Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I have always liked Joe Theisman from his days at Notre Dame and his NFL career. I respect what Theisman says and this was his assessment last year on Manziel and time has born him out to be spot on with his analysis:
9/6/13
"Johnny Manziel shows a great amount of immaturity. He shows a great amount of classlessness. He doesn’t understand what it’s like to be a leader. He doesn’t understand what it’s like to have the respect of the people in your business and with you. And for him to come out and say I’m only gonna stay one more year at Texas A&M, he would have trouble playing professional football with men.
His game is one of freelance football. It works very well in the Canadian league because I played up there. But in the National Football League, you can’t run around and think that you’re going to escape and outrun defensive ends and linebackers at this level. He’s not very disciplined in what he does. He’s not very mature in the way that he conducts his life and I think he should stay in college and grow up. And then if he thinks he can come and play with men, let him come.
But what really bothered me – there have been a number of things that bothered me about Johnny – but what really bothered me was when you walk by your head coach and ignore him, who the heck does he think he is? Yes, he won the Heisman Trophy; somehow he ended up winning the Heisman Trophy. Different guys kept falling off the map and all of a sudden he does his circus act against Alabama and everybody goes ‘Woo, OK fine, he’s the Heisman Trophy winner.’ Congratulations to him. I think that’s a great honor and a great award. But it also carries with it a degree with which you have to be respected and you have to conduct yourself in a respectful manner.
And what I saw him do in that game, in the conversation with the players, what I saw him do walking past his head coach, you’re the Heisman Trophy winner, you’ve been suspended by the NCAA, which by the way is the biggest joke in the world, for one half of a football game.
If you didn’t do something wrong, then don’t suspend him. There’s no such thing as he violated the spirit. What’s the spirit of what they’re talking about? They have no clue. So what happens is in this situation is you have a chance to go out on the football field, you’ve done your penance, you’ve received whatever fine or whatever penalty the NCAA wanted to dole out to you, now you get a chance to go out and lead your football team. You go out and get to show everybody that the things that happened, the things that were said about you, really aren’t you.
And then what he does is he just goes out and he just confirms that he’s not a very mature young man. And that he’s not a very goof leader of a football team. There are a lot of guys that have a lot of talent that play at our level. There are a lot of guys that have a lot of talent that play at the college level – Teddy Twatwater at Louisville, the quarterback at Clemson, the quarterback at Florida State – I’d take any of those guys over Johnny Manziel in a heartbeat, in a heartbeat."
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In case this hasn't been mentioned before...
Broadway Floppie Johnny was hitting the sauce til the early morning hours
that Friday night before he had treatment for his hammy.
I never would have drafted him, but he was an exciting player in college.
Too bad. He probably won't hit rehab til he gets gone from his first,
or maybe even his second, team.
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One last bit from the Fox article...
Manziel realizes he is the one who got himself into his situation because of his approach the last two years and admitted lack of attention to detail in practice when he was a backup.
Two years??? When did Manziel's last year at A&M become part of the convo???
Ag? Was there an A&M issue?
That business of taking money for autographs and getting suspended maybe?
That business of taking money for autographs and getting suspended maybe?
Probably, but is 1/2 a game suspension big enough to tack a full year onto his latest mea culpa???
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So... Johnny's in Miami?
Rehab that hamstring, no doubt.
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If what he says is true and there was no party what then is the irresponsible behavior in this case? The fact that he was late for rehab? I can accept that complaint but that shit happens. My problem is the paparazzi style reporting.
I'm not saying it's true or it isn't true but just give me a little evidence and ask yourself if it was another player would you care? Because I will bet you dollars to dog turds that there are plenty of Cleveland Browns out at the nightclubs shit hammered on a regular basis.
WSS
1. They show up for work on time the next day or they get disciplined just like Manziel.
2. He was the starting QB. He should be plugged into the offense and at the meetings and helping shaw and the offense get prepared for a divison football game with a chance to knock the Ravens out of the playoffs and get the ship to .500 for the first time in forever.
I got news for you Steve, no one likes Hoyer because he's from Cleveland. They like him because he was standing next to Shaw on Sunday helping him through the game. They like him because even though he was injured and his tiny contract was expiring, he was doing everything he could to help the Cleveland Browns. They like him because he spent the entire off-season in Cleveland rehabbing from major surgery and learning the offense well enough that we could win football games with his average-talent ass in there.
I don't care that Manziel is Rich, Texan, or a Celebrity. I care that he is not dedicating himself to the Cleveland Browns.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I don't care that Manziel is Rich, Texan, or a Celebrity. I care that he is not dedicating himself to the Cleveland Browns.
Zombo
And this man nails it.
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One last bit from the Fox article...
Manziel realizes he is the one who got himself into his situation because of his approach the last two years and admitted lack of attention to detail in practice when he was a backup.
Two years??? When did Manziel's last year at A&M become part of the convo???
Ag? Was there an A&M issue?
One last bit from the Fox article...
Manziel realizes he is the one who got himself into his situation because of his approach the last two years and admitted lack of attention to detail in practice when he was a backup.
Two years??? When did Manziel's last year at A&M become part of the convo???
Ag? Was there an A&M issue?
Why you sound surprise? It's been reported the dude's been a slacker even in A&M. There's a reason why he plays without a playbook.
Again, many of these points were brought up and dissected before the draft. A lot of you folks fail to read them.
Hate to say it...but "I TOLD YOU SO." People were upset at me for being so critical of him. Well, now you know.
And who's the QB i wanted. The Bridgewater, the dude that's shown the best progress game after game. The dude that knows the entire playbook since training camp. The dude that's all about football. This same dude that is out of the limelight.
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Even if what Manziel says is true with his version of events it still does not exonerate him from his own irresponsible behavior.
If what he says is true and there was no party what then is the irresponsible behavior in this case? The fact that he was late for rehab? I can accept that complaint but that shit happens. My problem is the paparazzi style reporting.
I'm not saying it's true or it isn't true but just give me a little evidence and ask yourself if it was another player would you care? Because I will bet you dollars to dog turds that there are plenty of Cleveland Browns out at the nightclubs shit hammered on a regular basis.
WSS
If what he says is true and there was no party what then is the irresponsible behavior in this case? The fact that he was late for rehab? I can accept that complaint but that shit happens. My problem is the paparazzi style reporting.
I'm not saying it's true or it isn't true but just give me a little evidence and ask yourself if it was another player would you care? Because I will bet you dollars to dog turds that there are plenty of Cleveland Browns out at the nightclubs shit hammered on a regular basis.
WSS
Steve, if you read Manziel's comments- he realizes he created the media monster- was sucking up every minute of it- or forget the selfie with Bee-ber and all the other stuff? He found out once you turn on the media machine, it's mighty hard to turn it off. He has TMZ on him like stink on shit.
I've never denied that. It does not excuse what you did however. Another attorney smoke screen for your irresponsible post.
OK AG- I agree the Patriots scouting report might be a fabrication- but there's at least an ounce of truth in it? Maybe?
Of course he's lying. He's a perpetual liar. Remember the Manning camp incident where he blamed mccarron for his problems.
Not only was it a lie it was a terrible lie to blame your responsibility on someone else.
Thanks for reminding me about yet another Red Flag pre draft. Sure seems like Johnny had no interest in taking notes from one of the best. I wasn't there- but gave all the appearances he hit the party circuit
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In regards to the Patriots scouting report true or not it was released before the football season even started and it reads more like a prophecy now. What isn't true in it? Everything in it has come true or is true. People can make as many excuses for Johnny as they want, or try to justify it by saying he's young, or say that they are just rumors..... Look at his history
His Dad last year said Johhny has anger and drinking issues, Skip Bayless calls him an alcoholic. He apologizes last week for not taking football seriously and promises to commit 100% and not even 7 days later has to be dragged out of bed to attend practice. Let that sink in!
Much like last year with AJ McCarron when he again overslept. The multiple NCAA investigations, arrests, the bathroom coke photo, living in night clubs and going to Vegas.... Being on the sideline on his phone during the game 2 weeks ago.... The finger incident, and many I have missed. This kid is a joke, and will never be a leader in the NFL... He will never be respected by his peers. He will never be someone that puts in the work the greats do to be great..... Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning etc (Winners) they all put in endless time studying the game, going over tape, practicing, prepping their bodies...Do you think Manziel is going to be practicing all off-season, studying tape, living a healthy lifestyle. No, he will most likely not be putting in the time because he never has in his life and that's just who he is. He isn't just all of a sudden going to be someone that becomes a leader, who studies all hours of the day and preps... Separation is in the preparation and he doesn't do the prep. A leopard doesn't change its spots.
When that sack fumble for a touchdown was taken back I was embarrassed by him. He just laid there, didn't even play through the whistle. He gave up on that play and didn't even look for the ball. He has realized he is too small, and too slow and his style of play isn't going to be one that works in the NFL.
It seems there wasn't a week that went by that he wasn't having to apologize for something, or think more carefully about his actions. The Browns would be best off cutting their losses now before dragging that waste of a roster spot into next season and spreading cancer
How about this... Can anyone show all the positive traits of a successful QB he shows week in and week out in regards to preparation. Character... Choices... Performance... Practice... Or playing? I guess, what does he show every week that says this is the guy... Or he has a shot at being successful?
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Joe Thomas says JFF has what it takes to be the QB:
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Joe Thomas says JFF has what it takes to be the QB:
Joe Thomas says JFF has what it takes to be the QB:
what is he going to say? "Nope, no way this loser has what it takes"
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Think all the signs are that JFF will be back next year. On a short leash to be sure.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Manziel media machine kicks into high gear with excuses.
http://bleacherreport.com/uninterrupted
Sorry if this has been linked, but who the fuck after a shit bag season would come out with a promotional video?..? This guy is delusional..
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^ Delusional or a con. I'm leaning toward the latter.
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Manziel media machine kicks into high gear with excuses.
http://bleacherreport.com/uninterrupted
Sorry if this has been linked, but who the fuck after a shit bag season would come out with a promotional video?..? This guy is delusional..
Manziel media machine kicks into high gear with excuses.
http://bleacherreport.com/uninterrupted
Sorry if this has been linked, but who the fuck after a shit bag season would come out with a promotional video?..? This guy is delusional..
He's all talk (rather than talent, work, execution), he's said the same things for weeks.
Get him off the team.
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Manziel media machine kicks into high gear with excuses.
http://bleacherreport.com/uninterrupted
Sorry if this has been linked, but who the fuck after a shit bag season would come out with a promotional video?..? This guy is delusional..
but who the fuck after a shit bag season would come out with a promotional video?..? This guy is delusional..
You know, I do appreciate what he's "trying" to do here, which proves he is delusional... it wreaks of "me" and just more bs talk....
The only reason he'd make this video is because he believes it shows that he means business.....sadly, he doesn't understand that the video is a waste of time and his ONLY option to make things right is to complete the following 3 steps:
1) stay out of the news
2) learn his job
3) play well and win
thats it.
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He'll be back.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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