John Football Excuses Forum....
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QB is the leader of the team.
This is a fan base full of excuses. The folks that called for Manziel to start and bashed Hoyer for everything he isn't is now defending Manziel for the same chit. Bunch of focking hypocrites.
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Anyone that understands football knew Manziel would have trouble making it in this league. His style of play in college will never translate into the NFL.
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
He will need to change his game.
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I'll be in Salem Friday!!
Another David vs Goliath showdown.
HA!.....My daughter was a cheerleader at Marietta....saw a few David and Goliath games myself...all from the David side.....
Except....Goliath always won....
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I'll be in Salem Friday!!
Another David vs Goliath showdown.
HA!.....My daughter was a cheerleader at Marietta....saw a few David and Goliath games myself...all from the David side.....
Except....Goliath always won....
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He was Johnny "College" Football... Now he is just Johnny Jamboogie.
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Goliath is WW, their enrollment is nearly 10k students.
MU has around 1700 students.
Yeah...I get it.....and I hope they get em this year with a little pay back......GO MU!
But if you're from Marietta, Ohio Northern or Muskingum, then MU definitely seems like goliath....really....
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I lived in Belpre for a little bit when I was a baby.
WSS
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Cool... even if I had to Google Gadd.
Started a top 5 drummer thread in an Audio forum years ago. Moon and Mitchell were two I had overlooked. Just did not think of Mitchell "that way" and, brace yourself, never really noticed Moon that much. A fellow member's posts sent me back to my Jimi and Who collections for some serious review.
Moon was the shocker... never heard a drummer pack so much into songs with out intruding on the song. Later I watched a "Behind the Music" or some such on Keith. It was all about how Townsend tried and failed to reign in Moon until he realized that the way Keith stuffed a tune worked.
Billy is just my guy. I know all drummers are ambidextrous to some degree, but Cobham is totally so. Once saw a vid of him playing the same bit on mirror image kits. I've followed him from the relatively unknown group Dreams through John McLaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra and into his solo work. His power, control and timing just blow me away.
Just wish JM's would do the same...
Guess we're back to football now...Cool... even if I had to Google Gadd.
Moon was the shocker... never heard a drummer pack so much into songs with out intruding on the song.
Billy is just my guy. I know all drummers are ambidextrous to some degree, but Cobham is totally so.
Just wish JM's would do the same...
Guess we're back to football now...Gadd is the best drummer you've never heard of.....but heard a million times over the past 40 years.....a taste would be the opening shuffle on Paul Simons 50 ways.....iconic
Moon was a crazy lunatic who played like...well.....Moon. One of a kind personality and drummer, who was absolutely great with the Who, but would never work out for anyone else......
And Cobham....a master technician with complete 4 limb independence....but a bit of an asshole who din't really play my kinda music....I did appreciate him enough though, to add a couple of his old snare drums to my collection......eventually sold em on Ebay tho...
BTW, your drummer list forgot John Bonham (Zep) and his kid Jason is awesome. Saw him last summer with Heart in the Woodlands and they did a ton of Zep songs together. Ann Wilson did a number with them. Rolled my socks down!
Every list deserves John Bonham......If your into Jason and Heart, then check out the Led Zepp tribute they did at the Kennedy Awards(if you haven't already).....an AMAZING rendition of Stairway to Heaven....
Throw was late.
I know....It was sarcasm....
Go BROWNS..........Mt Union..........and JOHNNY!
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To answer a couple of questions-Mike Matthews is a junior and a bit undersized @ 6'2" 290 for an NFL Center-there are other, better ones out there. However there is a younger brother still in HS and rumor has it he will be the best of the bunch barring serious injury. Given how good Jake is that will be hard to follow. Freshman Luke Matthews is a 6'3" 290 lb. OT. starting for Mo. City (Elkins) in Tx.
Ogbuehi made 1st team Walter Camp AA and is a senior-had to move him back to RT when his replacement there was injured I believe. All his experience except for a few early games has been at RG or RT his entire A&M career. Yes, I still think he could help us if he is still available by the time we pick.
PS-if we are really looking for a center (and I hope not since I sure want Mack to recover fully) we would need to find a way to steal Auburn's Reese Dismukes-great player!!
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agreed. what a joke, people turn on Johnny after one game where the rest of the team decided to play their worst game of the year.
Johnny still should be at fault for some things, but he didnt give up 260 yds rushing and 41 minutes of posession.
He still couldnt get much going, but had no help at all, literally none.
Maybe Gordon on 3 catches helped, thats about it.agreed. what a joke, people turn on Johnny after one game where the rest of the team decided to play their worst game of the year.
Johnny still should be at fault for some things, but he didnt give up 260 yds rushing and 41 minutes of posession.
He still couldnt get much going, but had no help at all, literally none.
Maybe Gordon on 3 catches helped, thats about it.
I agree the Bengals defense was amped up with something to prove- but Johnny's grand total was THREE first downs- two of the five were by penalty. Pathetic, even for a first NFL start.
Anyone that understands football knew Manziel would have trouble making it in this league. His style of play in college will never translate into the NFL.
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
He will need to change his game.
I'm afraid it's too late for that. We've seen the pounding square pegs into round holes approach fail over and over.
He was Johnny "College" Football... Now he is just Johnny Jamboogie.
LOL beat me to that one- I saw one of the Board members post it on Facebook too. As Jimmy Johnson would say- "you talked the talk Johnny- now it's time to walk the walk."
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Merrill Hoge is a guy who is puffing his chest out because he said Manziel wouldn't be good. He's a classic example of a guy who throws a bunch of shit at the wall and hopes that one thing sticks. He's the same guy who was adamant about the Colts taking RGIII over Luck and Cam Newton never leading a winning football team. Sorry but that smug look he gets makes me want to punch him through the television.
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Merrill Hoge is a guy who is puffing his chest out because he said Manziel wouldn't be good. He's a classic example of a guy who throws a bunch of shit at the wall and hopes that one thing sticks. He's the same guy who was adamant about the Colts taking RGIII over Luck and Cam Newton never leading a winning football team. Sorry but that smug look he gets makes me want to punch him through the television.
Merrill Hoge is a guy who is puffing his chest out because he said Manziel wouldn't be good. He's a classic example of a guy who throws a bunch of shit at the wall and hopes that one thing sticks. He's the same guy who was adamant about the Colts taking RGIII over Luck and Cam Newton never leading a winning football team. Sorry but that smug look he gets makes me want to punch him through the television.
Let's face it.
The odds aren't good for a QB that's under 6 feet with a weak arm in this league. Throw in the fact that he thinks he can outrun everyone will only make matters worst.
You got to say though...he does make things interesting. Fail or succeed.
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and people wonder why it looked as though the players looked as though they gave up last week.
these last 2 games are auditions for manziel and the depth guys and no one else.
you don't think the players know that?
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@everlastingxxx said:
This might be good for Manziel. Imagine if he came in and lit it up right away? Look at RG3. He came in, was great and was given the key to the city. Look at him now, complete mess. Look at Kap, he looks horrible after looking so great last season. Might be good for Manziel to shit down his leg these final games. Realize that he has to stop the parting, mature and work his ass off in the off season.
You make it sound as if Kaep and RG3 don't want to be better QB's. They most certainly do. But they won't be. You have to have a combination of god given talent and hard work. Having one or the other isn't enough to be great at QB.
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@everlastingxxx said:
This might be good for Manziel. Imagine if he came in and lit it up right away? Look at RG3. He came in, was great and was given the key to the city. Look at him now, complete mess. Look at Kap, he looks horrible after looking so great last season. Might be good for Manziel to shit down his leg these final games. Realize that he has to stop the parting, mature and work his ass off in the off season.
I don't see a scenario where absolute suckage is a good thing for Johnny.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Might be good for Manziel to shit down his leg these final games. Realize that he has to stop the parting, mature and work his ass off in the off season.
That happens and we won't have to worry about Johnny as our QB next year.
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@everlastingxxx said:
This might be good for Manziel. Imagine if he came in and lit it up right away? Look at RG3. He came in, was great and was given the key to the city. Look at him now, complete mess. Look at Kap, he looks horrible after looking so great last season. Might be good for Manziel to shit down his leg these final games. Realize that he has to stop the parting, mature and work his ass off in the off season.
I don't see a scenario where absolute suckage is a good thing for Johnny.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Might be good for Manziel to shit down his leg these final games. Realize that he has to stop the parting, mature and work his ass off in the off season.
That happens and we won't have to worry about Johnny as our QB next year.
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Johnny Football....I really feel bad for this kid. I've never in my life, seen the national media, pile on, and make a joke of any other particular athlete, for having a bad game. This could easily be his demise, before he ever gets started. I haven't been a big supporter of Manziel's, but would love to see him succeed. How the hell is it that there are so many of you idiots who say you're Browns fans, but are happy about the way JF played?? It will be a miracle if this kid can recover from this stuff. If I were Pettine, I wouldn't play him again, except in a back up role....if Hoyer gets hurt. We're not going anywhere this season, and we're obviously regressing, so what's the big deal?
Johnny Football....I really feel bad for this kid. I've never in my life, seen the national media, pile on, and make a joke of any other particular athlete, for having a bad game.
The bigger they are...
@everlastingxxx said:
This might be good for Manziel.
Attaboy... I also heard that JM did not nail the Snickers commercial in one take... and look how that turned out.
Zombo said:
Lmao. If must be mid-week, because my anger is turning to laughter. By Friday I will have elfboy routing DA and the Panthers in a shootout.
LOL... talk about being between a rock and a hard place.
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