WINSLOW TRADED!!
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The reason the draft picks are undisclosed is because they suck! If they didn't get at least a 2nd rounder Im gonna be xxxxing pissed! K2 is locked up for some time at a great price and well worth a first rd draft pick. Hell Shockey garnered a 2nd rounder and he is no where near K2! Looks like we'll be signing Chris Baker who doesn't equal K2's xxxxing turd. That or they have faith that Heiden and Rucker can fill his shoes yeah right!
Looks like Mangini was drinkin the koolaid from the Giants game where Winslow didnt play. Next thing we'll hear is DA is going to be the starter next season! GIVE ME A xxxxIN BREAK MANGINA YOU PRICK!
The reason the draft picks are undisclosed is because they suck! If they didn't get at least a 2nd rounder Im gonna be xxxxing pissed! K2 is locked up for some time at a great price and well worth a first rd draft pick. Hell Shockey garnered a 2nd rounder and he is no where near K2! Looks like we'll be signing Chris Baker who doesn't equal K2's xxxxing turd. That or they have faith that Heiden and Rucker can fill his shoes yeah right!
Looks like Mangini was drinkin the koolaid from the Giants game where Winslow didnt play. Next thing we'll hear is DA is going to be the starter next season! GIVE ME A xxxxIN BREAK MANGINA YOU PRICK!
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
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The reason the draft picks are undisclosed is because they suck! If they didn't get at least a 2nd rounder Im gonna be xxxxing pissed! K2 is locked up for some time at a great price and well worth a first rd draft pick. Hell Shockey garnered a 2nd rounder and he is no where near K2! Looks like we'll be signing Chris Baker who doesn't equal K2's xxxxing turd. That or they have faith that Heiden and Rucker can fill his shoes yeah right!
Looks like Mangini was drinkin the koolaid from the Giants game where Winslow didnt play. Next thing we'll hear is DA is going to be the starter next season! GIVE ME A xxxxIN BREAK MANGINA YOU PRICK!
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
i hope you're right. if you are i will find a way to have your babies
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Shame to see K2 go as when injury free was a very good player for us indeed, hopefully Rucker may step in and fill hole as lot of us are hoping he may do.
Can see this as start of quite a few moves in our player personnel, and also have a strange feeling our Number 5 pick, might bring a surprise in store to what many of us think it will be used on.
But hey, this feels like the proper start to the off season, with our first major move. KEEP THEM COMING !!!!!!
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All depends on the picks on whether we're happy today.
Time will tell on the rest.
I think I would have been happier if the news was "Edwards to Tampa".
All depends on the picks on whether we're happy today.
Time will tell on the rest.
I think I would have been happier if the news was "Edwards to Tampa".
I definitely would have been happier, there is no point of keeping braylon, there was DEFINITELY a point to keep winslow.
watch kellen have an amazing season in tampa, this sucks.
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Keep in mind this also frees up $3.6M under the cap.
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The reason the draft picks are undisclosed is because they suck! If they didn't get at least a 2nd rounder Im gonna be xxxxing pissed! K2 is locked up for some time at a great price and well worth a first rd draft pick. Hell Shockey garnered a 2nd rounder and he is no where near K2! Looks like we'll be signing Chris Baker who doesn't equal K2's xxxxing turd. That or they have faith that Heiden and Rucker can fill his shoes yeah right!
Looks like Mangini was drinkin the koolaid from the Giants game where Winslow didnt play. Next thing we'll hear is DA is going to be the starter next season! GIVE ME A xxxxIN BREAK MANGINA YOU PRICK!
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.
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Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.
Masters said:
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.I was thinking 2nd and 4th...but 2nd and 5th is probably more likely...or 2nd, 5th, 7th (TB has 2 this year)...or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
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Zombo said:
How long do you expect not to compete?In today's NFL there is NO excuse for not competing in a coach or regime's second year, let alone the first (Atlanta, Miami)
Zombo
He was down to 10 games last year...and his knee is just getting worse. Even if we compete in 2010...he may be limited to passing downs only...which then takes away his mismatches.
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for an undisclosed draft pick
espn just reported
for an undisclosed draft pick
espn just reported
According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
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Masters said:
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.I was thinking 2nd and 4th...but 2nd and 5th is probably more likely...or 2nd, 5th, 7th (TB has 2 this year)...or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
I was thinking 2nd and 4th...but 2nd and 5th is probably more likely...or 2nd, 5th, 7th (TB has 2 this year)...or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
ManKoK is remaking the team in their image. I don't think they have any sympathy toward existing players at all. They have an image and they are going to get the players that fit their image. Which means we're probably going to stockpile picks.
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Masters said:
No way they gave up a 2nd and 3rd. I think Shefter has it right. It's likely a 2nd and 5th or a 3rd and 5th.I was thinking 2nd and 4th...but 2nd and 5th is probably more likely...or 2nd, 5th, 7th (TB has 2 this year)...or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
or a 2nd this year with a conditional next year.
That is a pretty good theory there too.
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The reason the draft picks are undisclosed is because they suck! If they didn't get at least a 2nd rounder Im gonna be xxxxing pissed! K2 is locked up for some time at a great price and well worth a first rd draft pick. Hell Shockey garnered a 2nd rounder and he is no where near K2! Looks like we'll be signing Chris Baker who doesn't equal K2's xxxxing turd. That or they have faith that Heiden and Rucker can fill his shoes yeah right!
Looks like Mangini was drinkin the koolaid from the Giants game where Winslow didnt play. Next thing we'll hear is DA is going to be the starter next season! GIVE ME A xxxxIN BREAK MANGINA YOU PRICK!
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
Maybe it is TB asking that the picks not be disclosed. Ever think of that? They wanted people to get excited about getting him before they let it out that they gave up a 2nd and a 3rd?
Tampa is obviously rebuilding there is no way they're trading away their 2 and 3 or 2 and 4. They have far too many needs after releasing half their defense and their coach is defensive minded so you know he's not mortgaging their draft for one player. We're getting xxxxed in this deal by a MANKOK!
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for an undisclosed draft pick
espn just reported
According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
wow you really think that he's worth that much? there aren't too many people in the nfl worth that much. accept maybe kellen clemens
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Keep in mind this also frees up $3.6M under the cap.
Keep in mind this also frees up $3.6M under the cap.
For who? You know they aren't going to use if for anything other than bum rookies, yeah! we got two bums for a potential hall of famer!
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for you guys whining about his "shelf life" you act like winslow is kurt warner's age, the guy is 25 and has many great years to come, I am very upset that they traded him.
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According to the browns website winslow was traded to Tampa Bay for undisclosed draft picks. That would be plural. Just for the record, it had better be a
first and third this year and at least a second round next year, other wise Kokinas is a friggin moron. You piss off your pro-bowl nose tackle one week,
and then trade your best offensive weapon the next? REALLY?!?!? If this doesn't pan out we are screwed for years to come!!!
wow you really think that he's worth that much? there aren't too many people in the nfl worth that much. accept maybe kellen clemens
wow you really think that he's worth that much? there aren't too many people in the nfl worth that much. accept maybe kellen clemens
Ok, not the second round next year, but yes, i do think that Winslow is worth a first and a third this year.
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I never questioned his talent, but remember, Butch traded UP to draft him, which was a bone-head move on his part to begin with. The guy has never been a team player, on ANY level he's played at.
Yes, his hands may be second only to L Fitzgerald in the league, but if we can dump a "me me" guy and pick up some picks that have been lost in the process, so be it. Maybe we're planning on running the ball 50+ times a game, and he can't block your grandma.......
I never questioned his talent, but remember, Butch traded UP to draft him, which was a bone-head move on his part to begin with. The guy has never been a team player, on ANY level he's played at.
Yes, his hands may be second only to L Fitzgerald in the league, but if we can dump a "me me" guy and pick up some picks that have been lost in the process, so be it. Maybe we're planning on running the ball 50+ times a game, and he can't block your grandma.......
If we really want to dump a me me guy butterfingers is that guy...k2 at least played with everything he had BE needs to go for whatever we can get for him but his value wont be great but by next year im betting its even lower if he stays....
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
I'm curious as to why they haven't announced the compensation yet.
Two working theories:
- 1. They're waiting until KW passes a physical to announce the picks.
2. There are conditional picks involved, so they're breaking the initial story & leaving the complicated details for later.
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