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  • @everlastingxxx said:

    I think its a lack of knowledge to put a label on anything as big and diverse as Texas. There are positives and negatives in every state and city.

    Of course it is. This is just an exercise in busting your humps.

    I love Houston. Traffic is horrific but there are a million things to do. City is full of life and opportunity.

    Well, why don't you list a few. OK, maybe there is more than just one day of things to do.....so clue us in. And don't say go to such and such restaurant/zoo/art museums......Tell us what is truly unique about Houston that would want you to spend some time there seeing or doing something you cannot do elsewhere.

  • Anyone else hoping JF shows up with a little green Christmas elf cap to wear on the sidelines when the D is on the field? 😛

    @texasag1969 said:

    Anyone else hoping JF shows up with a little green Christmas elf cap to wear on the sidelines when the D is on the field? 😛

    I'm just hoping he "shows up". 😉

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well, BB had 5 seasons here and he had a losing record in 4 out of 5. In his first year in NE without Brady starting he went 5-11.

    So, the only evidence we have is that without Tom Brady at QB.... he has been a loser in 5 out of 6 years.

    But my suspicion is that BB will retire as the HC of the NEP when Brady calls it quits...

    And I suspect it will be a few more AFCE Division Championships before your suspicion is vetted.

    BB inherited a 3-13 train wreck of a team in CLE. BB's first five seasons were: 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5* and 5-11**. And he did it all without a franchise QB... To draw a negative from his first five seasons is ludicrous.

    * beat Pats in WC game.

    ** needs no explanation.

    @tour2ma said:

    And I suspect it will be a few more AFCE Division Championships before your suspicion is vetted.

    BB inherited a 3-13 train wreck of a team in CLE. BB's first five seasons were: 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5* and 5-11**. And he did it all without a franchise QB... To draw a negative from his first five seasons is ludicrous.

    * beat Pats in WC game.

    ** needs no explanation.

    He blew up one season in which the Browns were in the playoff race, so that is on him.

    He had Bernie and Vinny who were both better than any QB we have had since. 1994 obviously is to his credit, and he should get a partial pass for 1995....but only partial.

    Bottom line: He was a losing coach. (plus note that while the team he took over was 3-13 the year before, just the year before that they were in the AFC title game....it was NOT a complete wreck of a team)

  • @everlastingxxx said:

    I think its a lack of knowledge to put a label on anything as big and diverse as Texas. ... City is full of life and opportunity.

    Ahahaha....because Texas is so well known for it's diversity.....thats a good one....😉

    But, being more of a country boy now, I do agree that big cities are full of something.....

  • @tour2ma said:

    And I suspect it will be a few more AFCE Division Championships before your suspicion is vetted.

    BB inherited a 3-13 train wreck of a team in CLE. BB's first five seasons were: 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5* and 5-11**. And he did it all without a franchise QB... To draw a negative from his first five seasons is ludicrous.

    * beat Pats in WC game.

    ** needs no explanation.

    He blew up one season in which the Browns were in the playoff race, so that is on him.

    He had Bernie and Vinny who were both better than any QB we have had since. 1994 obviously is to his credit, and he should get a partial pass for 1995....but only partial.

    Bottom line: He was a losing coach. (plus note that while the team he took over was 3-13 the year before, just the year before that they were in the AFC title game....it was NOT a complete wreck of a team)

    @the-gipper said:

    He blew up one season in which the Browns were in the playoff race, so that is on him.

    He had Bernie and Vinny who were both better than any QB we have had since. 1994 obviously is to his credity, and he should get a partial pass for 1995....but only partial.

    Bottom line: He was a losing coach. (plus note that while the team he took over was 3-13 the year before, just the year before that they were in the AFC title game....it was NOT a complete wreck of a team)

    OK... so how does a "title contender" get to 3-13 the following year? By sustained greatness?

    Which season did he blow up?... Surely you cannot be referring to '95...

    Bernie was done... it was a hard truth, but it was true. Vinnie was a color-blind, upper tier, journeyman, game manager his entire career.

    Bottom line: Love a lot of your stuff and appreciate the work you put into it, but you also grind axes into needles and just prick away.

  • Where I am, for the next couple of days.... is just North of Dallas.

    Don't like it. Everybody poisons their lawns every year, because of fire ants,

    if they have them.

    Cross town, used to be called "tarantula hill".

    It's flat, and nobody has basements, because if you tried to dig one, it

    would just fill in as you went - silt and sand.

    Water problems.Little rain. Too much heat in the summer and spring and fall.

    People generally live in air conditioning. Nobody barefoots in Texas. Or lays in the lawn.

    I don't like Texas outdoors. In basic in San Antonio, we got sleeted on at fall out about 5:30 in the morning,

    and by noon, we were drenched in sweat. The weather hasn't changed.

    Armadillos, and mosquitoes the size of a humvee.....

    @calfoxwc said:

    Where I am, for the next couple of days.... is just North of Dallas.

    Nobody barefoots in Texas. Or lays in the lawn.

    Armadillos... the size of a humvee.....

    North of Dallas, around Richardson, is just bad... but folks that far north can and do barefoot cause they have Bermuda grass, not St Augustine (AKA "crabgrass") that dominates further south like Houston. St. Augustine has "runners" that can snare and break toes...

    As for the Giant Armadillos... one of the best sets of regional commercials ever.

    The first is good, but there was a 2nd that was killer with Cooter, the reluctant Lone Star delivery truck driver. Can't find that one...

  • w06b807luhskmifxgbu8.png

    Anybody notice who the analyst is for Derek Anderson's start in Carolina this week? That's right ... Brady Quinn

    AWKWARD

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    w06b807luhskmifxgbu8.png

    Anybody notice who the analyst is for Derek Anderson's start in Carolina this week? That's right ... Brady Quinn

    AWKWARD

    Zombo

    I'll pile on Ft. Wayne a little here. If you look closely at the viewing map, the Ft. Wayne broadcast extends into a tiny part of Ohio that happens to be near and dear to me.

    It breaks my heart that my people in Van Wert county are denied Browns games Sunday after Sunday. That's where it all started for me.

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  • it almost takes a whole friggin day to drive through TX one side to the other. flat sandy with a little sparkle of water.

    a perfect description of one of my ex's.

    didn't watch the vid but just from the still shot the actor reminds of this guy:

  • Zombo said:

    w06b807luhskmifxgbu8.png

    Anybody notice who the analyst is for Derek Anderson's start in Carolina this week? That's right ... Brady Quinn

    AWKWARD

    Zombo

    I'll pile on Ft. Wayne a little here. If you look closely at the viewing map, the Ft. Wayne broadcast extends into a tiny part of Ohio that happens to be near and dear to me.

    It breaks my heart that my people in Van Wert county are denied Browns games Sunday after Sunday. That's where it all started for me.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I'll pile on Ft. Wayne a little here. If you look closely at the viewing map, the Ft. Wayne broadcast extends into a tiny part of Ohio that happens to be near and dear to me.

    It breaks my heart that my people in Van Wert county are denied Browns games Sunday after Sunday. That's where it all started for me.

    Thats shocking really.

    Spend a few very long years living in Lima(drove to Van Wert all the time for work, btw) and that area is a hotbed of Browns & Bengals fans...It was 85-87, when the Browns and Bengals were pretty good, and it was great to live the rivalry there...there were so many Bungle lovers....

    So, the area that loves BOTH teams will see neither?....thats just stupid.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I'll pile on Ft. Wayne a little here. If you look closely at the viewing map, the Ft. Wayne broadcast extends into a tiny part of Ohio that happens to be near and dear to me.

    It breaks my heart that my people in Van Wert county are denied Browns games Sunday after Sunday. That's where it all started for me.

    Thats shocking really.

    Spend a few very long years living in Lima(drove to Van Wert all the time for work, btw) and that area is a hotbed of Browns & Bengals fans...It was 85-87, when the Browns and Bengals were pretty good, and it was great to live the rivalry there...there were so many Bungle lovers....

    So, the area that loves BOTH teams will see neither?....thats just stupid.

    @mudfly said:

    Thats shocking really.

    Spend a few very long years living in Lima(drove to Van Wert all the time for work, btw) and that area is a hotbed of Browns & Bengals fans...It was 85-87, when the Browns and Bengals were pretty good, and it was great to live the rivalry there...there were so many Bungle lovers....

    So, the area that loves BOTH teams will see neither?....thats just stupid.

    Yeah but the good news is it's not a hateful drive to Lima to pick up the game if you can't afford Sunday Ticket. It doesn't make me very happy Dayton is considered a Cinci market and the Bungles always get preference. 25 miles north, it would be a different story. WLIO in Lima can show whoever they want.

  • Zombo said:

    My Hate List:

    1. Steelers

    2. Ravens

    3. Bungles

    4. Cowboys

    5. Dolphins (from living down here)

    6. Patriots (the fans)

    7. Broncos (the history)

    8. Texas (fuck Texas and fuck expansion teams)

    That's about all I hate, but we need two more, so I will add:

    9. Chiefs (because of bad experience with some of their fat obnoxious fans once)

    10. Penguins (because they are all Steeler fans)

    OK, they are really a hockey team, so 10. Rams, (because they keep moving and dicking over people)

    Zombo

    Why the Rams and not the Cardinals. They have moved as much as the Rams.

    @the-gipper said:

    Why the Rams and not the Cardinals. They have moved as much as the Rams.

    Because Missouri can Blow Me.

    Zombo

  • it almost takes a whole friggin day to drive through TX one side to the other. flat sandy with a little sparkle of water.

    a perfect description of one of my ex's.

    didn't watch the vid but just from the still shot the actor reminds of this guy:

    @miktoxic said:

    it almost takes a whole friggin day to drive through TX one side to the other. flat sandy with a little sparkle of water.

    a perfect description of one of my ex's.

    didn't watch the vid but just from the still shot the actor reminds of this guy:

    LOL... that's at least the 10th ex descriptor you've commented on since I've been here.

    ADD? Attention Deficit Divorcee?

    But yeah... coming into Texas from Louisiana on I-10 is a little disheartening. The first mile marker is like "879" or something.

    And actually the actor in the background was a well-known B-movie vet, Kenneth Tobey.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0864851/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t2

    Among his many screen credits was the ranking officer at the Antarctic post in the original "The Thing (from Another World)" which more famously featured James Arness as "The Thing".

  • @mudfly said:

    Thats shocking really.

    Spend a few very long years living in Lima(drove to Van Wert all the time for work, btw) and that area is a hotbed of Browns & Bengals fans...It was 85-87, when the Browns and Bengals were pretty good, and it was great to live the rivalry there...there were so many Bungle lovers....

    So, the area that loves BOTH teams will see neither?....thats just stupid.

    Yeah but the good news is it's not a hateful drive to Lima to pick up the game if you can't afford Sunday Ticket. It doesn't make me very happy Dayton is considered a Cinci market and the Bungles always get preference. 25 miles north, it would be a different story. WLIO in Lima can show whoever they want.

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah but the good news is it's not a hateful drive to Lima to pick up the game if you can't afford Sunday Ticket. It doesn't make me very happy Dayton is considered a Cinci market and the Bungles always get preference. 25 miles north, it would be a different story. WLIO in Lima can show whoever they want.

    Yeah....definitely NOT an all Bengal market...always felt like the Browns had a slight edge in Lima and Wapak, where I worked...

    Also got to bring a few buddies up to Cleveland for their first Browns game ever....I was excited for their excitement...though I also took em to the flats and they, basically, couldnt handle it.....one of them flat out fainted at Peabodies just because it was too much music, lights, smoke, booze and people at once.......we went home early.... sober....

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why the Rams and not the Cardinals. They have moved as much as the Rams.

    Because Missouri can Blow Me.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Because Missouri can Blow Me.

    Zombo

    They don't call it the Blow Me state for nuthin.....

  • @mudfly said:

    Thats shocking really.

    Spend a few very long years living in Lima(drove to Van Wert all the time for work, btw) and that area is a hotbed of Browns & Bengals fans...It was 85-87, when the Browns and Bengals were pretty good, and it was great to live the rivalry there...there were so many Bungle lovers....

    So, the area that loves BOTH teams will see neither?....thats just stupid.

    Yeah but the good news is it's not a hateful drive to Lima to pick up the game if you can't afford Sunday Ticket. It doesn't make me very happy Dayton is considered a Cinci market and the Bungles always get preference. 25 miles north, it would be a different story. WLIO in Lima can show whoever they want.

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah but the good news is it's not a hateful drive to Lima to pick up the game if you can't afford Sunday Ticket. It doesn't make me very happy Dayton is considered a Cinci market and the Bungles always get preference. 25 miles north, it would be a different story. WLIO in Lima can show whoever they want.

    My recollection is that outside of the small semi-circle of southwest Ohio, all the rest of Ohio was solidly Browns territory, including the Gem City.

    Hell, Dayton still has an AM station that carries Browns games that l pick up when they're not on tv, so l'm thankful for that and folks in Dayton that demand it.

  • @texaskevin06 said:

    I have never missed an A&M game and rarely watch the NFL, but ever since Johnny came along and got drafted you are exactly right. He kind of ruined A&M football for me for a while because watching them now is so boring, even when they win. I would give up A&M ever winning a title for the Browns to win the super bowl this year. Although to be fair I didn't actually go to A&M and am only a fan of their basketball and football teams. My dad and the rest of my family did so that is why I watch the games.

    Wtf? What kind of fan are you? If you are truly an Aggie fan you'd enjoy their recent surge while you can. You wouldn't root for the success of one former player (that probably got paid for autographs and broke NCAA rules) over the success of the team...

    @mld-woody said:

    Wtf? What kind of fan are you? If you are truly an Aggie fan you'd enjoy their recent surge while you can. You wouldn't root for the success of one former player (that probably got paid for autographs and broke NCAA rules) over the success of the team...

    I have agonized over their loses and celebrated their wins as much as you all with your respective teams. Even this year it killed me when they lost to Ole Miss and I went crazy when they beat Arkansas. There have been a lot of good quarterbacks at A&M, including Tannahill the year before Johnny. But Johnny was really that special. It got to the point where I was upset at a good kick return by A&M because it meant Johnny would get less yards.

    And I don't get why rooting for certain players is worse than being a life long fan of a team. Rafael Nadal and Rory McIlroy are my favorite athletes and they are not on a team. I root for Lebron wherever he goes. That doesn't mean I am not a real Cavs fan now. If they lose it will kill me. Now I understand those of you who have watched the Cavs your whole lives feel differently about them than I do. But I don't care if you say I am not a real fan of the Browns or A&M. I will be watching and rooting for them same as you.

  • @miktoxic said:

    it almost takes a whole friggin day to drive through TX one side to the other. flat sandy with a little sparkle of water.

    a perfect description of one of my ex's.

    didn't watch the vid but just from the still shot the actor reminds of this guy:

    LOL... that's at least the 10th ex descriptor you've commented on since I've been here.

    ADD? Attention Deficit Divorcee?

    But yeah... coming into Texas from Louisiana on I-10 is a little disheartening. The first mile marker is like "879" or something.

    And actually the actor in the background was a well-known B-movie vet, Kenneth Tobey.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0864851/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t2

    Among his many screen credits was the ranking officer at the Antarctic post in the original "The Thing (from Another World)" which more famously featured James Arness as "The Thing".

    @tour2ma said:

    But yeah... coming into Texas from Louisiana on I-10 is a little disheartening. The first mile marker is like "879" or something.

    And I was born and lived a few miles from that marker until I left at 12 years old. Lots of mosquitoes (I'm full of DDT from hiding in and out of the fogging machines), barefoot from April to Oct (even in school where folks were so poor they allowed us to go barefoot so they could afford 1 new pair a year or hand me downs), and humidity to beat the band. But when you are raised with no a/c you just get down to a pair of shorts in the summer and they didn't have any "No shirt, no socks ,no service" signs. And nothing smells as good as pine trees except maybe the oil refineries. LOL 😉

  • @tour2ma said:

    But yeah... coming into Texas from Louisiana on I-10 is a little disheartening. The first mile marker is like "879" or something.

    And I was born and lived a few miles from that marker until I left at 12 years old. Lots of mosquitoes (I'm full of DDT from hiding in and out of the fogging machines), barefoot from April to Oct (even in school where folks were so poor they allowed us to go barefoot so they could afford 1 new pair a year or hand me downs), and humidity to beat the band. But when you are raised with no a/c you just get down to a pair of shorts in the summer and they didn't have any "No shirt, no socks ,no service" signs. And nothing smells as good as pine trees except maybe the oil refineries. LOL 😉

    @texasag1969 said:

    And I was born and lived a few miles from that marker until I left at 12 years old. Lots of mosquitoes (I'm full of DDT from hiding in and out of the fogging machines), barefoot from April to Oct (even in school where folks were so poor they allowed us to go barefoot so they could afford 1 new pair a year or hand me downs), and humidity to beat the band. But when you are raised with no a/c you just get down to a pair of shorts in the summer and they didn't have any "No shirt, no socks ,no service" signs. And nothing smells as good as pine trees except maybe the oil refineries. LOL 😉

    huge difference from growin up in ohio right next to the railroad tracks and a mile from sadusky bay/lake erie.

    a regular occurance was getting chased by long haired hippes after dousing their car with 3 inch slabs of ice. got so accustomed to the 'lake effect' winters that going out and fucking around was nothing to us kids.

    now when i go out to walk my dog and temp is under 40 degrees my balls shrivel up into oblivion and the ladies don't give as much love cuz i look like i just got short changed at the marble shack.

  • Hey. It all just aligned in my mind and makes sense now. Johnny. the Aggies. the Manzealots.

    Johnny is the Lone Star.