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  • So Manziel is officially out with a bruised labia, but Hoyer kept playing with a seperated shoulder and isnt ruled out this week?

    Got it. Johnny Franchise.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    So Manziel is officially out with a bruised labia, but Hoyer kept playing with a seperated shoulder and isnt ruled out this week?

    I've been wondering how JM would have handled the hit Hoyer took...

    @manzier said:

    fixed

    So beares do shit in the "woulds"?

    @miktoxic said:

    just heard the browns reached out to grossman and he turned them down. lol.

    Just maybe pissed about being cut during TC?

  • @misterpotter said:

    Last game of the season + team suddenly needs a quarterback + NFL career possibly on the line. I suspect Shaw's been dreaming about this opportunity all his life. Shaw will be prepared if he gets the call.

    So Mister Potter......as a gamecocks and Connor Shaw fan, dont you think it's kind of unfair for us to play him now?

    I mean, dont you think he'd rather wait till next year and practice a little bit more?...maybe with the 1st teamers?

    I wonder if Connor is downright pissed off the Browns are forcing this game on him...!

    OR....is he a gamer who knows this is his chance and is excited for the great opportunity and a chance to man up and show his stuff?

    What say you?

    @mudfly said:

    So Mister Potter......as a gamecocks and Connor Shaw fan, dont you think it's kind of unfair for us to play him now?

    I see what you did there... 🙂

    Zombo said:

    Here's the Grossman story:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/rex-grossman-passes-on-browns-offer-with-family-in-town-for-xmas-010333684.html

    I suspect Rexy just completed his tax planning on Saturday and the $53k would have shot it to hell.

    Loved the "Major League" insert...

  • Grossman come to Baltimore and take a beating for a team playing for nothing on a holiday weekend, or sit on a beach with a cocktail and his hot wife? No surprise really.

    A younger guy would be more apt to try and probe something, at Grossman's age doesn't care.

    @bbedward said:

    Grossman come to Baltimore and take a beating for a team playing for nothing on a holiday weekend, or sit on a beach with a cocktail and his hot wife? No surprise really.

    A younger guy would be more apt to try and probe something, at Grossman's age doesn't care.

    Exactly- as a 10+ year vet, if he hasn't been stupid with his money- he's already a millionaire many times over. Doesn't need the $53k that bad.

  • Someone was asking what happens if shaw plays well....

    IF shaw plays well the offseason discussion becomes more complex.

    You'll have the guys who will want him to be the new starter based on a very small sample size as well as guys who will say that he hasn't done enough to prove himself as a starter. Sounds eerily similar to some of the discussions going on last off season.

    Either way, fuck it, let's see what the kid can do. if he's a beast it's like hitting 20k on a 1$ scratch off ticket. If he's dogshit the ticket was only 1$

  • Someone was asking what happens if shaw plays well....

    IF shaw plays well the offseason discussion becomes more complex.

    You'll have the guys who will want him to be the new starter based on a very small sample size as well as guys who will say that he hasn't done enough to prove himself as a starter. Sounds eerily similar to some of the discussions going on last off season.

    Either way, fuck it, let's see what the kid can do. if he's a beast it's like hitting 20k on a 1$ scratch off ticket. If he's dogshit the ticket was only 1$

    @roycerolls said:

    Someone was asking what happens if shaw plays well....

    IF shaw plays well the offseason discussion becomes more complex.

    This place will turn into a circus. The turnstiles will start cranking up. Out goes the Manziel apologists, in comes the SC crowd, we'll all be at each others' throats, naked ladies will be serving pancakes, the ghost of Don Knotts will perform Monty Python skits... It'll be fantastic!

  • WOW turned down by rex grossman of all people. What an embarrassment. Maybe they can convince Vince Young or Josh Freeman to start!

  • Mary Kay Cabot ‏@MaryKayCabot 25m25 minutes ago
    Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabot
    Brian Hoyer 'would be down' right now for Ravens, Connor Shaw will take all reps today http://t.co/szVSqC880Z

    Brian Hoyer 'would be down' right now for Ravens, Connor Shaw will take all reps today http://dlvr.it/7vpLTX


  • Were I a betting man, I be down for Hoyer starting. Guy's a gamer. Supposed to be a Friday decision.

    Were Shaw to play and look good, it might add complexity, having more options tends to do that, but should also add a little more fire to JM's off-season efforts. Then TC can sort everything out.

    I, for one, would enjoy a competition to see who is the best rather than who sucks the least...

  • Were I a betting man, I be down for Hoyer starting. Guy's a gamer. Supposed to be a Friday decision.

    Were Shaw to play and look good, it might add complexity, having more options tends to do that, but should also add a little more fire to JM's off-season efforts. Then TC can sort everything out.

    I, for one, would enjoy a competition to see who is the best rather than who sucks the least...

    @tour2ma said:

    Were I a betting man, I be down for Hoyer starting. Guy's a gamer. Supposed to be a Friday decision.

    Were Shaw to play and look good, it might add complexity, having more options tends to do that, but should also add a little more fire to JM's off-season efforts. Then TC can sort everything out.

    I, for one, would enjoy a competition to see who is the best rather than who sucks the least...

    No QB is going to look good in this scheme, the book is out, penetrate the zone blocking and you stop the browns. I seriously doubt we can stop dumerville and suggs from penetrating. Over/Under 5 first downs by the browns offense on Sunday? I say under.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Were I a betting man, I be down for Hoyer starting. Guy's a gamer. Supposed to be a Friday decision.

    Were Shaw to play and look good, it might add complexity, having more options tends to do that, but should also add a little more fire to JM's off-season efforts. Then TC can sort everything out.

    I, for one, would enjoy a competition to see who is the best rather than who sucks the least...

    No QB is going to look good in this scheme, the book is out, penetrate the zone blocking and you stop the browns. I seriously doubt we can stop dumerville and suggs from penetrating. Over/Under 5 first downs by the browns offense on Sunday? I say under.

    @topdawg31 said:

    No QB is going to look good in this scheme, the book is out, penetrate the zone blocking and you stop the browns. I seriously doubt we can stop dumerville and suggs from penetrating. Over/Under 5 first downs by the browns offense on Sunday? I say under.

    Not as if that's a new angle just for the Browns... or just for the ZBS for that matter. It all comes down to execution. Put a healthy Mack back in the line and I like our chances.

    Speaking of execution...

    John McKay was once asked what he thought about his expansion, Tampa Bay Bucs' Offense's execution...

    "I'm all for it," was his reply.

  • I wish Shaw all the best. Hope he starts. This is a huge opportunity for him. There is no pressure either. Win/Win scenario for Shaw.

  • Were I a betting man, I be down for Hoyer starting. Guy's a gamer. Supposed to be a Friday decision.

    Were Shaw to play and look good, it might add complexity, having more options tends to do that, but should also add a little more fire to JM's off-season efforts. Then TC can sort everything out.

    I, for one, would enjoy a competition to see who is the best rather than who sucks the least...

    @tour2ma said:

    Were I a betting man, I be down for Hoyer starting. Guy's a gamer. Supposed to be a Friday decision.

    Were Shaw to play and look good, it might add complexity, having more options tends to do that, but should also add a little more fire to JM's off-season efforts. Then TC can sort everything out.

    I, for one, would enjoy a competition to see who is the best rather than who sucks the least...

    I'm on board for the Shawshank Redemption to start. Hoyer's a great backup. Manziel is looking like a "oh gee I thought the NFL was just like college" doofus.

    Clarity is needed here. Shaw can't win the starting job in one start- but he sure can win a roster spot with a good showing.

    He plays well, it makes one of the other two very expendable.

  • Didn't we sign thigpen to start on Sunday?

  • Didn't we sign thigpen to start on Sunday?

    @lbc-mike said:

    Didn't we sign thigpen to start on Sunday?

    I hope not- we already know PigPen ain't got "it". Oh hell, resigned 12-23. Maybe as an emergency backup- at least I hope so.

    Pettine would have to be out of his mind to give Thigpen a start ahead of Shaw after being out of football for months, and only a practice or two at most. Tyler just got himself a nice holiday bonus check.

  • If Shaw lit it up, it would be madness. Absolute lovely madness. It would be so great it would be horrific. Absolute lovely horrificness.

  • Can't do too much worse than manziel.

  • @lbc-mike said:

    Didn't we sign thigpen to start on Sunday?

    I hope not- we already know PigPen ain't got "it". Oh hell, resigned 12-23. Maybe as an emergency backup- at least I hope so.

    Pettine would have to be out of his mind to give Thigpen a start ahead of Shaw after being out of football for months, and only a practice or two at most. Tyler just got himself a nice holiday bonus check.

    @hoorta said:

    I hope not- we already know PigPen ain't got "it". Oh hell, resigned 12-23. Maybe as an emergency backup- at least I hope so.

    Pettine would have to be out of his mind to give Thigpen a start ahead of Shaw after being out of football for months, and only a practice or two at most. Tyler just got himself a nice holiday bonus check.

    Agree. No way they give a guy off the street a job. Shaw has at least experience with the playbook. Plus nothing beats real game experience.

    See what he has. I'm optimistic but I'm sure there's a good reason the browns have cut him once.

  • I would start Shaw cause why the fuck not? Hoyer couldn't beat the ravens when our team was good so how can he beat them when we suck?

    @columbusking said:

    I would start Shaw cause why the fuck not? Hoyer couldn't beat the ravens when our team was good so how can he beat them when we suck?

    I could be wrong but I think it was a kicker that cost us the Ravens game.
  • @hoorta said:

    I hope not- we already know PigPen ain't got "it". Oh hell, resigned 12-23. Maybe as an emergency backup- at least I hope so.

    Pettine would have to be out of his mind to give Thigpen a start ahead of Shaw after being out of football for months, and only a practice or two at most. Tyler just got himself a nice holiday bonus check.

    Agree. No way they give a guy off the street a job. Shaw has at least experience with the playbook. Plus nothing beats real game experience.

    See what he has. I'm optimistic but I'm sure there's a good reason the browns have cut him once.

    @usfbrown said:

    Agree. No way they give a guy off the street a job. Shaw has at least experience with the playbook. Plus nothing beats real game experience.

    See what he has. I'm optimistic but I'm sure there's a good reason the browns have cut him once.

    Last week the Texans beat the Ravens with a QB they cut in August and he was out bow hunting that Monday when he got the call.

    Oh WTF am I thinking. . . The Texans have a head coach who studied college footage and put in a number of plays that Keenum was comfortable with. I can't imagine Pettine humbling himself like that. O'Neil is no Crennel either. I just see these morons forcing their will upon instead of working with players. Chalk up loss # 9.

  • @hoorta said:

    I hope not- we already know PigPen ain't got "it". Oh hell, resigned 12-23. Maybe as an emergency backup- at least I hope so.

    Pettine would have to be out of his mind to give Thigpen a start ahead of Shaw after being out of football for months, and only a practice or two at most. Tyler just got himself a nice holiday bonus check.

    Agree. No way they give a guy off the street a job. Shaw has at least experience with the playbook. Plus nothing beats real game experience.

    See what he has. I'm optimistic but I'm sure there's a good reason the browns have cut him once.

    @usfbrown said:

    Agree. No way they give a guy off the street a job. Shaw has at least experience with the playbook.

    Least experience may not be the same as least knowledge...

    @edwardejw said:

    Last week the Texans beat the Ravens with a QB they cut in August and he was out bow hunting that Monday when he got the call.

    Oh WTF am I thinking. . . The Texans have a head coach who studied college footage and put in a number of plays that Keenum was comfortable with. I can't imagine Pettine humbling himself like that. O'Neil is no Crennel either. I just see these morons forcing their will upon instead of working with players. Chalk up loss # 9.

    You mean plays like "HB-Pass"?

    Setting aside the fact that our Defense-minded HC doesn't design shit for the O, it's not a high bar for Shanny to create a plan for Shaw that exceeds Keenum's massive 20/42, 185-yd output with 0 TD and 1 INT.