Trade GORDON and 1st rounder for Garoppolo
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Why didn't we just take Garopallo with the 26th? After Evans or Watkins or Beckham at 4. New England traded Ryan Mallet to Houston and now he's a free agent. The Browns will have a choice of Mallet, Sanchez, Shaub, Hoyer,
Patriot keep a good back up just in case and when he gets older they trade him. The Browns could get Kevin Hogan depending on where they draft. But realistically its going to be a veteran. I like Eddie Goldman, Florida State and Jaelen Strong, Arizona St.
The Patriots scouting report is all over the Internet on Manziel. They questioned is attitude and off field behavior. Belicheck would never take him. They don't need him. Garopallo in my opinion was the best QB in the draft.
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actually we should have taken Mack at 4 and tried to trade up to take a WR. But THAT is hindsight. Had we taken Watkins at 4 no one anywhere would have second guessed it. What Beckham and Evans have done this past year is a little bit more than was predicted, but not Watkins...he's done what people thought he would.
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If we're going only for a free agent QB this offseason, then I'd like to see us go after Sam Bradford. Outside of two freak ACL injuries, the guy still has talent. We have two first rounders to build even more around him than we already have.
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To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
Jerry Jones might take the bait. Manziel and Gordon for Terrance Williams and Zach Martin.To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
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I'd be ok with Bradford if we def lose Hoyer. We could probably get him for not much too. I just don't want another draft or FA overreach. We have too many other pieces that have to fit before we can field decent qb play here. Other teams, they can get their qb and build around him...not here though. Here we have to build a foundation first and then get a QB. Sucks but that's the way it is.
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watkins had 50 something yards today and buffalo didn't make the playoffs.
yeah he did what a lot of people thought he would do. nothing.
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You're fucking stupid.
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Kevin hogan? Is that a joke? He's terrible....he was the weak link on Stanford for like 3 years. Did he even bother to enter the draft? Never once has anyone imagined Kevin hogan as an nfl qb. He's big, but that's it. He can't throw.
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watkins had 50 something yards today and buffalo didn't make the playoffs.
yeah he did what a lot of people thought he would do. nothing.
watkins had 50 something yards today and buffalo didn't make the playoffs.
yeah he did what a lot of people thought he would do. nothing.
and yet he has more than 100 yds more than our leading receiver who's in his 4th year and was catching balls from a hot Hoyer early in the season. It's not a stretch to say two things 1) Watkins would be well over 1000 yds receiving if he was a Brown and 2) he would have made Hawkins and Austin even better.
And not just Watkins, but any of the stud #1's would have made this a vastly better offense. Hawkins and Austin are awesome route runners and short catch guys. They are not Gordon type receivers whom defense's have to give some buffer to or they wheel it downfield for 6. C'mom Mik this is simple football mechanics. Saying a rookie with just under 1000 yds did "nothing" though? C'mon dude. Give the kid some credit.
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To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
You are not allowed to talk about QBs. You have the worst evaluation for the QB position.
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watkins had 50 something yards today and buffalo didn't make the playoffs.
yeah he did what a lot of people thought he would do. nothing.
and yet he has more than 100 yds more than our leading receiver who's in his 4th year and was catching balls from a hot Hoyer early in the season. It's not a stretch to say two things 1) Watkins would be well over 1000 yds receiving if he was a Brown and 2) he would have made Hawkins and Austin even better.
And not just Watkins, but any of the stud #1's would have made this a vastly better offense. Hawkins and Austin are awesome route runners and short catch guys. They are not Gordon type receivers whom defense's have to give some buffer to or they wheel it downfield for 6. C'mom Mik this is simple football mechanics. Saying a rookie with just under 1000 yds did "nothing" though? C'mon dude. Give the kid some credit.
and yet he has more than 100 yds more than our leading receiver who's in his 4th year and was catching balls from a hot Hoyer early in the season. It's not a stretch to say two things 1) Watkins would be well over 1000 yds receiving if he was a Brown and 2) he would have made Hawkins and Austin even better.
And not just Watkins, but any of the stud #1's would have made this a vastly better offense. Hawkins and Austin are awesome route runners and short catch guys. They are not Gordon type receivers whom defense's have to give some buffer to or they wheel it downfield for 6. C'mom Mik this is simple football mechanics. Saying a rookie with just under 1000 yds did "nothing" though? C'mon dude. Give the kid some credit.
i'll give him credit but i ain't suckin his dick.
i just don't get you guys (JF fanboys too) that are on the nutsacks of some kid who plays for another team or on his joint cuz he played for your college team. if he's not on the browns i could give a fuck less what he does. i know a lot of guys wanted watkins but let it go already.
walter wanted watkins, mack, bortles, manziel, matthews etc. etc. too bad they don't hand out 10 first round draft picks at the door of radio city.
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Id take either Beckam or Evans any day over Watkins. I'd consider Kelvin Benjamin too. I guess I can concede he would be an upgrade over Benji or GabrielGeorge C said:
Well, that's pure bullshit. You guys fucked up hard on that one....
Our QB was EJ Manual and Kyle fuckin Orton.
Stick that kid with a real QB who can actually throw a football, and I think your assessment changes.
The kid is a sick route runner, and has the strongest hands in the league.
BTW, there is no way NE gives up Garopollo. Manziel has absolutely no value at all, and Gordon might find another team who may deal with his shit for a month or two before cutting him.
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ok well as long as you're giving credit i'll take the hose off....all I wanted really. lol
ANd again it's not just Watkins it's some form of number one receiver we needed to acquire last season through draft or FA or scanning first energy for a tall black guy who looks like he can run real fast and having come out of the stands to Ric Flairs music. Just something.
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To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
To New England. Throw in Manziel's ass to sweeten the deal.
Would you make that trade?
Gee Walter yet another flip-flop. You were all over Manziel's schlong, and now you want to toss him in a trade deal?
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George C said:
You guys have bigger problems than evaluating Watkins, QBs or any other wide receivers. Shit, that's the least of your problems.
You have to overcome an idiot thief owner, and he has taken a jackhammer to the foundation again.
WTF has Cleveland done to keep attracting these goofball millionaires to buy the Browns?
IMO, Johnny Jamboogie wasn't Farmers or Pettine's call. And your owner was stupid enough to say it was some homeless bums call.
George, if Haslam boogered up one pick- that's the least of our problems. He's sticking with Pettine for at least one more year- as he should. It could be Manziel is rat poison to the team- if he is, he'll be gone as fast as Haslam canned Chud. Haslam is still a relative noob in the NFL owner circle- and is learning the hard way - leave player evaluation to your front office. I suspect there's going to be some bad attitude dead wood cut real soon- and you can have your dream wr tandem with Gordon playing next to Watkins.
Interested? Other than the first round- Farmer's picks were excellent- a lot of guys thought Bitonio played at a pro bowl level. We did well in the FA market too- landed a bunch of solid starter and role palyers.
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we are not a decent team yet...
Well I think we're a decent team when everyone's healthy. But if we can't protect Bradford than he's just gonna come here to die.
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