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  • F Frenchie wrote on
    #70

    The draft is the hardest part of NFL football but also the most important. If this team had an average record in the first round, we would be playoff bound for sure. Green Bay is by far the most effective at drafting great players. The Browns need to figure out what they're doing wrong in this area and fix it.

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  • F Frenchie

    The draft is the hardest part of NFL football but also the most important. If this team had an average record in the first round, we would be playoff bound for sure. Green Bay is by far the most effective at drafting great players. The Browns need to figure out what they're doing wrong in this area and fix it.

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #71

    @frenchie said:

    The draft is the hardest part of NFL football but also the most important. If this team had an average record in the first round, we would be playoff bound for sure. Green Bay is by far the most effective at drafting great players. The Browns need to figure out what they're doing wrong in this area and fix it.

    Again I would lay that blame at the feet of the inconsistency of this franchise. We've certainly had our share of miscues in the draft but when you change the regime as often as we do they will naturally Get Rid of any player that isn't one of their own. We see it regime after regime as we ponder the reasons why they would let [insert name of player who goes on to play well for someone else] go.

    Plus when you draft in the top 5 or 10 d misses seeing a lot worse than your 15 through 30.

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
  • B BaconHound

    @tobalaz said:

    Here's the real issue.

    When you're short on talent, high first round picks are SUPPOSED to be impact players. Gilbert was SUPPOSED to come in, beat out Buster and give us the most feared secondary in the league freeing up an extra person to rush the an/ stuff the run.

    It didn't happen.

    For such a high profile draft pick to not only fail to make the desired impact, but also fail to even see significant time, REALLY makes our scouting department look like a bunch of idiots.

    A first round pick is supposed to be a no brainer, an instant starter unless your team is overflowing with talent, which we're not.

    So to blow 2 1st round picks in the SAME YEAR REALLY, REALLY makes the scouting department look like a bunch of morons.

    Something is desperately wrong with them, or Jimmy is barking orders and making them look bad. I don't know, pick one.

    Watch what you say, in here the opinion is you have to be a combination of Superman and a rocket scientist to play corner in the NFL.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #72

    @baconhound said:

    Watch what you say, in here the opinion is you have to be a combination of Superman and a rocket scientist to play corner in the NFL.

    Given the rule changes or should I say emphasis on calls - Yeah, you pretty do have to be that combination.

  • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on
    #73

    Sick of all these fans hitching about everything like girls. Read some of these replies, I could swore they written by teenage girls, what happened to this board when it used to be palpable?

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
  • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

    Sick of all these fans hitching about everything like girls. Read some of these replies, I could swore they written by teenage girls, what happened to this board when it used to be palpable?

    Cbus BrownieC Cbus Brownie wrote on
    #74

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Sick of all these fans hitching about everything like girls. Read some of these replies, I could swore they written by teenage girls, what happened to this board when it used to be palpable?

    About what, periennially taking terrible first rounders? It's part of the problem with this franchise, and it's ridiculous.

  • Cbus BrownieC Cbus Brownie

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Sick of all these fans hitching about everything like girls. Read some of these replies, I could swore they written by teenage girls, what happened to this board when it used to be palpable?

    About what, periennially taking terrible first rounders? It's part of the problem with this franchise, and it's ridiculous.

    Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on
    #75

    @cbus-brownie said:

    About what, periennially taking terrible first rounders? It's part of the problem with this franchise, and it's ridiculous.

    Dude they are rookies. And we had more wins in 13 years with a TON of injuries and people are still whining.

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
    Cbus BrownieC 1 Reply
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #76

    Don't you know, all rookies should be dominant from day one.......

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • W Westside Steve wrote on
    #77

    case in point Buster Skrine gets better every year.

    WSS

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i know.

    thank god no one just tossed jesus in the nile because he didn't know how to walk on water yet.

    Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on
    #78

    @miktoxic said:

    i know.

    thank god no one just tossed jesus in the nile because he didn't know how to walk on water yet.

    Are you saying Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
    miktoxicM 1 Reply
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #79

    The Nile was in Judea?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #80

    everything is in judea. you didn't know that?

    can someone ever pleez take the israeli cock out of our president's mouth? hillary?

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #81

    That old dried up puss bucket?

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #82

    Meanwhile back at the thread...

    Seems both of our 1st rounders are singing the same tune...

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_browns_justin_gilber_7.html

    Meanwhile a certain Mr. Skrine that Steve mentioned is in the FA Catbird's seat.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_browns_face_a_decisi.html

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on
    #83

    Give Skrine a good contract. Keep Gilbert and Manziel on an extremely short leash and hope for the best.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #84

    Yep. Think it would be bad business letting Skrine get away. In the article posted by Tour and the video posted below, he basically says what I heard Hoyer saying earlier in the season....." I plan to start".....and he is in EXACTLY the same situation that Hoyer was(is), which is playing ahead of a first round pick.....he knows they WANT Gilbert to play, like Hoyer feels they wanted JFF to play.....

    so....does he sign here and continue to hear about Gilbert or go elsewhere where he "could" be the best CB on the team?

    Watch the video and tell me, based upon his answers, if you think he sounds hesitant about saying he'll be back.....(I do)

    I hear him saying I like it here, but....i want to start at CB and dont want to play nickle....

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Buster_Skrine_I_Really_Love_This_Defense/7b54bb2b-c5a6-4384-a384-ebe7dcfd9a32

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

    @cbus-brownie said:

    About what, periennially taking terrible first rounders? It's part of the problem with this franchise, and it's ridiculous.

    Dude they are rookies. And we had more wins in 13 years with a TON of injuries and people are still whining.

    Cbus BrownieC Cbus Brownie wrote on
    #85

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Dude they are rookies. And we had more wins in 13 years with a TON of injuries and people are still whining.

    Excuses. Nut up. This team was 7-4 and is about to finish at 7-9.

  • R RoyceRolls

    @mudfly said:

    Coach said he regressed and had a bad week of practice, hence the reason Desir started....

    Honestly, I dont care WHO starts and am just happy we have fixed the DB's. The way I see it, we went into the draft trying to fix the CB situation. Picked the one with the highest ceiling, then got a few more as back up. So, as long as Farmer got it covered, who cares which one plays most or is ready to play first.???

    Gilbert may still end up being the best one.....you never know.....

    But if we subscribe to this line of thinking we will have one less thing to wring our hands over. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not comfortable unless there is a doomsday scenario lurking around every corner.

    Furthermore, who are you to say something as silly as "you never know"?! I always know! I can take even the most mundane piece of media flair and plot a no-bones-about-it-set-in-stone prediction prophecy spanning decades.

    Gilbert has been in the league for almost EIGHT MONTHS! He will never be anything more than he is now, book it.

    WHOOOO! complaining makes my dick hard!

    L larryfine wrote on
    #86

    @roycerolls said:

    But if we subscribe to this line of thinking we will have one less thing to wring our hands over. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not comfortable unless there is a doomsday scenario lurking around every corner.

    Furthermore, who are you to say something as silly as "you never know"?! I always know! I can take even the most mundane piece of media flair and plot a no-bones-about-it-set-in-stone prediction prophecy spanning decades.

    Gilbert has been in the league for almost EIGHT MONTHS! He will never be anything more than he is now, book it.

    WHOOOO! complaining makes my dick hard!

    Get Walter to make it soft for you 😆

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Don't you know, all rookies should be dominant from day one.......

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #87

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Don't you know, all rookies should be dominant from day one.......

    Not dominate but playing ahead of 4th round rookies when the position is depleted.

    "True Browns Fans" never blame the talent on the the field, always the coaches

  • MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on
    #88

    Something tells me the Farmer transition isn't going so well.

    For these rookies (Gilbert & Manziel) to behave the way they do with lack of effort and energy speaks volume. There is something culturally wrong in this organization from TOP DOWN.

  • MasterDogM MasterDog

    Something tells me the Farmer transition isn't going so well.

    For these rookies (Gilbert & Manziel) to behave the way they do with lack of effort and energy speaks volume. There is something culturally wrong in this organization from TOP DOWN.

    B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on
    #89

    @masterdog said:

    Something tells me the Farmer transition isn't going so well.

    For these rookies (Gilbert & Manziel) to behave the way they do with lack of effort and energy speaks volume. There is something culturally wrong in this organization from TOP DOWN.

    Totally disagree. Out of all our draft picks and free agent signings, only 2 of them have shown they aren't ready for the NFL. That is NOT indicative of a team culture problem.

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