Deep Thoughts ... By Berniedenslow
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"Were" is the key word there. Hoping they can pan out and a good one isn't missed in the draft. My guess is they'll go after a stud O-Lineman first.
why wouldn't they was the question? what "besides" the line would cause 3(not 1) running backs to suddenly gain less yards?.....
do you actually believe that running back is a need position? ....and we should use our 1st round pick on this position?.... even when we have - not 1, but 2 - rookies who performed really well there?
why wouldn't they was the question? what "besides" the line would cause 3(not 1) running backs to suddenly gain less yards?.....
do you actually believe that running back is a need position? ....and we should use our 1st round pick on this position?.... even when we have - not 1, but 2 - rookies who performed really well there?
As any football fan knows, all teams lean for their success on the O and D lines. This one was solid and when it was so was Hoyer and the rookie RB's. Think they'll pull the plug on them as they did Hoyer?
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1st wish for a cleveland brown board member is to have you banned because of your stooooooooopid fucking threads.
put the black trash bags over your window and turn the ventilator up to high kid cuz the cops in WV can smell meth cooking from miles away.
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1st wish for a cleveland brown board member is to have you banned because of your stooooooooopid fucking threads.
put the black trash bags over your window and turn the ventilator up to high kid cuz the cops in WV can smell meth cooking from miles away.
1st wish for a cleveland brown board member is to have you banned because of your stooooooooopid fucking threads.
put the black trash bags over your window and turn the ventilator up to high kid cuz the cops in WV can smell meth cooking from miles away.
You run this fuckin' thing or what? What's with all the censorship threats here? You guys are about as humorless as a case of anal cancer............
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Liven things up a bit...
Berniedenslow...
Manzier just made a higher quality post than all yours put together and it only has 5 words. Take notes sir.
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Probably can't answer that one - just seems with such an investment in Charlie Manziel, I only wonder if Hasbeen put any pressure on the staff to get him in. Coaching staff hasn't been around to really even guess.
I have no clue what you're even talking about with the coaching staff.....
but I guess since you started the thread about "hasbeen", then I thought you might have an idea or opinion on why you're implying he's the problem...
I think the whole world put pressure on coach to start JFF. But IF Haslem did(as you suggest), then what "changes" would he be making(as asked in the opening post?)....you think he's gonna change himself?
I have no clue what you're even talking about with the coaching staff.....
but I guess since you started the thread about "hasbeen", then I thought you might have an idea or opinion on why you're implying he's the problem...
I think the whole world put pressure on coach to start JFF. But IF Haslem did(as you suggest), then what "changes" would he be making(as asked in the opening post?)....you think he's gonna change himself?
Hasbeen made his zillions by being a shrewd, bottom line businessman. He's a player in this new era of get rich quick - quick results era. I don't think that applies to rebuilding a sports team. Remember the Herschel Walker trade Dallas made and the Vikings sold out tons of draft picks to them - and Jerry Jones put together a juggernaut with that? That took what, 2-3 years? Coaching staff? It's just about as fresh as a function machine as can be having just been put together by Coach Pedigree and they've done a hell of a job. There's no way to prove it, but I got to think that the staff was "leaned on" from the top to get Johnny Money in there at the first opportune moment, except that I don't think this WAS the opportune moment. I believe the coaching staff wanted to ride the storm out with Hoyer, and why not? Head Coach Pedigree knows football, knows Hoyer's struggles directly correlated with the team's struggles. Like I said, can't prove it, but I think that's what happened. And I'm sorry, rebuilding takes forward thinking in the long term and patience. I've seen neither with the Hasbeen era, nor any other era since 1999.
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I still don't understand what haslam has done wrong and what you wanna do about it. Wanna buy it from him?
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I still don't understand what haslam has done wrong and what you wanna do about it. Wanna buy it from him?
I still don't understand what haslam has done wrong and what you wanna do about it. Wanna buy it from him?
If I had dumb money like him, heck yea, what football fan wouldn't? As for what can be done? I don't know - 8 home games a year, not like Hasbeen has to worry about filling the stands. I said over and over I can't prove anything and only going off what Bernie and Couch said and others have speculated, but he should leave football to the football people and no one else!
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I still don't understand what haslam has done wrong and what you wanna do about it. Wanna buy it from him?
If I had dumb money like him, heck yea, what football fan wouldn't? As for what can be done? I don't know - 8 home games a year, not like Hasbeen has to worry about filling the stands. I said over and over I can't prove anything and only going off what Bernie and Couch said and others have speculated, but he should leave football to the football people and no one else!
Every owners going to have a finger in the pie. From what I've seen he's pretty much stayed out of football decisions leaving them to Farmer. Yes you could speculate he hand selected Manziel and forced pettine to start him. But that's just that - speculation.. From what I've seen almost everybody wanted to see Johnny after Indy. Our offensive coordinator has been praising him for weeks, why would you assume haslam was the only supporter of what was apparently an awful decision in Bernie's eyes, Couch's eyes, and your eyes.If I had dumb money like him, heck yea, what football fan wouldn't? As for what can be done? I don't know - 8 home games a year, not like Hasbeen has to worry about filling the stands. I said over and over I can't prove anything and only going off what Bernie and Couch said and others have speculated, but he should leave football to the football people and no one else!
Also, what does Bernie Kosar know about Jimmy Haslam? Or Tim Couch? They have no association with him.
We're on the verge of a winning season in really what's his second year of ownership, after how many losing seasons with Lerner?
Give it a rest already. We're going in the right direction.
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Farmer and Pettine are miles better than the fustercluck of HC/GM combinations we've had for the last 10 yrs.
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Plz step away from the crack pipe.
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I admitted I was wrong about Gilbert. I think he'll become a stud next year. As for West, I haven't seen enough of him or Crowell with them splitting time. I would like for Crowell to get the majority of touches to establish the run ala Demarco Murray. The talent is there though so no need to panic there. I do believe Pettine has the players buying into the system. And you can't expect a 4-12 team to suddenly become a dynasty. If we stick to the plan that Farmer and Pettine have in mind it will come. It will be very interesting before the draft to see what happens in free agency.
My only gripe last year was,losing TJ Ward. He knocked Jermichael Findley into another time zone and Gronkowski had to have surgery.
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I don't think Pettine is going to be around all that long
You are also still praising JFF and his playmaking ability as if he hasn't played and looked like dog shit already. I defended him after the game because the team did suck, but you're still all over his midget dick. I'm beginning to question your football knowledge at all.
Every indication is that pettine will be around for a while. What would make you think otherwise?
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Zombo said:
You don't have to start a thread every time your Mom lets you play with her IPad.
Z
BAH HAHAHAHAHA that was good
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Did the Browns go to his pro day? He had a below average performance and Mike Mayock trashed him all day every day up until the draft. Maybe Mayock is taking kick backs like Mel Kiper Jr.
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I don't think Pettine is going to be around all that long
You are also still praising JFF and his playmaking ability as if he hasn't played and looked like dog shit already. I defended him after the game because the team did suck, but you're still all over his midget dick. I'm beginning to question your football knowledge at all.
Every indication is that pettine will be around for a while. What would make you think otherwise?
You are also still praising JFF and his playmaking ability as if he hasn't played and looked like dog shit already. I defended him after the game because the team did suck, but you're still all over his midget dick. I'm beginning to question your football knowledge at all.
Every indication is that pettine will be around for a while. What would make you think otherwise?
His general indecisiveness. His lack of any star power working for a guy who already shitcanned someone very early who also didn't have pull. You guys are creaming yourself over this 8-8(best case) record, but it could have easily been 6-10 or so if you flip the pathetic NFC south schedule for another.
Pettine also put himself behind the 8 ball waiting on JF for so long- had he just started JF, he might still have a tiny bit of time to right the ship with his own guy if JF doesn't pan out. Now, because he's already a year in, if JF doesn't pan out that, means his clock will be pretty much over at that point too
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