Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Actually, it would make a huge difference if Manziel WAS out fishing.
I'm seriously wondering if Manziel needs to go to rehab with the partying and drinking.
Bayless is calling Manziel an "alcoholic liar"
Hey, I don't know what Manziel has lied about...ya know what I'm sayin ?
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Bayless was one of Manziel's biggest fan boy.
I'm seeing more and more of his fan boys turning against him now.
It's all starting to collapse right before our eyes.
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Bayless was one of Manziel's biggest fan boy.
I'm seeing more and more of his fan boys turning against him now.
It's all starting to collapse right before our eyes.
Bayless was one of Manziel's biggest fan boy.
I'm seeing more and more of his fan boys turning against him now.
It's all starting to collapse right before our eyes.
Yeah...I bet many manzealots will turn hard on him, as they invested so much effort in defending him...now he's let them all down
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I meant exactly what I said. He was late for a treatment. Big fucking deal. The team collapsed in the Cincinnati game. Peyton Manning would have looked just as bad. He didn't lose that game that was a true team loss, unlike Indianapolis.
Again most of the shit the haters are mad about mean nothing.
If some of you guys weren't on the bitter bandwagon it wouldn't matter if he spent his spare time partying with celebrities, hunting and fishing in the Wisconsin woods, or going to Chuck E Cheese with his fucking wife and kids.
(and who gives a shit number one about what Walter White thinks???)
WSS
If they keep JM and he turns out to be our QB of the future, you can tell me I told you so a million times. Or if they get rid of him and he's wildly successful elsewhere, ditto on that.
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I honestly do not know what to make of this... especially the last bits.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12093069/cleveland-browns-qb-johnny-manziel-says-back-words-action
He said he let his guard down since he wasn't part of Sunday's game plan but that he shouldn't have. Manziel said he was not with Josh Gordon -- who was suspended for missing the walkthrough as an active player -- on Friday night but saw him earlier in the day and was not responsible for Gordon's absence. Manziel said he went out with three friends from his hometown of Kerrville, Texas.
Manziel stressed last Tuesday to the local media he wanted to be "the guy" for the franchise, to take ownership of the job and take this offseason more seriously than the last. He said Monday that he had no doubts about his plans when he said those things and that he just made a mistake.
He knows his actions aren't reflecting his words when he stays out too late and doesn't get up for team activities. Manziel looked around to the large media scrum and says, "I brought these cameras and all these people to the locker room right now" because of the unfair distractions he brought to the team. He apologized to team veterans, who were vocal after Sunday's 20-10 loss to Baltimore that the organization needs players who are "all in."
"It sucks because of the perception I've based around myself -- I've done this to myself -- that that was allowed to be reported and people are just allowed to nod their head and act like that went on," Manziel said.
Added Manziel: "Either I'm going to learn or I'm going to be finding something else to do."
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So who was responsible for this reporting of the party? If what he says is true and everyone is making judgements based on it (me included), just what was the truth and how did this all get started?
That still does not excuse missing rehab., but to blame him for the problems of the other two seems a bit over the top based on who the fuck knows where this other shit came from.
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If what Manziel says is true then it is sad to see the media vultures invent a story like this. He has enough problems of his own making to deal with without the media making up stories that aren't true.
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If what he says was true ... he was still out partying with his friends from Texas and "overslept" and missed his treatment and didn't support his teammates who were preparing to play.
What's the difference whether he "threw a party" or "went out on the town"?
He's just not committed to the Cleveland Browns.
He should be eating, drinking, sleeping, football. He was still the starting quarterback on the depth chart as of Saturday, he should have been there helping Shaw get ready like Hoyer was.
The fucker needs to just shut up, live in Cleveland the entire offseason and dedicate his life to football. Go out and have drinks one night a week maybe. Make a trip to Texas or Vegas for a fun weekend once or twice. But spend the rest of your time trying to be the best Cleveland Brown you can be. Otherwise he can find "something else to do".
Zombo
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Can't believe a snake charmer.
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I just want the truth when something is reported in the media regarding Manziel or anyone else. It is not fair to anyone to get smeared in the media with facts that are not true. The worst part of this is it makes it appear Manziel had something to do with Gordon's own personal problems. No fan of JM at all but this is not right either.
BALTIMORE, Md. -- Johnny Manziel threw a big party Friday night that resulted in his fine for being late for treatment Saturday morning and Josh Gordon suspended for missing the Saturday walk-through, several sources told cleveland.com.
The source told told cleveland.com that Gordon, who's suspended for today's game against the Ravens, attended Manziel's party along with other members of the team.
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Ok Skip Bayless calls Johnny Manziel an alcoholic liar. This is why he is the biggest fucking idiot at ESPN.
Today,
Then, at minute 2:47. Now he is a year older and he is held to Skip's standard, because....skip wants the attention.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
Johnny might be lying.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/skip-bayless-johnny-manziel-alcoholic-browns?dlvrit=384245
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If what he says was true ... he was still out partying with his friends from Texas and "overslept" and missed his treatment and didn't support his teammates who were preparing to play.
What's the difference whether he "threw a party" or "went out on the town"?
He's just not committed to the Cleveland Browns.
He should be eating, drinking, sleeping, football. He was still the starting quarterback on the depth chart as of Saturday, he should have been there helping Shaw get ready like Hoyer was.
The fucker needs to just shut up, live in Cleveland the entire offseason and dedicate his life to football. Go out and have drinks one night a week maybe. Make a trip to Texas or Vegas for a fun weekend once or twice. But spend the rest of your time trying to be the best Cleveland Brown you can be. Otherwise he can find "something else to do".
Zombo
Zombo said:
If what he says was true ... he was still out partying with his friends from Texas and "overslept" and missed his treatment and didn't support his teammates who were preparing to play.
What's the difference whether he "threw a party" or "went out on the town"?
He's just not committed to the Cleveland Browns.
He should be eating, drinking, sleeping, football. He was still the starting quarterback on the depth chart as of Saturday, he should have been there helping Shaw get ready like Hoyer was.
The fucker needs to just shut up, live in Cleveland the entire offseason and dedicate his life to football. Go out and have drinks one night a week maybe. Make a trip to Texas or Vegas for a fun weekend once or twice. But spend the rest of your time trying to be the best Cleveland Brown you can be. Otherwise he can find "something else to do".
Zombo
I agree. Want to prove you're a Cleveland Brown? Live here all fucking winter. Hit the playbook. Dedicate yourself in the offseason. If we get a new Offensive Coordinator, seek him out immediately and find out what is going on. Like Pettine said, actions speak louder than words.
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But I assume that everyone has read the tweets and the posts and the blurbs and whatever bullshit right? All over Facebook reports of a gigantic party with Johnny and Gordon and Gilbert and all the team bad boys which must have included some of the teams good boys right? And there's not a shred of evidence that that's the type of party that went on. So I mistrust any bullshit tweets from attention whore NFL hangers on.
and this is just one example.
WSS
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I remember Bayless saying that Johnny was a future pro bowler in the making. Fuck that clown.
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I'm not sure if people realize this, but Skip Bayless's job is to be a troll. He says things so people will get a big reaction out of it all the time. He basically just says shit to make people freak out. If people just would have ignored his ass when he first got a job he wouldn't even be relevant on ESPN. The more crazy you put on TV the more people will watch. Not to mention ESPN wants everyone to hear Manziel, Tebow, Lebron, SEC, etc. drama because it gets ratings.
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Bayless used to suck on Johnny Clipboard's sack. I guess it is time for him to change course and get headlines for hating him.
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That is reckless for Bayless to call him an alcoholic. Time for ESPN to get rid of this clown.
Z
Actually I just heard a sound byte and skip didn't really say that, he kind of soft pedddled it when it was in a question form. "so you are saying johnny is an alcoholic and a liar?" And for those with alcohol problems one of the warning signs is has alcohol ever cause problems with your job.Zombo said:
That is reckless for Bayless to call him an alcoholic. Time for ESPN to get rid of this clown.
Z
Just saying. .
WSS
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