Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Personally I dont get the whole college/NFL thing. As a Mount Union alum, I follow guys like Pierre Garcon, and Cecil Shorts who are also MU grads. I don't go to the Redskins or Jags board and make myself an annoyance proclaiming that they are the best that's ever been at their respective positions. It would be awesome if one of those guys would ever find their way on the Brown's roster, but I'm a Browns fan first. As the saying goes, I root for the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.
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ok, think about it this way: i follow ohio state university football because of where i grew up. now when eddie george went to tennessee i didn't go onto the tennessee titan's fan board and start spewing nonsense because i followed him in college.
yeah it was great to see him in highlights run and score and blah blah blah but in no friggin way is it even close to what you aggie fans are doing with manziel.
it is crazy, gay and scary.
Not the first time though. Happened with Couch, Frye, DA, Queen, etc.
Not the first time though. Happened with Couch, Frye, DA, Queen, etc.
i don't think the collegiate fans came in and followed them. quinn and frye were born in ohio so there's that. the other two, ehh.
the whole in-fighting thing between fans about one player or the other is kinda sad if you ask me. everyone's goal should be to win, no matter the shape, size, color or sexual orientation of the person putting on the cleats.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Thats fair and i do understand that thought process. I couldnt imagine the hell you all have been through. Its not always easy being a Cowboys fan either. I love the passion (brotherhood) of the Browns fan base, the Dawg pound...i really do like it and i have enjoyed chatting with you all over these past months. I think Johnny fans come wanting to enjoy the exciting with Browns fans. I think they mean well although it may not always come across that way. I think Manziel will be a Brown for some 10-15 years, so i dont waste time thinking about what happens if he is traded. New Brown fans are created in different ways. I wouldnt assume everyone would jump ship.
nicely done squire.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Lol Cleveland media sent a little person to Marvin's press conference lol https://twitter.com/nextimpulse/status/542764953837391873
That's long time Cleveland TV personality John Rinaldi of "Big Chuck & Little John" fame.
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Note the resemblence in the chin, the nose, the mouth, the eyes, even the shock of hair in the front. I guarantee that some time in the future that Johnny will dress up in the Brownie costume.....and the fans will love it.
anything for a buck.
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As for rolling to his left, I've seen few better at throwing while rolling left, so I'm not sure where you're getting that. I can think of 4 of his most famous Aggie highlights happening while rolling left. He rolled left against Buffalo once and threw a perfect pass to Austin.
He was rolling to his left when he threw wide to Benji.
GO BROWNS!!
He was rolling to his left when he threw wide to Benji.
GO BROWNS!!
It was a 1/4 roll left; a play we've seen before this season. JM stopped and set, but pressure in JM's face caused him to bail rather than stride (perfectly understandable) and produced the errant throw wide of Benji (S12P5).
On the drives 2nd play (S12P2) he rolled left and threw a strike to Austin. It was a short pass, but right on the money.
Whether supportive or critical of any player, it's kinda important to get the facts straight.
Go Browns!
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Let me see if I can shed some light on the Manziel following. There have been plenty of really decent players come out of A&M to various teams over the years and it's usually fun to watch their games when they are on. But Johnny Football was different from all of them. I think I once said on here that I called my Aggie friend with the Superbowl ring on his hand to tell he that after almost 50 years I had demoted him to second place as the greatest A&M athlete I had ever seen in 60 years of watching A&M football.
Johnny Manziel was the most head spinning, do everything athlete you could possibly imagine kind of player. Right up there with Bo Jackson. So it's the same reason a lot of people who were not Browns enjoyed watching the greatest runner every seen, Jim Brown. When you see someone who does things on a field you've never seen before you want to hang around just to see what he's gonna do next. So that is what you have. A player like none of us has ever seen has come your way. And apparently most of the rest of the nation wants to see him play as well, otherwise there would not be such a media circus.
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Just to be clear because it seems like people kept thinking I was trying to imply that people without college degrees are somehow a lower class or unable to be successful. Like I said: folks tend to read what they want to read.
It was said that I must be a kid because I follow college football. My retort is that if you didn't go to a big-time college that soaks up CFB every Saturday, then of course you'd have no idea and you are more likely to be a NFL fan. I don't know many people who are Michigan, Texas, A&M, Nebraska, Oregon, Bama, Florida fans and are also "die-hard" NFL fans. That was my only point. They are usually mutually exclusive to some degree (not all mind you). This is why I prefer CFB over NFL.
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This has been rehashed over and over, but my thoughts are this.
1. I live and die Aggie football, whose history is VERY similar to the Browns.
2. One kid comes to my school and seemingly overnight, Texas A&M football leads every sportscenter. The kid becomes the greatest Aggie football player ever.
3. People start bashing this kid that made my team so great, saying he will suck in the NFL.
This string of events makes me root for the kid. All I want is for him to again prove the naysayers wrong, and in the process give Browns fan the happiness he brought to Aggie fans.
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This has been rehashed over and over, but my thoughts are this.
1. I live and die Aggie football, whose history is VERY similar to the Browns.
2. One kid comes to my school and seemingly overnight, Texas A&M football leads every sportscenter. The kid becomes the greatest Aggie football player ever.
3. People start bashing this kid that made my team so great, saying he will suck in the NFL.
This string of events makes me root for the kid. All I want is for him to again prove the naysayers wrong, and in the process give Browns fan the happiness he brought to Aggie fans.
This has been rehashed over and over, but my thoughts are this.
1. I live and die Aggie football, whose history is VERY similar to the Browns.
2. One kid comes to my school and seemingly overnight, Texas A&M football leads every sportscenter. The kid becomes the greatest Aggie football player ever.
3. People start bashing this kid that made my team so great, saying he will suck in the NFL.
This string of events makes me root for the kid. All I want is for him to again prove the naysayers wrong, and in the process give Browns fan the happiness he brought to Aggie fans.
So what was your favorite NFL team last year? I'm genuinely curious. Or did you even follow the NFL before this year?
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I understand being a fan of a team, but I have never understood being a fan of a player to the extent that you follow him where ever he goes. Love Joe Thomas but if he gets traded to the Broncos, I'm sure as shit not buying a Joe Thomas Broncos jersey. I am a fan of the Browns. You aggie guys following Manziel here are just kind of sad. Be aggies fans, you cheered for Manziel, now let him the fuck go. There comes a point when you have to look yourself in the mirror and admit that you are a grown ass man who is following around and idolizing a 22yo boy.
That's because we have different priorities, and again, I'm wondering if you fall into one of the two categories that I defined a few posts earlier 1) didn't go to college 2) didn't go to a college with a good football program.
I am a die hard Aggie and will support former Ags everywhere. Did you know ALL of Texas (Dallas, Austin, SA, Houston) switched from covering the Packers v Bills to the Browns v Bengals because Manziel is starting? You guys just picked up a few million more in audience watching your game. Are you really going to bitch about it because we want to see how the undersized kid from Texas with a gunslinger and road runner mentality does? You think this is singled out to Aggies? Watch ratings across the country when Manziel is involved. It is Tebow 2.0. I'm sorry that ruined your day. By the way, the Browns have a good D or having a shitty QB in Hoyer hasn't made you any more relevant. Johnny has, and with that you get a bunch of idiots like me following the Browns. You are welcome, dumbass.
Or would rather slip back into irrelevance and importance like you have been for the last 2 decades? At least that way you can worship your shitty team and pathetic results by yourselves. The alternative is you have a millions of people around the country wanting to see Manziel and the Browns tear it up and make the AFC look stupid.
That's because we have different priorities, and again, I'm wondering if you fall into one of the two categories that I defined a few posts earlier 1) didn't go to college 2) didn't go to a college with a good football program.
I am a die hard Aggie and will support former Ags everywhere. Did you know ALL of Texas (Dallas, Austin, SA, Houston) switched from covering the Packers v Bills to the Browns v Bengals because Manziel is starting? You guys just picked up a few million more in audience watching your game. Are you really going to bitch about it because we want to see how the undersized kid from Texas with a gunslinger and road runner mentality does? You think this is singled out to Aggies? Watch ratings across the country when Manziel is involved. It is Tebow 2.0. I'm sorry that ruined your day. By the way, the Browns have a good D or having a shitty QB in Hoyer hasn't made you any more relevant. Johnny has, and with that you get a bunch of idiots like me following the Browns. You are welcome, dumbass.
Or would rather slip back into irrelevance and importance like you have been for the last 2 decades? At least that way you can worship your shitty team and pathetic results by yourselves. The alternative is you have a millions of people around the country wanting to see Manziel and the Browns tear it up and make the AFC look stupid.
evan...we get it, you're an aggie and aggies support aggies.....that's cool and no problem with that.....but show some fucking respect.....i know, u had to put up with the home town hoyer fanatics....but finally, that's behind us....lets just get on board and support both manziel and the team he plays on....i'm pretty sure that's where his head is....he's pretty much been a browns' man since he was drafted and has accepted his back up role for 13 fucking weeks.....let's follow his lead and see where it takes us.....above all, quit your fucking superiority-game nonsense.....it gives both you and other aggies a fucking bad rep that they, at least, don't need or deserve.....
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Just to be clear because it seems like people kept thinking I was trying to imply that people without college degrees are somehow a lower class or unable to be successful. Like I said: folks tend to read what they want to read.
It was said that I must be a kid because I follow college football. My retort is that if you didn't go to a big-time college that soaks up CFB every Saturday, then of course you'd have no idea and you are more likely to be a NFL fan. I don't know many people who are Michigan, Texas, A&M, Nebraska, Oregon, Bama, Florida fans and are also "die-hard" NFL fans. That was my only point. They are usually mutually exclusive to some degree (not all mind you). This is why I prefer CFB over NFL.
This is why I prefer CFB over NFL.
yeah, you should stick to CFB.
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Let me see if I can shed some light on the Manziel following. There have been plenty of really decent players come out of A&M to various teams over the years and it's usually fun to watch their games when they are on. But Johnny Football was different from all of them. I think I once said on here that I called my Aggie friend with the Superbowl ring on his hand to tell he that after almost 50 years I had demoted him to second place as the greatest A&M athlete I had ever seen in 60 years of watching A&M football.
Johnny Manziel was the most head spinning, do everything athlete you could possibly imagine kind of player. Right up there with Bo Jackson. So it's the same reason a lot of people who were not Browns enjoyed watching the greatest runner every seen, Jim Brown. When you see someone who does things on a field you've never seen before you want to hang around just to see what he's gonna do next. So that is what you have. A player like none of us has ever seen has come your way. And apparently most of the rest of the nation wants to see him play as well, otherwise there would not be such a media circus.
Let me see if I can shed some light on the Manziel following. There have been plenty of really decent players come out of A&M to various teams over the years and it's usually fun to watch their games when they are on. But Johnny Football was different from all of them. I think I once said on here that I called my Aggie friend with the Superbowl ring on his hand to tell he that after almost 50 years I had demoted him to second place as the greatest A&M athlete I had ever seen in 60 years of watching A&M football.
Johnny Manziel was the most head spinning, do everything athlete you could possibly imagine kind of player. Right up there with Bo Jackson. So it's the same reason a lot of people who were not Browns enjoyed watching the greatest runner every seen, Jim Brown. When you see someone who does things on a field you've never seen before you want to hang around just to see what he's gonna do next. So that is what you have. A player like none of us has ever seen has come your way. And apparently most of the rest of the nation wants to see him play as well, otherwise there would not be such a media circus.
so manziel made A&M great which means he probably would've never seen the field with most teams. to put him in the same breath with a HOFer such as jim brown is fucking disgraceful. that's a breach of the brown's tree of history right there.
manziel will be lucky to sniff the passing gas of jim brown on his way to the field.
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Manziel and my Daughter share the same birthday... although 11 years apart. Pretty cool though. I share a birthday with Nicolas Cage.
Manziel and my Daughter share the same birthday... although 11 years apart. Pretty cool though. I share a birthday with Nicolas Cage.
you got fake hair too?
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Just to be clear because it seems like people kept thinking I was trying to imply that people without college degrees are somehow a lower class or unable to be successful. Like I said: folks tend to read what they want to read.
It was said that I must be a kid because I follow college football. My retort is that if you didn't go to a big-time college that soaks up CFB every Saturday, then of course you'd have no idea and you are more likely to be a NFL fan. I don't know many people who are Michigan, Texas, A&M, Nebraska, Oregon, Bama, Florida fans and are also "die-hard" NFL fans. That was my only point. They are usually mutually exclusive to some degree (not all mind you). This is why I prefer CFB over NFL.
Just to be clear because it seems like people kept thinking I was trying to imply that people without college degrees are somehow a lower class or unable to be successful. Like I said: folks tend to read what they want to read.
It was said that I must be a kid because I follow college football. My retort is that if you didn't go to a big-time college that soaks up CFB every Saturday, then of course you'd have no idea and you are more likely to be a NFL fan. I don't know many people who are Michigan, Texas, A&M, Nebraska, Oregon, Bama, Florida fans and are also "die-hard" NFL fans. That was my only point. They are usually mutually exclusive to some degree (not all mind you). This is why I prefer CFB over NFL.
Then go jerk off on a Aggie forum.
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Said this before too so I'll be brief.
Grew up in Dallas in 70's. Always been a cowboy fan. If the super bowl this year was browns cowboys, I don't know who I'd root for, but probably the Browns.
Some have called me a bad fan for this, maybe that's true. So many on here call me gay, which is stupid and immature but it doesn't bother me.
What I think it might be is a paternal thing. Johnny has been raked over the coals so much for seemingly so little, that I just want him to prove everybody wrong. It was so much fun when he did it for the Aggies, I want to see him do it again for you guys.
Honestly, I don't care what anybody says or thinks, I'll be smiling ear to ear with every great Browns play, and can't wait to watch Sunday.
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This has been rehashed over and over, but my thoughts are this.
1. I live and die Aggie football, whose history is VERY similar to the Browns.
2. One kid comes to my school and seemingly overnight, Texas A&M football leads every sportscenter. The kid becomes the greatest Aggie football player ever.
3. People start bashing this kid that made my team so great, saying he will suck in the NFL.
This string of events makes me root for the kid. All I want is for him to again prove the naysayers wrong, and in the process give Browns fan the happiness he brought to Aggie fans.
This has been rehashed over and over, but my thoughts are this.
1. I live and die Aggie football, whose history is VERY similar to the Browns.
2. One kid comes to my school and seemingly overnight, Texas A&M football leads every sportscenter. The kid becomes the greatest Aggie football player ever.
3. People start bashing this kid that made my team so great, saying he will suck in the NFL.
This string of events makes me root for the kid. All I want is for him to again prove the naysayers wrong, and in the process give Browns fan the happiness he brought to Aggie fans.
and..."give Browns fan the happiness he brought to Aggie fans"...i think we can all buy in to that.....there's always going to be people who like to be negative and run other people down.....that's certainly true for manziel....a lot of people want him to fail....just accept that but don't be consumed by it..stay positive...if he's successful, the browns are successful...any true browns fan wants him to succeed....ignore the rest....
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i don't think anyone here wants to see manziel fail, in fact i'm sure it's quite the opposite.
the problem is (that you aggie fans refuse to comprehend) that every time one of you texas a and m fans/alum or what-have-yous opens their pie hole to profess to us how manziel changed the college football landscape, is the best thing since sliced bread, will be the next willie mays and the first man on uranus is just nauseating. since the browns punched manziel's ticket @22 in this year's draft, this board has been inundated with fans from 'outside'. do browns fans despise new browns fans? of course not.
do people get disturbed when some stranger comes into their house and tells you your recliner sucks and yours is better?
g@# damn right.
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Let me see if I can shed some light on the Manziel following. There have been plenty of really decent players come out of A&M to various teams over the years and it's usually fun to watch their games when they are on. But Johnny Football was different from all of them. I think I once said on here that I called my Aggie friend with the Superbowl ring on his hand to tell he that after almost 50 years I had demoted him to second place as the greatest A&M athlete I had ever seen in 60 years of watching A&M football.
Johnny Manziel was the most head spinning, do everything athlete you could possibly imagine kind of player. Right up there with Bo Jackson. So it's the same reason a lot of people who were not Browns enjoyed watching the greatest runner every seen, Jim Brown. When you see someone who does things on a field you've never seen before you want to hang around just to see what he's gonna do next. So that is what you have. A player like none of us has ever seen has come your way. And apparently most of the rest of the nation wants to see him play as well, otherwise there would not be such a media circus.
so manziel made A&M great which means he probably would've never seen the field with most teams. to put him in the same breath with a HOFer such as jim brown is fucking disgraceful. that's a breach of the brown's tree of history right there.
manziel will be lucky to sniff the passing gas of jim brown on his way to the field.
so manziel made A&M great which means he probably would've never seen the field with most teams. to put him in the same breath with a HOFer such as jim brown is fucking disgraceful. that's a breach of the brown's tree of history right there.
manziel will be lucky to sniff the passing gas of jim brown on his way to the field.
as my name implies, i'm a big jim brown fan and i rooted for cleveland, not because i liked cleveland, per se, but because jim brown played for them. for me he's one of, if not the best ever, running backs.....but don't beat up on aggie brown too much.....manziel was every bit as good in college as jim brown. in 3 years at syracuse brown ran for 2091 yards....and 19 td's.; that's in 3 year..... in 2 years at a&m, manziel ran for 2169 yards and 30 fucking td's...and he did this while he was passing for another 7829 yds and 63 additional td's; and that's in the sec west, the toughest conference in the nation.....so at least from a college perspective, which is all we can compare at this time, manziel more than holds his own against (my boy) jim brown..so cut the manziel fans some slack....his fucking college career was amazing......so it's no wonder that his fans like him as much as jim brown's did back in the day.....
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