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Once again the Browns end a season with a QB mess.

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  • They should give Shaw the start regardless of Hoyer's status. Why get him hurt? He deserves a shot at free agency without worrying about his health. We all know what happened to Sanchez when Rex left him in late in the preseason. Give Shaw the start. Who knows? Maybe he ain't so bad? I'll bet he throws a touchdown.

  • I'm hopeful that Connor Shaw can develop into a better, more consistent Brian Hoyer. The key words here are "better" and "more consistent". I've been a Hoyer supporter throughout, primarily because of his ability to survey the field quickly, make a decision, and deliver the ball on target. At his best, he was a good quarterback. Unfortunately his best was a fleeting thing; his last four games were utter disasters.

    Here's to Shaw getting enough protection on Sunday to show us what he's made of. I'm pulling for this kid.

    @suomi said:

    I'm hopeful that Connor Shaw can develop into a better, more consistent Brian Hoyer. The key words here are "better" and "more consistent". I've been a Hoyer supporter throughout, primarily because of his ability to survey the field quickly, make a decision, and deliver the ball on target. At his best, he was a good quarterback. Unfortunately his best was a fleeting thing; his last four games were utter disasters.

    Here's to Shaw getting enough protection on Sunday to show us what he's made of. I'm pulling for this kid.

    he played above average when we had a running game which was gone as soon as mack got hurt.

  • We were 6-3 and looking good, then we went 1-6 and looked like crap. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Progress????????

    And if Mike Smith wouldn't have called TO we would have lost the last 7 games

  • We can debate semantics, but compared to this exact time last year, I think this team is light years ahead....

    We now have a full defensive backfield, which was considered a weakness last year/// We have some good talent at Running back and last year we had nothing//// We have a few receivers that can catch, while last year we only had Gordon/Cameron/////and we have a MUCH improved front office and coaching staff, compared to Banner/Lombardi/Chud......

    Still work to do, but I dont think there is one group of players that wasn't improved this year, with the exception of our ST -Returner situation, which did get worse

  • OK I will say it. Hoyer is our best option in 2015 at this time. FA Hoyer best out there 2015. Draft: We would give up far to much to get top 3 QB's in draft. We can upgrade our roster with good player's by not reaching.. WR's after draft 2014, all reports out there said we had none. I say we did just fine.. Let's see where the QB's shake off the tree's, With out reaching for them. A lot of QB moves to come.. Go Browns!!

  • We hardly finished good. We went to shit so to speak. QB had a lot to do with it, but our Oline and Defense stank up the stadium. Poor play calling and poor effort also.

  • but at least we have a better record, a great core of players and a stable smart FO and coaching staff.

    don't call me complacent but i am very happy with what happened thisyear and without the injuries i believe we would be playing in the playoffs in the steeler's spot.

    @miktoxic said:

    but at least we have a better record, a great core of players and a stable smart FO and coaching staff.

    don't call me complacent but i am very happy with what happened thisyear and without the injuries i believe we would be playing in the playoffs in the steeler's spot.

    Absolutely. The team got a lot better and hopefully it will again next year.

    We have a very tough schedule so it will need too.

  • We need to sign Hoyer period. Get him some help on the O-line and get 2 6'4" receivers and we win the AFCN for the next decade. No discussion end of story.

    GO BROWNS !

  • Hoyer is gone man... .you really think he wants to be with team after how they treated him? Seriously, he's just doggin this injury because he is done with this organization. I don't blame him at all.

  • Now won't it make you wonder if Shaw comes out and lights it up in this last game...

  • Hoyer is gone man... .you really think he wants to be with team after how they treated him? Seriously, he's just doggin this injury because he is done with this organization. I don't blame him at all.

    @rooster-dick said:

    Hoyer is gone man... .you really think he wants to be with team after how they treated him? Seriously, he's just doggin this injury because he is done with this organization. I don't blame him at all.

    Where do you think he would be better treated?

    And why?

    WSS

  • I don't think we treated him poorly. The only thing we did to him was add JFF to the mix...but we also

    Gave him a contract, then a chance to prove himself, then his first starting job in 6 years and stayed with him for weeks, even after he stunk it up....

    Compared to his last 6 years in the league, Id say he got more good stuff here than anywhere.....