant evaluations after his first start.

Unless he looks GREAT!......right?

TexasAg1969

Well Mike Pettine seems to want to know how it works out for sure.

And guess why JF was not at the Cavs game last night (end of the article).

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000441736/article/mike-pettine-excited-to-see-johnny-manziel-play

Doesn't that little shit know the expectations of late nights out and TMZ?

Aggie Brown fan

Everlasting, have you ever noticed Johnny having a problem throwing while rolling left, or heard that that was a weakness?

USFBrown

@mudfly said:
Unless he looks GREAT!......right?

Lol. Yes, the evaluations are he'll be a phenom because he had a touchdown drive against buffalo.

I'm willing to give him a full season unless he's shitting the bed for numerous games in a row. Gotta get a good sample size to see how he'll compete.

I just wonder how he's going to handle the cold and wind.

Mudfly

I think he'll handle the cold fine. Seems pretty gritty to me.

Ill give him the same thing I gave Hoyer(and Weeden), which is plenty of time.....Id say through next season at least to get a read....unless he's a superstar or extremely bad from day 1....and that would be GREAT..... or terrible

evan_aggie

@everlastingxxx said:

I have heard that before but i havent noticed it myself. I think its a tougher throw for any right handed QB because of the body/feet motion.

One of his most memorable IMO was his double okie-doke right spin he did versus Miss St to avoid a sack (twice) and rolled left threw it down field on a near rope to the sideline a couple of yards beyond the marker. I think A&M was 3rd and 25.

Linked to his throw. (BTW, those highlights show a ton of long throws...it also shows him throwing off his back foot. =/ )

LBC mike

@tour2ma said:

LOL... someone's gonna bite Marv's ankle...

No...

he does look like the guy from madd magazine

DieHardBrownsFan

@lbc-mike said:
he does look like the guy from madd magazine

Alfred E. Neuman

Aggie Brown fan

Evan, something's wrong with those highlights. I mean, it shows 51 points worth of highlights for the Aggies, but where are all those Evans jump balls I keep hearing about?

miktoxic

ugg.

now we got aggie fans arguing with each other about college football on a frickin NFL football team's forum.

what a bunch of assholes.

what are you guys 10 years old?

here's the gist of what happens sunday. manziel looks great, great. manziel looks OK, great. manziel looks like he doesn't belong in the NFL.....not so great.

bbedward

@miktoxic said:

ugg.

now we got aggie fans arguing with each other about college football on a frickin NFL football team's forum.

what a bunch of assholes.

what are you guys 10 years old?

here's the gist of what happens sunday. manziel looks great, great. manziel looks OK, great. manziel looks like he doesn't belong in the NFL.....not so great.

Do we call him a bust if he doesn't look great like some have called gilbert by week 3.

DieHardBrownsFan

Absolutely not. But you can bet plenty on here will.

Aggie Brown fan

Can't wait.

thenew23

I don't know... I'm pretty excited to see if Gilbert earned more PT...

With the way our D has been playing, we don't need Manziel to play like the gunslinger he was in college. We definetly won't need 500+ yards and 30+ points in this game. We just need a smart and effective game manager to move the chains and get us in the endzone a couple times... I hope Johnny is our man to do that...

miktoxic

@bbedward said:
Do we call him a bust if he doesn't look great like some have called gilbert by week 3.

of course not.

hey if these aggie fans are right he's going to be aaron rodgers right outta the gate. let's hope he is but as old and wise as i am that would be a hupe leap in faith and i haven't played hopscotch in 50 years. (old white men can't jump)

i kinda think the NFL coaches (or any coaches for that matter) know more than college football FANS and there was a reason why he wasn't named starter from day one like that punk bitch skip bayless keeps saying he should've been. bayless knows how to lay out his back tracking weeks in advance sorta like some people on this board. he's making the reason now, if manziel plays like shit, to blame it on our FO and HC and that they are/were behind his demise since "they didn't want him."

it took a homeless guy holding a bottle of irish rose to MAKE the browns select him at 22. lol.

TypicalBrowns

That vid is hilarious

TexasAg1969

@thenew23 said:

We just need a smart and effective game manager to move the chains and get us in the endzone a couple times... I hope Johnny is our man to do that...

I think that is exactly what shanny is planning using the skills he now knows that Manziel has. I expect more moving pockets, more rollout/naked bootleg and more draw/play action. I also expect him to stretch the field early so the safeties don't do to him what they did to Hoyer. First time they see one sailing 60 yds over their heads with better accuracy I think they stop cheating up to stop the run.