WINSLOW TRADED!!
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yay here goes another rebuilding season as a browns fan im sick and tired of rebuidling we need to keep the good guys and build around them and trading k2 was not the move to go to first
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So they trade Brady Quinn's favorite receiver and biggest supporter on the team?
This must all be posturing to drive up DAs trade value, no doubt.
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Masters said:
That is a gross exageration on BE. Dude developed gator arms after getting creamed all of the 2007 season. BE is really the player he was in 2007, not the guy we saw in 2008. Not to mention D's went out of their way to take BE out of games.No, BE is the player that you saw in 2008, he had one good year and got cocky, since he went to the pro bowl once, now he thinks he is the greatest ever
and doesn't have to play hard, he is a pro bowler and therefore shouldn't have to try, things are supposed to happen for him. He is a "me me me " player and
a bum at best.
No, BE is the player that you saw in 2008, he had one good year and got cocky, since he went to the pro bowl once, now he thinks he is the greatest ever
and doesn't have to play hard, he is a pro bowler and therefore shouldn't have to try, things are supposed to happen for him. He is a "me me me " player and
a bum at best.
/agree last year we seen the real BE with a big head and me me and more me attitude he played with no heart he essentially quit on the field and was never benched..once a quitter always a quitter..
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that's bullshit, that's seriously bullshit if that's true, I'm gonna vomit if it is.
me too, i will be the official leader of the FIRE KOKINAS chants at all of the games, if that really happened Lerner needs to sell the team before he does anymore
damage, because this is starting to sound like matt millen is running the show
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Masters said:
That is a gross exageration on BE. Dude developed gator arms after getting creamed all of the 2007 season. BE is really the player he was in 2007, not the guy we saw in 2008. Not to mention D's went out of their way to take BE out of games.No, BE is the player that you saw in 2008, he had one good year and got cocky, since he went to the pro bowl once, now he thinks he is the greatest ever
and doesn't have to play hard, he is a pro bowler and therefore shouldn't have to try, things are supposed to happen for him. He is a "me me me " player and
a bum at best.
No, BE is the player that you saw in 2008, he had one good year and got cocky, since he went to the pro bowl once, now he thinks he is the greatest ever
and doesn't have to play hard, he is a pro bowler and therefore shouldn't have to try, things are supposed to happen for him. He is a "me me me " player and
a bum at best.
Not at all. His rookie year after injury and in 2006 he was playing well. He played hard, he just heard foot steps. You would to if you got leveled as many times as DA led him into in 2007.
And how is he me, me, me? Other than his complaining about being hated by fans because of his MICH roots. He has yet to pull a Boldin, TO, or Moss (pre Pats) act. Let's not stretch reality.
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Zombo said:
If that's true, then that is an absolute crappy deal and mankok is a huge 0-1.Trading a play-making, committed, 80-catch-a-year Pro bowl tight end for a third round pick ...
What the ****?
Zombo
Take a deep breath...what commitment? The "me me" stuff is not a commitment. He was hardly a factor last season (yes, not all his fault). He wanted to renegotiate for "lost $$" after ONE good/great season (2007)...he lost that $$ because he violated a simple contract clause (stay away from motorcycles). NEVER has he been a TEAM player.
I hope I'm right, and you're wrong, we'll see.
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Tampa radio saying we got a 3rd and 7th what a crock mankok is stupid lets give braylon away for a 7th if we can that is...
I can't believe there's people thinking we'd get Tampa's first round pick for K2.
Excuse me if I forget to shed a tear for him. He was a great player but had way too many problems with injuries, ego, and whatnot.
Tampa radio saying we got a 3rd and 7th what a crock mankok is stupid lets give braylon away for a 7th if we can that is...
What the hell??? Even I think he's worth more than that. Mangina... what the hell were you smoking?
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So they trade Brady Quinn's favorite receiver and biggest supporter on the team?
This must all be posturing to drive up DAs trade value, no doubt.
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Schefter said Unconfirmed...2nd this year 5th next year...
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NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
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NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
Why not? Thats a hell of a lot better than a 3rd and 7th...
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NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
I love Winslow but that's pretty decent trade value for a guy who won't play into his 30s.
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Schefter said Unconfirmed...2nd this year 5th next year...
what would a 5th rounder next year accomplish? we could have at least gotten a 2nd this year AND next year if we were going to split the picks up. we might as well have traded him for a 2nd rounder this year, a bag of balls and a new pair of cleats. however i do have to say that we got good value for him with the second round pick
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NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
well, this makes the pain much less worse than a 3rd and 7th, at least there is a good chance we can get someone good in the 2nd round.
that being said, im still pissed off and nothing good will probably come out of this.
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Winslow trade
from the Buc's site.
From ESPN:
ESPN.com news services
The Cleveland Browns have traded tight end Kellen Winslow to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for undisclosed draft picks.
"We appreciate his passion for the game and wish him success in Tampa Bay," Browns general manager George Kokinis said in announcing the move. "The draft picks we have obtained through this deal will give us greater flexibility as we look to infuse more talent and create competition and depth on this football team."
Dammit, I liked K2. It sounds like we got multiple picks, we better use them wisely.
From ESPN:
ESPN.com news services
The Cleveland Browns have traded tight end Kellen Winslow to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for undisclosed draft picks.
"We appreciate his passion for the game and wish him success in Tampa Bay," Browns general manager George Kokinis said in announcing the move. "The draft picks we have obtained through this deal will give us greater flexibility as we look to infuse more talent and create competition and depth on this football team."
Dammit, I liked K2. It sounds like we got multiple picks, we better use them wisely.
The Pats seem always to have an abundance of draft picks. The current organization is part of the Belichick / Patriots group.
I imagine they got multiple picks across a couple of years. Good way to build around the core that is already here.
I say good move!!
PS What does this do to the FA and draft stragegy?
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NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
I'll take that...
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NFL Network is reporting the Browns will get a second round pick this year and a fifth round pick next year. I now officially don't agree with this trade.
well, this makes the pain much less worse than a 3rd and 7th, at least there is a good chance we can get someone good in the 2nd round.
that being said, im still pissed off and nothing good will probably come out of this.
well, this makes the pain much less worse than a 3rd and 7th, at least there is a good chance we can get someone good in the 2nd round.
that being said, im still pissed off and nothing good will probably come out of this.
Jasper Brinkley and shonn Green....that would be good!
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Zombo said:
If that's true, then that is an absolute crappy deal and mankok is a huge 0-1.
Trading a play-making, committed, 80-catch-a-year Pro Bowl tight end for a third round pick ...
What the ****? Zombo
Although I said that I like the deal in principle, I assumed a 1st rounder. Maybe a #1 next year? I hope so.
still unconfirmed
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