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  • C Clevfan4life

    @tacosman said:

    Guys, hoyer was always just a temporary stopgap until JF took the field. Nothing more.

    Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

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    @clevfan4life said:

    Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

    No way the browns do that....too expensive.

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      @clevfan4life said:

      Yeah well he's gonna have to be a stopgap for awhile more. Like another 2 years.

      Depending on the last 2 games I could see them resigning Hoyer and going into camp without a set starter...again.

      I hope Johnny kicks it up, but what I saw today was a guy not ready for the NFL yet.

      Regardless, we're going to get 2 more games to evaluate johnny.

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      @bbedward said:

      Depending on the last 2 games I could see them resigning Hoyer and going into camp without a set starter...again.

      I hope Johnny kicks it up, but what I saw today was a guy not ready for the NFL yet.

      Regardless, we're going to get 2 more games to evaluate johnny.

      This team has other needs, and an 8 million dollar backup qb is not compatible with filling those.

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          @bbedward said:

          Depending on the last 2 games I could see them resigning Hoyer and going into camp without a set starter...again.

          I hope Johnny kicks it up, but what I saw today was a guy not ready for the NFL yet.

          Regardless, we're going to get 2 more games to evaluate johnny.

          This team has other needs, and an 8 million dollar backup qb is not compatible with filling those.

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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149
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          @tacosman said:

          This team has other needs, and an 8 million dollar backup qb is not compatible with filling those.

          we need a $20 million dollar QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          they haven't had in the history of this team

          well except Otto and he was a $5000 guy back in the day

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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            Damn Slim, l feel like you're pulling a Jerry McGuire on me. But l'm with you! Hoyer nation!

            But the fine print here. I don't know shit about shit, all l know is what l think l know until l'm told otherwise. I saw an entire team play their guts out last week, and l saw that same team going through the motions today.

            Am l wrong? Please somebody set me straight.

            And Taco, l've had about enough of you. All l want is a goddamn taco from you. Put out or get out bitch.

            Waitaminnute... Stockton?

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              I believe brian exists. But as the qb of the browns moving forward I have my doubts.

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

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                  A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                  It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                  These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

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                  IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                  @tacosman said:

                  A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                  It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                  These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

                  Ha ha, good to have you back man. I could tell by the way you write. All wordy and disregarding of certain shit. Yeah...

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                    @tacosman said:

                    A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                    It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                    These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

                    Ha ha, good to have you back man. I could tell by the way you write. All wordy and disregarding of certain shit. Yeah...

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                    @ibleedbrown said:

                    Ha ha, good to have you back man. I could tell by the way you write. All wordy and disregarding of certain shit. Yeah...

                    Yup, Stocky zombies himself back again.

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                      A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                      It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                      These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

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                      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                      @tacosman said:

                      A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                      It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                      These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

                      You are a presumptuous fucking asshole. Your Aggie Manziel loving ass knows nothing about Browns fans and patience. You sign up today as you said because Manziel was starting and try to tell us about patience as Browns fans? Screw you. Your posts are littered with your arrogant bullshit. If you think his performance in the next two games have no impact on next years draft you are even dumber than your posts.
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                        D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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                        This owner/FO dumped Weeden after a year and a half. Dumped the entire coaching staff after only 1 year, and Stocky boy (tacomeat) thinks that these last 3 games wont " affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way"?? Dumbass

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                          This owner/FO dumped Weeden after a year and a half. Dumped the entire coaching staff after only 1 year, and Stocky boy (tacomeat) thinks that these last 3 games wont " affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way"?? Dumbass

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                          T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                          @d-bone said:

                          This owner/FO dumped Weeden after a year and a half. Dumped the entire coaching staff after only 1 year, and Stocky boy (tacomeat) thinks that these last 3 games wont " affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way"?? Dumbass

                          Dumped after A YEAR AND A HALF....your own words. A year and a half for JF would mean he gets dumped early in the 2016 campaign if he plays as poorly as weeden,

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                            @tacosman said:

                            A lot of fans want instant gratification. They don't want to be patient.

                            It's hilarious to see fans in an Internet forum set THEIR timetable for Johnny to get better....'or else'. Or else what? You might stop watching the games? Stop posting on browns board? Oh the horror....

                            These next two games mean VERY LITTLE for Johnny. I expect him to use them to continue it improve with in game experience, but they certainly don't affect his status as the starter heading into next year in any way.

                            You are a presumptuous fucking asshole. Your Aggie Manziel loving ass knows nothing about Browns fans and patience. You sign up today as you said because Manziel was starting and try to tell us about patience as Browns fans? Screw you. Your posts are littered with your arrogant bullshit. If you think his performance in the next two games have no impact on next years draft you are even dumber than your posts.
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                            T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                            @jcam222 said:

                            You are a presumptuous fucking asshole. Your Aggie Manziel loving ass knows nothing about Browns fans and patience. You sign up today as you said because Manziel was starting and try to tell us about patience as Browns fans? Screw you. Your posts are littered with your arrogant bullshit. If you think his performance in the next two games have no impact on next years draft you are even dumber than your posts.

                            Look I'm not going to stoop to your level....I know you are trying to bait me into it, but I'd just rather not.

                            Manziel is the guy, and as a highly regarded first round draft pick he's going to get awhile. Let's come together to root for him together.

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                              @jcam222 said:

                              You are a presumptuous fucking asshole. Your Aggie Manziel loving ass knows nothing about Browns fans and patience. You sign up today as you said because Manziel was starting and try to tell us about patience as Browns fans? Screw you. Your posts are littered with your arrogant bullshit. If you think his performance in the next two games have no impact on next years draft you are even dumber than your posts.

                              Look I'm not going to stoop to your level....I know you are trying to bait me into it, but I'd just rather not.

                              Manziel is the guy, and as a highly regarded first round draft pick he's going to get awhile. Let's come together to root for him together.

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                              IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                              @tacosman said:

                              Look I'm not going to stoop to your level....I know you are trying to bait me into it, but I'd just rather not.

                              Manziel is the guy, and as a highly regarded first round draft pick he's going to get awhile. Let's come together to root for him together.

                              Right on.

                              So, l know you're all about the QB position, l get that. But what did you think about the rest of the team's performance behind him?

                              I saw a bunch of guys going through the motions. If they won't put it on the line, it really doesn't matter who the QB is.

                              Would you agree?

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                                wish Somebody talked out haslem out of the manziel pick like the guy who talked Jerry Jones out of selecting manziel. Jones right now seems like a genius.

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                                @lbc-mike said:

                                wish Somebody talked out haslem out of the manziel pick like the guy who talked Jerry Jones out of selecting manziel. Jones right now seems like a genius.

                                That may be the first time in history that Jerry Jones and genius have been mentioned in the same paragraph.

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                                  @tacosman said:

                                  Look I'm not going to stoop to your level....I know you are trying to bait me into it, but I'd just rather not.

                                  Manziel is the guy, and as a highly regarded first round draft pick he's going to get awhile. Let's come together to root for him together.

                                  Right on.

                                  So, l know you're all about the QB position, l get that. But what did you think about the rest of the team's performance behind him?

                                  I saw a bunch of guys going through the motions. If they won't put it on the line, it really doesn't matter who the QB is.

                                  Would you agree?

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                                  T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                                  @ibleedbrown said:

                                  Right on.

                                  So, l know you're all about the QB position, l get that. But what did you think about the rest of the team's performance behind him?

                                  I saw a bunch of guys going through the motions. If they won't put it on the line, it really doesn't matter who the QB is.

                                  Would you agree?

                                  Of course....the performance of the team has been up and down from game to game all year.

                                  I think we have a long way to go as a team. But stability at the qb position, which we have now, is one plus at least.

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                                    slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by slimdawg
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                                    True, its Johnnys show the rest of the year. Just like most people, after the Colts game i was ready to see what jf could do. He has a long long way to go. Give him the Romo treatment and he might be OK. I think the Browns would be doin a disservice to themselves if they didnt resign Brian to a mid level contract and get serious about hiring a good QB coach and go from there.

                                    If Brian wants to walk, nothin they can do about that but i bet he wont want his cleveland legacy to end like this. I bet he'd re sign. Just my .02

                                    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                                      True, its Johnnys show the rest of the year. Just like most people, after the Colts game i was ready to see what jf could do. He has a long long way to go. Give him the Romo treatment and he might be OK. I think the Browns would be doin a disservice to themselves if they didnt resign Brian to a mid level contract and get serious about hiring a good QB coach and go from there.

                                      If Brian wants to walk, nothin they can do about that but i bet he wont want his cleveland legacy to end like this. I bet he'd re sign. Just my .02

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                                      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                      @slimdawg said:

                                      True, its Johnnys show the rest of the year. Just like most people, after the Colts game i was ready to see what jf could do. He has a long long way to go. Give him the Romo treatment and he might be OK. I think the Browns would be doin a disservice to themselves if they didnt resign Brian to a mid level contract and get serious about hiring a good QB coach and go from there.

                                      If Brian wants to walk, nothin they can do about that but i bet he wont want his cleveland legacy to end like this. I bet he'd re sign. Just my .02

                                      Why not really, guy who knows the system, won't cost much, and has been effective.

                                      He may prefer to leave if he has a better chance to start somewhere else though.

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                                        @ibleedbrown said:

                                        Right on.

                                        So, l know you're all about the QB position, l get that. But what did you think about the rest of the team's performance behind him?

                                        I saw a bunch of guys going through the motions. If they won't put it on the line, it really doesn't matter who the QB is.

                                        Would you agree?

                                        Of course....the performance of the team has been up and down from game to game all year.

                                        I think we have a long way to go as a team. But stability at the qb position, which we have now, is one plus at least.

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                                        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tacosman said:

                                        Of course....the performance of the team has been up and down from game to game all year.

                                        I think we have a long way to go as a team. But stability at the qb position, which we have now, is one plus at least.

                                        .

                                        You think what we saw today was "stability at the QB position?"

                                        Come on Stock. You know better than that. The rest of the team has to be able to be led by the guy. Did you see that?

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                                          @slimdawg said:

                                          True, its Johnnys show the rest of the year. Just like most people, after the Colts game i was ready to see what jf could do. He has a long long way to go. Give him the Romo treatment and he might be OK. I think the Browns would be doin a disservice to themselves if they didnt resign Brian to a mid level contract and get serious about hiring a good QB coach and go from there.

                                          If Brian wants to walk, nothin they can do about that but i bet he wont want his cleveland legacy to end like this. I bet he'd re sign. Just my .02

                                          Why not really, guy who knows the system, won't cost much, and has been effective.

                                          He may prefer to leave if he has a better chance to start somewhere else though.

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                                          @bbedward said:

                                          Why not really, guy who knows the system, won't cost much, and has been effective.

                                          He may prefer to leave if he has a better chance to start somewhere else though.

                                          When you look at how much cap space we will have going into the offseason, hoyer will cost a lot.

                                          I bet hoyer gets at least 6.5 mill from someone next year. Maybe a decent amt more. He will get more than Kyle orton did this offseason I bet.

                                          We aren't good enough to tie up that sort of cap money when there are other things we could spend it on

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