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Ranking every Browns starting QB since the return in 99'

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  • J Jake1123

    Ranking every Browns starting QB since the return in 99'

    http://clesportstalk.net/ranking-the-20-browns-qbs-since-the-return-in-1999/

    the top 5 are..

    5) Trent Dilfer

    4) Kelly Holcumb

    3) Brian Hoyer

    2) Tim Couch

    1) Derek Anderson

    there is a where are they now feature too.. SO I ask you all... what is your list?

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #8

    @jake1123 said:

    Ranking every Browns starting QB since the return in 99'

    http://clesportstalk.net/ranking-the-20-browns-qbs-since-the-return-in-1999/

    the top 5 are..

    5) Trent Dilfer

    4) Kelly Holcumb

    3) Brian Hoyer

    2) Tim Couch

    1) Derek Anderson

    there is a where are they now feature too.. SO I ask you all... what is your list?

    How about the worst 5?

    Ken Dorsey

    Doug Pederson

    Seneca Wallace

    Brady Quinn

    Spergon Wynn?

    I know, not much difference between the best 5 and the worst 5.

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #9

    1. Hoyer

    2. Garcia

    3. Couch

    4. Anderson

    5. Dilfer

    Garcia left and played pretty decent if I remember right, speaks a little to our own incompetence. Anderson was bad but he did have it together for a little while.

    Brian #1 IMO, because his good days were really good and he's the only one with a winning record.

  • ManzierM Manzier wrote on
    #10

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    A Opal312O bbedwardB Tour2maT cdl15C 5 Replies
  • W Westside Steve wrote on
    #11

    @westside-steve said:

    age, of course, comes into play since you have your selection of these 5 quarterbacks to start for your team. They can all be 22 at the beginning of their career or 27 or 28, whichever you choose.

    (and no, not a 28 year old Tim Couch who had already been beaten to death but a healthy 28 year old Tim or whoever)

    It's just a question of which of the five you think you would like to build your team around. No more than that.

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  • ManzierM Manzier

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    A Andruw u wrote on
    #12

    @manzier said:

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    As long as it's all in hindsight anyway, I prefer to think more along the line of what Couch could've been had it been handled right. We should've totally sacrificed 1999, let Detmer or some other guy take the beatings and 2-14, build the roster more through the following offseason, then play Couch starting 2000. Manziel, does - in some part thanks to Hoyer - have the best rookie debut situation of Couch, Frye, Quinn, McCoy and Weeden.

  • S Sir Barksalot wrote on
    #13

    Anderson has to be #1 on everyones list. Gosh that is painfull to say, but he is the browns single season all time passing leader. That should count for at least being #1 on this crap list. lol

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  • ManzierM Manzier

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #14

    @manzier said:

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    Not to mention Chris Palmer as the head coach. None of these guys played on good teams except Hoyer and Anderson
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  • ManzierM Manzier

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #15

    @manzier said:

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    Yea, but if you negate the jaguars game onward then he did pretty good mostly all together 😛

    Definitely a good team, but when our good team wasn't playing good early in the season he got us lifted off a bit. It turned into the opposite down the stretch so it seems though.

    At least he quit (albeit involuntarily) while he was ahead. When it goes down in the history books he's the winningest QB since 99'

  • Opal312O Opal312

    @manzier said:

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    Not to mention Chris Palmer as the head coach. None of these guys played on good teams except Hoyer and Anderson
    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #16

    @opal312 said:

    Not to mention Chris Palmer as the head coach. None of these guys played on good teams except Hoyer and Anderson

    Yeah, Chris, the QB whisperer, really helped Couch didn't he...

    Know I've said it before, but when I heard him rave about Couch and then add, "we just have to tweak his delivery." I said, "Oh fuck."

    Too bad Palmer never got his hands on Bernie...

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  • S Sir Barksalot

    Anderson has to be #1 on everyones list. Gosh that is painfull to say, but he is the browns single season all time passing leader. That should count for at least being #1 on this crap list. lol

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #17

    @sir-barksalot said:

    Anderson has to be #1 on everyones list. Gosh that is painfull to say, but he is the browns single season all time passing leader. That should count for at least being #1 on this crap list. lol

    He is by no means the Browns single season passing leader, not in yards, TDs or practically any stat you can think of. Where are you getting this information?

  • ManzierM Manzier

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #18

    @manzier said:

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    Subtle difference perhaps, but I would argue "Hoyer was part of the best team..."

    Which of his predecessors do you think would have posted the same or better record in 2013?

    Couch? Possibly, but unknowable. Wheezy? More knowable, IMO, and also no fucking way...

    Those that I think would have a good chance of equaling or bettering Hoyer's team's record? Based solely on their skill level that I saw when they were a Brown:

    Garcia, McCoy... pretty much it...

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  • ManzierM Manzier

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on
    #19

    @manzier said:

    Can we be honest and admit Hoyer had the best record because he had the best team?

    Wonder what his record would have been if he played when couch played.

    No he didn't. 07 offense compared to this year. SMH

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