WINSLOW TRADED!!
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I am now starting to think that MANKOK has really jumped the gun on this deal, surely there is plenty of teams in the NFL who would have offered a better deal than that. was today the first day teams could do trades?
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I am now starting to think that MANKOK has really jumped the gun on this deal, surely there is plenty of teams in the NFL who would have offered a better deal than that. was today the first day teams could do trades?
I am now starting to think that MANKOK has really jumped the gun on this deal, surely there is plenty of teams in the NFL who would have offered a better deal than that. was today the first day teams could do trades?
Dude... just read for a while.
GM's don't just jump the gun on deals like that. I'm sure there was def more than Tampa involved in this.
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I am now starting to think that MANKOK has really jumped the gun on this deal, surely there is plenty of teams in the NFL who would have offered a better deal than that. was today the first day teams could do trades?
Dude... just read for a while.
GM's don't just jump the gun on deals like that. I'm sure there was def more than Tampa involved in this.
AdaM said:
Dude... just read for a while.GM's don't just jump the gun on deals like that. I'm sure there was def more than Tampa involved in this.
umm I was here since the last board wipe for a long time, just didn't bother to re-register because I didnt post much anyway
GMs do jump the gun, bad ones do. was today the first day teams could do deals or not? if it is, then this was definitely doing it too fast.
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Wow some pretty shocking stuff.
Not sure how to feel about this one yet. I do think Winslow was a strong part of our offense but I have always felt he wouldn't last much longer with his injury history. Hopefully we can get some good value out of the picks we obtained for him. This is after all a very talented draft. Guess I'll have to go find a new Browns jersey (might just wanna wait till start of the season seeing as our team could have a completely different look in a couple of months)
Get a Joe Thomas jersey...he ain't going nowhere!!!
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I am on the fence...depends what K2 does over the next two years. On the face I'd have liked a #2 this year and #3 next...I think that would have been a fair deal.
I'm kind of a little heated right now so I'm talking without thinking about it.
I like the #2nd round pick but I wish they would have pushed for 2 picks THIS draft instead of one this year than one next year.
I'm kind of a little heated right now so I'm talking without thinking about it.
I like the #2nd round pick but I wish they would have pushed for 2 picks THIS draft instead of one this year than one next year.
I don't mind next year...I really mind a 5th rounder...think we could have gotten a third next year!
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AdaM said:
Dude... just read for a while.GM's don't just jump the gun on deals like that. I'm sure there was def more than Tampa involved in this.
umm I was here since the last board wipe for a long time, just didn't bother to re-register because I didnt post much anyway
GMs do jump the gun, bad ones do. was today the first day teams could do deals or not? if it is, then this was definitely doing it too fast.
umm I was here since the last board wipe for a long time, just didn't bother to re-register because I didnt post much anyway
GMs do jump the gun, bad ones do. was today the first day teams could do deals or not? if it is, then this was definitely doing it too fast.
It wasn't the first day teams could talk about them. Just execute them. Teams also had to have the cap space, which TB just cleared a ton of.
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AdaM said:
Dude... just read for a while.GM's don't just jump the gun on deals like that. I'm sure there was def more than Tampa involved in this.
umm I was here since the last board wipe for a long time, just didn't bother to re-register because I didnt post much anyway
GMs do jump the gun, bad ones do. was today the first day teams could do deals or not? if it is, then this was definitely doing it too fast.
umm I was here since the last board wipe for a long time, just didn't bother to re-register because I didnt post much anyway
GMs do jump the gun, bad ones do. was today the first day teams could do deals or not? if it is, then this was definitely doing it too fast.
yep, first day. feb 27: free agency begins, trading period begins.
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lol well u never know with ManKok!
I actually just read on another forum that supposedly it was for a 2nd + 3rd, but there was no confirmed evidence of this. But if it is true, then man we got a pretty good deal
If we got a 2nd this year and a third next...I'd unequivocally say that is a good and fair deal on both sides!
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WE CANT LET ROGERS GO! Mangina has to quit being a pussy and go talk to the big beast. Keep him happy please.
As for as a 2nd rounder for KW that is probably about right...although Im sorry to see him go, I think they want our TE's to put more of an emphasis on blocking. We have Bray and DS to stretch the field. Maybe Cieslak is a darkhouse gamer? Can he block?
We just need to hit on those picks now...
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Schefter said Unconfirmed...2nd this year 5th next year...
what would a 5th rounder next year accomplish? we could have at least gotten a 2nd this year AND next year if we were going to split the picks up. we might as well have traded him for a 2nd rounder this year, a bag of balls and a new pair of cleats. however i do have to say that we got good value for him with the second round pick
what would a 5th rounder next year accomplish? we could have at least gotten a 2nd this year AND next year if we were going to split the picks up. we might as well have traded him for a 2nd rounder this year, a bag of balls and a new pair of cleats. however i do have to say that we got good value for him with the second round pick
There is a good chance that if the deal is structured this way, that next years 5th is conditional based on PT, or some other measurable. IE, the trade could end up being a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year.
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After doing some research I found Shockey was traded for the same exact deal. A 2nd rounder in 08 and a 5th rounder in 09. That deal most have been the barometer for this one and the best they could get. Still what Winslow brings you for that price is well worth its weight in gold.
My only hope now and the only thing that may heal the damage is Mathews falls to the second rd and Greene is there for the taking at #50. If we can obtain those two this pill will be much easier to swallow.
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Actually just saw the clip on espn and hasselback just said that it would be great if they got a 2nd and 3rd. That's probably where the rumor started. But I highly doubt that's what we got
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@raiderman said:
Wow you guys suck! There goes 1 of your 2 best players! Man the Browns are weak! I told you guys Winslow wouldn't be around you pieces of shit! HAHAHAH!THIS FROM A RAIDER FAN....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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what would a 5th rounder next year accomplish? we could have at least gotten a 2nd this year AND next year if we were going to split the picks up. we might as well have traded him for a 2nd rounder this year, a bag of balls and a new pair of cleats. however i do have to say that we got good value for him with the second round pick
There is a good chance that if the deal is structured this way, that next years 5th is conditional based on PT, or some other measurable. IE, the trade could end up being a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year.
There is a good chance that if the deal is structured this way, that next years 5th is conditional based on PT, or some other measurable. IE, the trade could end up being a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year.
That's what I'm thinking (though I think it's more likely that the '10 pick maxes out at a 3rd).
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@shepwrite said:
I have a feeling the Browns are gonna sign Derrick Ward and cut Lewis, go with a Ward and Harrison tandem. Bring in a right side blocker, a TE, and a serious starting wide receiver so we can put Stallworth in the slot. Sounds good to me.Not a bad idea/plan.
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@shepwrite said:
I have a feeling the Browns are gonna sign Derrick Ward and cut Lewis, go with a Ward and Harrison tandem. Bring in a right side blocker, a TE, and a serious starting wide receiver so we can put Stallworth in the slot. Sounds good to me.I'd have no problem with that trade unlike this one. Lewis needs to go he's washed up. The guy was in the top 5 in carries in the NFL last year yet had one of the worst yards per carry AVG in the NFL. He's a bum unlike Winslow..
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@shepwrite said:
I have a feeling the Browns are gonna sign Derrick Ward and cut Lewis, go with a Ward and Harrison tandem. Bring in a right side blocker, a TE, and a serious starting wide receiver so we can put Stallworth in the slot. Sounds good to me.So we're exactly where we were yesterday, except we're down one Pro Bowler. Down 2 if Rogers gets his way. Down 2.01 if we trade Derek.
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@shepwrite said:
I have a feeling the Browns are gonna sign Derrick Ward and cut Lewis, go with a Ward and Harrison tandem. Bring in a right side blocker, a TE, and a serious starting wide receiver so we can put Stallworth in the slot. Sounds good to me.Don't tease me shep, its too long before the season to be doing that to a man...
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why hasn't raiderman been banned yet? the admin needs to do something
as for lewis, given they just traded huge talent in winslow, there is no way he stays, maybe as a vet backup at most. although he's probably getting paid too much for that role.
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@shepwrite said:
I have a feeling the Browns are gonna sign Derrick Ward and cut Lewis, go with a Ward and Harrison tandem. Bring in a right side blocker, a TE, and a serious starting wide receiver so we can put Stallworth in the slot. Sounds good to me.That aint fair.... because just by saying it you know its not gonna happen now.
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