Dansby and Whitner call out Gilbert

[TexasAg1969]

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/mike_pettine_not_writing_off_1.html#incart_related_stories

[cdl15]

Positive tough love from the veterans on the team. If Gilbert was a true bust they say nothing and concern themselves on younger players that need the motivation. Think about it a second they call out Gilbert and not Johnny. Johnny is a true bust.

[TexasAg1969]

@cdl15 said:

Positive tough love from the veterans on the team. If Gilbert was a true bust they say nothing and concern themselves on younger players that need the motivation. Think about it a second they call out Gilbert and not Johnny. Johnny is a true bust.

Just for you cdl15:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/karlos_dansby_says_johnny_manz.html#incart_story_package

The differences are that JF called himself out and the second being it was two defensive players calling out their defensive teammate who so far has not publicly acknowledged anything needs changing. If you read both articles I think it appears all are surprised (Pettine included) that JF feels he was not doing enough to take it as seriously as his real first time job, not just a game which has come easy at every level until now.

[Cbus Brownie]

@miktoxic said:

what a bunch of flipping fools.

do me a favor. if you want to bitch about something and sound like an adult can you at least get your spelling and grammar up to speed?

You're such a little fucking bitch. Grammar police, really? STFU

[Cbus Brownie]

The 14 draft was worse than the Richardson and Weetard draft. Unreal that we can shit all over 2 first rounders with such consistency.

I'm fucking scared to see who we take next April.

And for those of you who are about to try to stick up for Gilbert or Manziel, wake the F up. You're, AT BEST, wishful thinking. Real evidence shows both are fucking headcases, and fuckin suck.

[Tobalaz]

Here's the real issue.

When you're short on talent, high first round picks are SUPPOSED to be impact players. Gilbert was SUPPOSED to come in, beat out Buster and give us the most feared secondary in the league freeing up an extra person to rush the an/ stuff the run.

It didn't happen.

For such a high profile draft pick to not only fail to make the desired impact, but also fail to even see significant time, REALLY makes our scouting department look like a bunch of idiots.

A first round pick is supposed to be a no brainer, an instant starter unless your team is overflowing with talent, which we're not.

So to blow 2 1st round picks in the SAME YEAR REALLY, REALLY makes the scouting department look like a bunch of morons.

Something is desperately wrong with them, or Jimmy is barking orders and making them look bad. I don't know, pick one.

[BaconHound]

@tobalaz said:

Here's the real issue.

When you're short on talent, high first round picks are SUPPOSED to be impact players. Gilbert was SUPPOSED to come in, beat out Buster and give us the most feared secondary in the league freeing up an extra person to rush the an/ stuff the run.

It didn't happen.

For such a high profile draft pick to not only fail to make the desired impact, but also fail to even see significant time, REALLY makes our scouting department look like a bunch of idiots.

A first round pick is supposed to be a no brainer, an instant starter unless your team is overflowing with talent, which we're not.

So to blow 2 1st round picks in the SAME YEAR REALLY, REALLY makes the scouting department look like a bunch of morons.

Something is desperately wrong with them, or Jimmy is barking orders and making them look bad. I don't know, pick one.

Watch what you say, in here the opinion is you have to be a combination of Superman and a rocket scientist to play corner in the NFL.

[miktoxic]

@cbus-brownie said:

The 14 draft was worse than the Richardson and Weetard draft. Unreal that we can shit all over 2 first rounders with such consistency.

I'm fucking scared to see who we take next April.

And for those of you who are about to try to stick up for Gilbert or Manziel, wake the F up. You're, AT BEST, wishful thinking. Real evidence shows both are fucking headcases, and fuckin suck.

so who are the bad draFT PICKS FROM 2014????

mr. whizit?

[BaconHound]

@miktoxic said:

so who are the bad draFT PICKS FROM 2014????

mr. whizit?

At this point Gilbert and Maniel. Bitonio and Desir seem really good. Kirksey positive and West could be depending on how his attitude and fumbles change.

[RoyceRolls]

So many "clairvoyant" crybaby cunts.

[miktoxic]

i know.

thank god no one just tossed jesus in the nile because he didn't know how to walk on water yet.

[Frenchie]

The draft is the hardest part of NFL football but also the most important. If this team had an average record in the first round, we would be playoff bound for sure. Green Bay is by far the most effective at drafting great players. The Browns need to figure out what they're doing wrong in this area and fix it.

[Westside Steve]

@frenchie said:

The draft is the hardest part of NFL football but also the most important. If this team had an average record in the first round, we would be playoff bound for sure. Green Bay is by far the most effective at drafting great players. The Browns need to figure out what they're doing wrong in this area and fix it.

Again I would lay that blame at the feet of the inconsistency of this franchise. We've certainly had our share of miscues in the draft but when you change the regime as often as we do they will naturally Get Rid of any player that isn't one of their own. We see it regime after regime as we ponder the reasons why they would let [insert name of player who goes on to play well for someone else] go.

Plus when you draft in the top 5 or 10 d misses seeing a lot worse than your 15 through 30.

WSS

[tiamat63]

@baconhound said:

Watch what you say, in here the opinion is you have to be a combination of Superman and a rocket scientist to play corner in the NFL.

Given the rule changes or should I say emphasis on calls - Yeah, you pretty do have to be that combination.

[Kosar_For_President]

Sick of all these fans hitching about everything like girls. Read some of these replies, I could swore they written by teenage girls, what happened to this board when it used to be palpable?

[Cbus Brownie]

@kosar_for_president said:

Sick of all these fans hitching about everything like girls. Read some of these replies, I could swore they written by teenage girls, what happened to this board when it used to be palpable?

About what, periennially taking terrible first rounders? It's part of the problem with this franchise, and it's ridiculous.

[Kosar_For_President]

@cbus-brownie said:

About what, periennially taking terrible first rounders? It's part of the problem with this franchise, and it's ridiculous.

Dude they are rookies. And we had more wins in 13 years with a TON of injuries and people are still whining.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Don't you know, all rookies should be dominant from day one.......

[Westside Steve]

case in point Buster Skrine gets better every year.

WSS

[Kosar_For_President]

@miktoxic said:

i know.

thank god no one just tossed jesus in the nile because he didn't know how to walk on water yet.

Are you saying Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?