Jonathan Paul Manziel
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an aggie terrorist attack.
glad no trees were injured in the making of this film.
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Depends. Maybe there's still first round value hidden in Johnny. Right now, I don't know what the value is.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Denial of what? Manziel actually looked better this week. I thought he improved, too bad he got injured. I was just very disappointed that he didnt get a better chance to prove so many of the haters wrong. It will have to wait till next season.
That said, i think the Browns are an up and coming team. I wish most Brown fans were a little more optimistic about the future. So much negativity here. Brings me down.
Damn... has 2015 camp opened already? Time flies...
Denial of the truth.
Did you not read your review of your second pass at the CIN game? You know... the one JM started?
I did.
Negativity? Us? Nah... High on the team... just not high enough to carry JM to competency.
Go Browns... Fuck dem Cowboys...
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Maybe a team is in dire need of a noodle armed attention seeker?
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hate the cowboys but hate the seahawks more..........
dallas and NE superbowl? the 2 america's teams.
eff.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Denial of what? Manziel actually looked better this week. I thought he improved, too bad he got injured. I was just very disappointed that he didnt get a better chance to prove so many of the haters wrong. It will have to wait till next season.
That said, i think the Browns are an up and coming team. I wish most Brown fans were a little more optimistic about the future. So much negativity here. Brings me down.
Damn... has 2015 camp opened already? Time flies...
Denial of the truth.
Did you not read your review of your second pass at the CIN game? You know... the one JM started?
I did.
Negativity? Us? Nah... High on the team... just not high enough to carry JM to competency.
Go Browns... Fuck dem Cowboys...
@everlastingxxx said:
Damn... has 2015 camp opened already? Time flies...
Denial of the truth.
Did you not read your review of your second pass at the CIN game? You know... the one JM started?
I did. I have no idea what you are talking about.
Negativity? Us? Nah... High on the team... just not high enough to carry JM to competency. Its not your choice to decide (thankfully). Lets see what ownership/gm/coaches decide. I think they are pretty high on him still.
Go Browns... Fuck dem Cowboys... NFC East Champs buddy!
I'm here to help...
@everlastingxxx said:
Just rewatched the game (well the Browns offense). Not as bad as i thought for Manziel. Some real positives and of course negatives. I think many of us owe Hoyer an apology because this offense, doesnt do shit to help their QB. That was my impression. Too many breakdowns on the o-line, WRs dont get open and dont fight for the ball, running backs not knowing the play calls, stupid penalties, blow plays. I mean, it was just poor execution on the entire offense. I thought the Bengals played everything perfect. Manziel missed a few throws, mostly because he hesitated. I think he sat in the pocket and went through his reads. Made some nice throws on the run. His foot work is his own style, if you wanted perfect foot work you should have drafted another QB. My prediction is he plays much better next week. I dont know if the offense will score alot of points but i think Johnny wont hesitate as much. I know the forum is losing its fucking mind, but i feel good about him still. Lots to stay positive about.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Just happy Cowboys made the playoffs. Been too damn long. Would be nice to get a bye but its unlikely. Seahawks are playing at a championship level. I think the winner of the NFC will win the Super Bowl.
unless it's someone from the nfc south. lol.
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wtf is a romo spin? how he spins it like walter when he has a bad game?
i know you youngins love the 'new' nfl but if you would all just step back and look at the league rationally who are the best teams and what are they built upon?
offensive and defensives lines and the running game...you're right. so this scrambling qb bullshit is just that.
bullshit.
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yes.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Sorry brah, i know what i typed. I dont see denial. I think i gave a pretty good rational response to what i saw.
Bottom line. You like conventional pocket passers. Me, I like the Romo spins, Wilson scrambling type stuff. I love it, its exciting to watch and it works when used at the right time.
Denial of denial is at least consistent.
Yet, I like Russell Wilson, but mostly I admire a QB with skill at his craft... and wins.
Later... "brah"
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@everlastingxxx said:
Id give up a second rounder. Claiborne sucks btw. He is a bust. You could probably get Bruce Carter too.
Then by all means, please call Jerrah...
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Manziel is 22 years old right. He's just a kid. Give him some time to develop. There is no rush on Manziel. Don't give in to the Manzielmaniacs of there. You bring Hoyer back for a Veteran Journeyman's salary, nothing more, if he wants to be here then good. We need a serviceable QB. If you can hit on Mariota or whoever he is then strike. Keep striking on QB's until we find the next big one. We missed on Carr, I believe. But, Manziel just has some developing to do. He started this season really late and under immense pressure, under playoff implications and being the second coming and all that. He will do fine in an offseason training program and come back stronger and faster, with an offense suited to his strengths, with players capable to capitalize on his abilities. Find a way to sign Mike Evans.
Really Evans made a ton of plays for Manziel, but it wasn't just Evans. Manziel must have cohesion within the offense. They have to sync and come back to the QB, make plays in a freestyle manner when he's scrambling. That is going to be the hardest part, finding the guys able to do that. High football IQs and big bodies, good hands; no, great hands. We also have been spoiled with Alex Mack. What a tank. Losing him was like losing half the country in a war. What an impact a player like that has. Even Joe Thomas struggled without Mack anchoring the line.
Gotta get some really good "big uglies" to finish that damn line, once and for all.
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Depends. Maybe there's still first round value hidden in Johnny. Right now, I don't know what the value is.
Depends. Maybe there's still first round value hidden in Johnny. Right now, I don't know what the value is.
You guys are insane.
Right now, nobody is going to give up anything for JF. Be realistic. What has he done-to date- to warrant, even, a 7th Round pick.
I am not ready to chalk up JF as 'another Browns' First Round Bust" but, the fact of the matter is, his value is virtually non-existent at this point.
Next year will be a better indicator.
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Manziel is 22 years old right. He's just a kid. Give him some time to develop. There is no rush on Manziel. Don't give in to the Manzielmaniacs of there. You bring Hoyer back for a Veteran Journeyman's salary, nothing more, if he wants to be here then good. We need a serviceable QB. If you can hit on Mariota or whoever he is then strike. Keep striking on QB's until we find the next big one. We missed on Carr, I believe. But, Manziel just has some developing to do. He started this season really late and under immense pressure, under playoff implications and being the second coming and all that. He will do fine in an offseason training program and come back stronger and faster, with an offense suited to his strengths, with players capable to capitalize on his abilities. Find a way to sign Mike Evans.
Really Evans made a ton of plays for Manziel, but it wasn't just Evans. Manziel must have cohesion within the offense. They have to sync and come back to the QB, make plays in a freestyle manner when he's scrambling. That is going to be the hardest part, finding the guys able to do that. High football IQs and big bodies, good hands; no, great hands. We also have been spoiled with Alex Mack. What a tank. Losing him was like losing half the country in a war. What an impact a player like that has. Even Joe Thomas struggled without Mack anchoring the line.
Gotta get some really good "big uglies" to finish that damn line, once and for all.
Gotta get some really good "big uglies" to finish that damn line, once and for all.
only part of your post that made any sense.
'hit on mariota?' you are fucking kidding me right?
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