Connor Shaw
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Shaw will be just more cannon fodder. Until this team puts an emphasis on the line of scrimmage, we are doomed to losing football. Jesus Christ himself would get creamed back there. No time to pass. No holes to run through. Give me a bad assed O line and I show you how an average QB can look great. Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Lets try something different for once.
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Randall Cobb... T. Y. Hilton....Odell Beckham, Jr. ...
need dynamic wr playmakers. Don't have any. Except Gordon, who
is a knucklehead.
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Shaw will be just more cannon fodder. Until this team puts an emphasis on the line of scrimmage, we are doomed to losing football. Jesus Christ himself would get creamed back there. No time to pass. No holes to run through. Give me a bad assed O line and I show you how an average QB can look great. Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Lets try something different for once.
Give me a bad assed O line and I show you how an average QB can look great. Lets try something different for once.
You mean more "bad assed" than the #1 O-line we saw play into the 2nd Steeler game?
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I'd actually like to see Shaw in a real game. He seems to be a good mix between Hoyer and Manziel. A little more mobile than Hoyer, but processes quicker than Manziel.
I just don't see Manziel processing what's happening in front of him quickly enough.
He's dial up in a high speed league.
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I'd actually like to see Shaw in a real game. He seems to be a good mix between Hoyer and Manziel. A little more mobile than Hoyer, but processes quicker than Manziel.
I just don't see Manziel processing what's happening in front of him quickly enough.
He's dial up in a high speed league.
I just don't see Manziel processing what's happening in front of him quickly enough.
He's dial up in a high speed league.
Well done, sir...
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Neither can Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, or Doug Flutie.
Manziel is no Russell wilson or drew Brees
Manziel is no Russell wilson or drew Brees
He can't grow taller or improve his arm strength...so for the sake of comparison in this instance, he is. None of them can grow taller. None of them have elite arm strength. All of them had height/arm concerns. All of them are legitimate NFL quarterbacks in spite of those concerns. Regardless of his mental acuity, from a physical standpoint he is in the exact same boat as they are. They overcame their physical limitations by being smart, efficient quarterbacks. Manziel tries to overcome by running and improvising.
Remains to be seen whether or not he can follow in their footsteps and realize the game is more than "run around and find an open man".
"[NAME REDACTED] is this year's big-time question mark at quarterback. Unlike those who have held this title in the past, [NAME REDACTED] is a stellar passer who shows arm strength and accuracy when he is able to deliver the ball without a hitch.[NAME REDACTED]'s height will be his biggest inhibitor at the next level... It remains to be seen if he can throw effectively from the pocket at the next level."
"Plays in the spread offense, taking the bulk of his snaps from the shotgun... Tends to side-arm his passes going deep...Lacks accuracy and touch on his long throws... Seems more comfortable in the short/intermediate passing attack...Does not possess the ideal height you look for in a pro passer, though his ability to scan the field helps him compensate in this area...Will improvise and run when the passing lanes are clogged, but tends to run through defenders rather than trying to avoid them to prevent unnecessary punishment."
Can you pick which one of those scouting reports was about Manziel and which was about Wilson?
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Randall Cobb... T. Y. Hilton....Odell Beckham, Jr. ...
need dynamic wr playmakers. Don't have any. Except Gordon, who
is a knucklehead.
Randall Cobb... T. Y. Hilton....Odell Beckham, Jr. ...
need dynamic wr playmakers. Don't have any. Except Gordon, who
is a knucklehead.
There's more dynamic playmakers than last year's #1 WR in the NFL? Wow. How is that working out for him now, by the way.
Dynamic WR's can't do anything when the ball doesn't get to them. QB's can't do anything if they're getting sacked.
You can put Sammy Watkins across from Gordon with Beckham in the slot and Gronk at TE...doesn't matter. If the QB can't get them the ball, they are absolutely worthless. It's weird...nobody was complaining about our WR corps in Week 6.
When would you like us to draft this dynamic WR? First round?
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If Connor Shaw pitches this Sunday, he arguably won't have an adequate amount of time to prepare. As such, it will probably be difficult to determine anything from his effort. However, I was impressed with his play in the pre-season, actually surprised that he was as good as he showed. I'm hoping this wasn't mis-leading, and am looking forward to a surprising finish to the season - one that will keep the tongues wagging over who should be the QB in 2015.
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I would love Shaw to be our Tom Brady, lord knows we could use that.
Not holding my breath obviously.
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I just bet Conner Shaw doesn't look nearly as overwhelmed as Manziel in his first start. At the very least, I believe he's been paying attention in the meeting room more than Manziel. I recall before the first Cincy game that Hoyer mentioned he'd asked "Conner to do some of the pre scouting" for him since it was a short week. He then quickly added."and Johnny." It caught my ear at the time that it seemed Brian had more trust in Shaw than he did Johnny.
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I just bet Conner Shaw doesn't look nearly as overwhelmed as Manziel in his first start. At the very least, I believe he's been paying attention in the meeting room more than Manziel. I recall before the first Cincy game that Hoyer mentioned he'd asked "Conner to do some of the pre scouting" for him since it was a short week. He then quickly added."and Johnny." It caught my ear at the time that it seemed Brian had more trust in Shaw than he did Johnny.
I just bet Conner Shaw doesn't look nearly as overwhelmed as Manziel in his first start. At the very least, I believe he's been paying attention in the meeting room more than Manziel. I recall before the first Cincy game that Hoyer mentioned he'd asked "Conner to do some of the pre scouting" for him since it was a short week. He then quickly added."and Johnny." It caught my ear at the time that it seemed Brian had more trust in Shaw than he did Johnny.
I agree. I would bet real cash that he will be noticeably better than Johnny was.
Not saying he'll be great or win. Just that he will look like he at least has potential....belongs on the field....
Hey it might have been preseason, but in the game that he played, he went 8-9 with a completely collapsing O line and 3rd string receivers.....the 2 things that presumably did JFF in....
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I just bet Conner Shaw doesn't look nearly as overwhelmed as Manziel in his first start. At the very least, I believe he's been paying attention in the meeting room more than Manziel. I recall before the first Cincy game that Hoyer mentioned he'd asked "Conner to do some of the pre scouting" for him since it was a short week. He then quickly added."and Johnny." It caught my ear at the time that it seemed Brian had more trust in Shaw than he did Johnny.
I agree. I would bet real cash that he will be noticeably better than Johnny was.
Not saying he'll be great or win. Just that he will look like he at least has potential....belongs on the field....
Hey it might have been preseason, but in the game that he played, he went 8-9 with a completely collapsing O line and 3rd string receivers.....the 2 things that presumably did JFF in....
Hey, it might have been preseason, but he went 8-9 with a completely collapsing O line and 3rd string receivers.....the 2 things that presumably did JFF in....
Somebody posted his preseason action and l watched it with much interest. Like 3 times. I distinctly saw him look one way, and then the OTHER way for an open man. I was very fired up about that. I also liked that when the pocket collapsed, he ran FORWARD. Good choice.
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expect two things from shaw (if your fo ever lets him play)
wins, and a low amount of ints
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expect two things from shaw (if your fo ever lets him play)
wins, and a low amount of ints
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LOL that was good steve
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No matter how you slice it, it's pretty sad looking at the QB situation week 1 that we'll be likely starting 3 QB's again this year.
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I would love Shaw to be our Tom Brady, lord knows we could use that.
Not holding my breath obviously.
I would love Shaw to be our Tom Brady, lord knows we could use that.
Not holding my breath obviously.
^This. All hopes and dreams, but for now that's all we have, isn't it?
No matter how you slice it, it's pretty sad looking at the QB situation week 1 that we'll be likely starting 3 QB's again this year.
Hey, it's holiday tradition that we are forced to start the 3rd string QB by season's end!
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Randall Cobb... T. Y. Hilton....Odell Beckham, Jr. ...
need dynamic wr playmakers. Don't have any. Except Gordon, who
is a knucklehead.
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TimCouch blah blah
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I just listed the first three that came to mind, about players we need to get on this team next year.
It's nice to know you know that the wr's have to have a qb that can throw them the ball. Bout time you came around, eh?
Injuries, and qb play, and lack of intuitive wr play, are holding this offense back. One of the ex football guys said the Browns
wrs weren't doing anything to help out their qb. And one of the wr's earlier in the year, obviously not Gordon, admitted it wasn't all
the qb, that they were making mistakes. Need smarter, instinctive wr's. And injuries to the Browns first two centers hurt the Browns alot.
The offense has lost it's confidence. And losing Taylor and Hughes and Haden....
and apparently needing a new special teams coach... or smarter players. Gordon nearly cost the Browns a TD on that pass
to Cameron, by coming close to holding a defensive player that wasn't going to catch him anyways.
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