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  • It's imperative to resign Gipson

  • It's imperative to resign Gipson

    @walterwhite said:

    It's imperative to resign Gipson

    Will he want to stay? He won't be short of offers.

  • Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston.

    Justin Houston.

    Oh, and, Justin Houston.

    That is all.

  • Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston.

    Justin Houston.

    Oh, and, Justin Houston.

    That is all.

    @gftchris said:

    Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston.

    Justin Houston.

    Oh, and, Justin Houston.

    That is all.

    Someone is going to pay him a ton of money for sure

  • @gftchris said:

    Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston.

    Justin Houston.

    Oh, and, Justin Houston.

    That is all.

    Someone is going to pay him a ton of money for sure

    @londonbrown said:

    Someone is going to pay him a ton of money for sure

    I hope it's us, and if it is, I'll feel a whole lot better about letting Jabaal Sheard go. I don't think we need to make too many big money signings, but if we can get Houston on anything approaching a good deal, I'm all up for it.

    WR and TE are big needs - especially if either of Cameron and Gordon leave - but nothing in FA jumps out at me for those positions.

  • Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston.

    Justin Houston.

    Oh, and, Justin Houston.

    That is all.

    @gftchris said:

    Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston. Justin Houston.

    Justin Houston.

    Oh, and, Justin Houston.

    That is all.

    He is going to get franchise tagged. No way KC let him go. At least not now.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Someone is going to pay him a ton of money for sure

    I hope it's us, and if it is, I'll feel a whole lot better about letting Jabaal Sheard go. I don't think we need to make too many big money signings, but if we can get Houston on anything approaching a good deal, I'm all up for it.

    WR and TE are big needs - especially if either of Cameron and Gordon leave - but nothing in FA jumps out at me for those positions.

    @gftchris said:

    I hope it's us, and if it is, I'll feel a whole lot better about letting Jabaal Sheard go. I don't think we need to make too many big money signings, but if we can get Houston on anything approaching a good deal, I'm all up for it.

    WR and TE are big needs - especially if either of Cameron and Gordon leave - but nothing in FA jumps out at me for those positions.

    Assume we bring Robertson back as he is Exclusive FA?

  • @gftchris said:

    I hope it's us, and if it is, I'll feel a whole lot better about letting Jabaal Sheard go. I don't think we need to make too many big money signings, but if we can get Houston on anything approaching a good deal, I'm all up for it.

    WR and TE are big needs - especially if either of Cameron and Gordon leave - but nothing in FA jumps out at me for those positions.

    Assume we bring Robertson back as he is Exclusive FA?

    @londonbrown said:

    Assume we bring Robertson back as he is Exclusive FA?

    I assume so, yeah, especially how well he stepped up in Dansby's absence. People had him as a lame duck that would roll over and hand the starting job to Kirksey, but that doesn't seem to have happened. For me, ILB isn't as big a need as OLB and DE/NT.

  • Ryan Mallett interests me I must admit.

  • Ryan Mallett interests me I must admit.

    @londonbrown said:

    Ryan Mallett interests me I must admit.

    Why? I really don't see the fascination.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Ryan Mallett interests me I must admit.

    Why? I really don't see the fascination.

    @gftchris said:

    Why? I really don't see the fascination.

    DESPERATION!!!

  • @gftchris said:

    Why? I really don't see the fascination.

    DESPERATION!!!

    @londonbrown said:

    DESPERATION!!!

    Ha, sounds about right. There's a lot of "he learned under Belichick and Brady" love going on around here - Hoyer, Mallet and Garoppolo. I wouldn't panic on that just yet, though. There aren't really any great options out there, and we're not high enough in the draft to get one of those guys. Besides, we do still have a first round pick we've seen only 1.5 games from - I don't think to go all in on anyone just yet. Concentrate on the front seven and skill positions, and the quarterback all of a sudden looks a lot better.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Ryan Mallett interests me I must admit.

    Why? I really don't see the fascination.

    @gftchris said:

    Why? I really don't see the fascination.

    In all seriousness he's tall with big hands and a strong arm. Still haven't seen enough work to know if he's NFL capable.

    If it's Cousins I think I'll cry.

  • @gftchris said:

    Why? I really don't see the fascination.

    In all seriousness he's tall with big hands and a strong arm. Still haven't seen enough work to know if he's NFL capable.

    If it's Cousins I think I'll cry.

    @londonbrown said:

    In all seriousness he's tall with big hands and a strong arm. Still haven't seen enough work to know if he's NFL capable.

    If it's Cousins I think I'll cry.

    So was Brandon Weeden. If those are your only criteria, you can find a bucket load of guys like that. Derek Anderson anybody?

    How is his footwork, his release, his decision making, his reading of defenses and routes, his touch? Shanahan, if he's still in Cleveland, seems to like running a timing based offense, relying on getting the ball out quickly. It seemed quite rare to see our QB actually standing in the pocket and throwing long - most long gains came off of PAP.

    Big arm may be easy to show off at the combine and pro day, but it's just one of many factors that go in to making a QB. I don't know if Mallett has the other attributes - maybe he does, maybe he doesn't - but just having a big arm isn't enough.

  • @londonbrown said:

    In all seriousness he's tall with big hands and a strong arm. Still haven't seen enough work to know if he's NFL capable.

    If it's Cousins I think I'll cry.

    So was Brandon Weeden. If those are your only criteria, you can find a bucket load of guys like that. Derek Anderson anybody?

    How is his footwork, his release, his decision making, his reading of defenses and routes, his touch? Shanahan, if he's still in Cleveland, seems to like running a timing based offense, relying on getting the ball out quickly. It seemed quite rare to see our QB actually standing in the pocket and throwing long - most long gains came off of PAP.

    Big arm may be easy to show off at the combine and pro day, but it's just one of many factors that go in to making a QB. I don't know if Mallett has the other attributes - maybe he does, maybe he doesn't - but just having a big arm isn't enough.

    @gftchris said:

    So was Brandon Weeden. If those are your only criteria, you can find a bucket load of guys like that. Derek Anderson anybody?

    How is his footwork, his release, his decision making, his reading of defenses and routes, his touch? Shanahan, if he's still in Cleveland, seems to like running a timing based offense, relying on getting the ball out quickly. It seemed quite rare to see our QB actually standing in the pocket and throwing long - most long gains came off of PAP.

    Big arm may be easy to show off at the combine and pro day, but it's just one of many factors that go in to making a QB. I don't know if Mallett has the other attributes - maybe he does, maybe he doesn't - but just having a big arm isn't enough.

    Thing is we don't know do we? He's not been seen on the field enough.

  • @gftchris said:

    So was Brandon Weeden. If those are your only criteria, you can find a bucket load of guys like that. Derek Anderson anybody?

    How is his footwork, his release, his decision making, his reading of defenses and routes, his touch? Shanahan, if he's still in Cleveland, seems to like running a timing based offense, relying on getting the ball out quickly. It seemed quite rare to see our QB actually standing in the pocket and throwing long - most long gains came off of PAP.

    Big arm may be easy to show off at the combine and pro day, but it's just one of many factors that go in to making a QB. I don't know if Mallett has the other attributes - maybe he does, maybe he doesn't - but just having a big arm isn't enough.

    Thing is we don't know do we? He's not been seen on the field enough.

    @londonbrown said:

    Thing is we don't know do we? He's not been seen on the field enough.

    No, we don't know. Equally, I have never played an NFL game, so we don't know these things about me either. I need a little more than the mystery of the unknown.

  • Hey, Derek has looked awesome this year.

  • Spotrac is a great site... here's my take on our FAs...

    http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/cleveland-browns/

    Player Pos Status From To Age Exp 2014 Cap Hit

    High - Sign at essentially all cost; consider Franchise tag

    Tashaun Gipson S RFA CLE TBD 24 2 $570,500

    Med - Make competitive offer with intent to retain

    Miles Austin WR UFA CLE TBD 30 8 $2,000,000

    Jabaal Sheard OLB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,619,625

    Buster Skrine CB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,481,500

    Ishmaa'ily Kitchen DT RFA CLE TBD 26 2 $570,000

    Craig Robertson ILB ERFA CLE TBD 26 2 $570,000

    Jim Leonhard S UFA CLE TBD 32 9 $570,000

    Shaun Draughn RB UFA CLE TBD 27 2 $134,117

    Scott Solomon DE UFA CLE TBD 26 2 $67,05

    Low - Make reasonable offer with degree of willingness to part ways

    Jordan Cameron TE UFA CLE TBD 26 3 $1,550,350

    Brian Hoyer QB UFA CLE TBD 29 4 $1,250,000

    Ahtyba Rubin DT UFA CLE TBD 28 6 $8,175,000

    Johnson Bademosi S RFA CLE TBD 24 2 $570,834

    Spencer Lanning P ERFA CLE TBD 26 1 $495,000

    Marlon Moore WR UFA CLE TBD 27 4 $435,882

    Ryan Seymour G ERFA CLE TBD 24 1 $320,294

    No - Take it or leave it, low ball

    Sione Fua DT UFA CLE TBD 26 3 $417,353

    Andre Smith TE RFA CLE TBD 26 2 $333,0008

    Tyler Thigpen QB UFA CLE TBD 30 7 $33,529

    Jermaine Saffold WR RFA CLE TBD 25 $0

    Zac Diles ILB UFA CLE TBD 29 7 $0

    Solomon Elimimian LB ERFA CLE TBD 28 1 $0

    Matt Cleveland G RFA CLE TBD 25 $0

    Emanuel Davis CB RFA CLE TBD 26 $0

    Jake Anderson G RFA CLE TBD 25 $0

  • It's imperative to resign Gipson

    @walterwhite said:

    It's imperative to resign Gipson

    @londonbrown said:

    Will he want to stay? He won't be short of offers.

    Gipson is a restricted free agent, which will allow us to match any offers.....so, the Browns can have him if they want him....

    @gftchris said:

    Justin Houston.

    .

    I dont think he's getting away....they'll tag him for sure...

    I will say Ive backed off a touch on signing Skrine....especially if we have to pay him top dollar. Would hate to do a large contract with him, then have Desir or Gilbert take over the starters role.....suddenly, we could have a multimillion dollar nickle back.....and I do believe we have so much quality in the DB's that it's likey one of them will emerge as a TOP player....Desir/Gilbert/Williams...