Joe Thomas calls teammates "middle school kids"
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I think it started in Coach Sam's day but the Browns had a program called Inner Circle. It was for players with growing pains and involved vets mentoring as well as counselling players that had off field issues....drinking, drugs, partying too much and general assholiness. Maybe starting something similar would be a good idea?
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As far as Pettine commenting on JF today. I think he took the bullet for the higher ups there. He started the kid because he had to and then took the heat for it. I like the guy and think he will be around for quite some time
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yeah fuck all this talk about pettine, I want him as HC for a very long time. If only for the fact that he looks sweet on our sidelines. Like a Rob Ryan kind of presence just not as demonstrative obviously. Nor as fat.
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Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives
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Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives
Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives
Really? really? are we really blaming lost games on Joe? how about umm..lets see umm, dropped balls, bad reads, bad throws, no run game after Mack went down (mostly), Gilbert's more wiffs than tips when he was on the field, Gibson being lost (lead the league in picks up to that point), K'waun Williams going down (playing lights out), starting NT's out for a big chunk of the season, four starting Centers, Miles getting hurt, Cameron hurt off and on all year, damn I think you just might be right on this one.
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Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives
Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives
so true, we would have had homefield the whole playoffs without those false starts. Fuck Joe Thomas.
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Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives
Thank god nobody listens to a roosters dick. I will admit being surprised that bullshit comes out of a rooster dick. Wrong animal and wrong organ, wierd.....Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives
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The finger pointing begins....way to lead a team Pettine!!! This would never happen in a Belicheat team. Haslem can stfu also and just sign paychecks with stolen rebate money. Pettine lost the team the last month, pressured by the media circus that is the new Cleveland Browns.
Pettine certainly appears as if he doesn't have a clue
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Joe doesn't say much...so that carries some weight...
So thats Joe, Dansby and Whitner speaking out.....a lot of years of experience talking there
Joe doesn't say much...so that carries some weight...
Yup... and being reluctant when he does adds even more.
agree. i don't get the people that think pettine is some slouch that doesn't care.
they must think pettine alone has the type of authority to cut someone, which we all know isn't true. all he could do was suspend people and he did that.
enough with the pettine being soft on guys.
Yup... best he can do solo is deactivate, which he did repeatedly. If anything, the accountability Pet has imposed, often in concert with Farmer, has been a rude awakening for players... mostly rookies, but also a couple vets, e.g., Tate and JG.
Beyond that it has emboldened the team's vets to step up and say what they are saying. If they were not green-lighted by Pet to open up, to get vocal before they did so, you can damn sure bet that they got the message when Pet endorsed the call-outs in his presser after they started.
I actually thought he was going to break out crying at the press conference yesterday.
Is there a limbo contest going on?
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You guys can babble all you want. I watched every single game, and he caused a lot of drives to be ruined. I never put sole blame on JUST HIM. Obvious you idiots get bent out of shape too easily. I just see no reason for Joe to call anyone else out when he played like complete garbage this season.
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You guys can babble all you want. I watched every single game, and he caused a lot of drives to be ruined. I never put sole blame on JUST HIM. Obvious you idiots get bent out of shape too easily. I just see no reason for Joe to call anyone else out when he played like complete garbage this season.
he caused a lot of drives to be ruined. I never put sole blame on JUST HIM. ............................. I just see no reason for Joe to call anyone else out when he played like complete garbage this season.
Caused a lot of drives to be ruined, but you dont blame him??.......uh, I think you just did, actually......
And I think he called the players out on their professionalism and work ethic, which(as a veteran) he has every right to do and has nothing to do with whether he got a penalty or not.
And to say he played like "complete garbage" because he got a few penalties just shows you're just an idiot.
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Oh well, Joe's always good for a sound bite.
No matter whose ox you wish to gore.
WSS
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Oh well, Joe's always good for a sound bite.
No matter whose ox you wish to gore.
WSS
Oh well, Joe's always good for a sound bite.
And, usually, a fairly eloquent sound bite at that......
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he caused a lot of drives to be ruined. I never put sole blame on JUST HIM. ............................. I just see no reason for Joe to call anyone else out when he played like complete garbage this season.
Caused a lot of drives to be ruined, but you dont blame him??.......uh, I think you just did, actually......
And I think he called the players out on their professionalism and work ethic, which(as a veteran) he has every right to do and has nothing to do with whether he got a penalty or not.
And to say he played like "complete garbage" because he got a few penalties just shows you're just an idiot.
Joe's a terrible soundbite guy. Look how they had to manufacture this headline...
And to say he played like "complete garbage" because he got a few penalties just shows you're just an idiot.
Actually resorting to calling "idiot" shows who is an idiot... I guess maybe now I am one as well.
Joe's game declined in the last 1/4 of the season... no doubt about it. But he was near flawless 2014's first half and nearly near flawless its third quarter.
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I will have to do more research than I care to but I'd be willing to bet that references to wanting to suck the dick of a player you support outweighs the use of the word idiot.
(in general)
WSS
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You guys can babble all you want. I watched every single game, and he caused a lot of drives to be ruined. I never put sole blame on JUST HIM. Obvious you idiots get bent out of shape too easily. I just see no reason for Joe to call anyone else out when he played like complete garbage this season.
Obvious you idiots get bent out of shape too easily.
And to say he played like "complete garbage" because he got a few penalties just shows you're just an idiot.
Actually resorting to calling "idiot" shows who is an idiot... I guess maybe now I am one as well.
This whole chain is idiotic...
Besides, I never resort to name calling.....I only reciprocate......
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Joe's a terrible soundbite guy. Look how they had to manufacture this headline...
And to say he played like "complete garbage" because he got a few penalties just shows you're just an idiot.
Actually resorting to calling "idiot" shows who is an idiot... I guess maybe now I am one as well.
Joe's game declined in the last 1/4 of the season... no doubt about it. But he was near flawless 2014's first half and nearly near flawless its third quarter.
Joe's a terrible soundbite guy. Look how they had to manufacture this headline...
Actually resorting to calling "idiot" shows who is an idiot... I guess maybe now I am one as well.
Joe's game declined in the last 1/4 of the season... no doubt about it. But he was near flawless 2014's first half and nearly near flawless its third quarter.
I am guessing that there are a lot of teams out there who would be glad to take Joe off our hands. Frankly if we don't get our shit together as a team I hope he does get to go elsewhere. The guy has worked his ass off and deserves a chance at a ring.
That is not a shot at you Tour , in general your assessments of O line play are spot on. I just wonder how much the loss of Mack impacted the play of Joe and the line in general. I think it was a large factor.
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Joe's a terrible soundbite guy. Look how they had to manufacture this headline...
Actually resorting to calling "idiot" shows who is an idiot... I guess maybe now I am one as well.
Joe's game declined in the last 1/4 of the season... no doubt about it. But he was near flawless 2014's first half and nearly near flawless its third quarter.
I am guessing that there are a lot of teams out there who would be glad to take Joe off our hands. Frankly if we don't get our shit together as a team I hope he does get to go elsewhere. The guy has worked his ass off and deserves a chance at a ring.
That is not a shot at you Tour , in general your assessments of O line play are spot on. I just wonder how much the loss of Mack impacted the play of Joe and the line in general. I think it was a large factor.
I am guessing that there are a lot of teams out there who would be glad to take Joe off our hands. Frankly if we don't get our shit together as a team I hope he does get to go elsewhere. The guy has worked his ass off and deserves a chance at a ring.
That is not a shot at you Tour , in general your assessments of O line play are spot on. I just wonder how much the loss of Mack impacted the play of Joe and the line in general. I think it was a large factor.
Shot? If anything there is a shot... I'll take a dozen.
As for Mack going down...
Hard to finger an impact on Joe other than the mental drain of seeing run after run fail due to missed blocks by our Center.
Ditto-ish for Mitchell, although I think he got somewhat less help from Greco than he otherwise might have in pass protection.
Impacts on Bito and Greco were easiest to see. The smooth ZBS hand-offs they took for granted from Mack were seldom replicated by Mack's replacements.
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Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives
Really? really? are we really blaming lost games on Joe? how about umm..lets see umm, dropped balls, bad reads, bad throws, no run game after Mack went down (mostly), Gilbert's more wiffs than tips when he was on the field, Gibson being lost (lead the league in picks up to that point), K'waun Williams going down (playing lights out), starting NT's out for a big chunk of the season, four starting Centers, Miles getting hurt, Cameron hurt off and on all year, damn I think you just might be right on this one.
Really? really? are we really blaming lost games on Joe? how about umm..lets see umm, dropped balls, bad reads, bad throws, no run game after Mack went down (mostly), Gilbert's more wiffs than tips when he was on the field, Gibson being lost (lead the league in picks up to that point), K'waun Williams going down (playing lights out), starting NT's out for a big chunk of the season, four starting Centers, Miles getting hurt, Cameron hurt off and on all year, damn I think you just might be right on this one.
sounds like a typical season for the browns...so whats new....nada....they need to think about replacing austin ...he had a couple good yrs at dallas, but the guy cannot stay on the field..and cameron is probably 1 more concussion away from retirement...i think taylor is also an injury liability...we ain't in as good of shape as it once appeared...oh yeah forgot about we have no receivers except for a couple smurfs who try hard...gordon will probably be gone..bust....gilbert...bust...lil chonnie..bust...do we even have a field goal kicker..we have no kickoff or punt return person...oh, and guess what, WE HAVE NO QB....the cleveland browns, still rebuilding after 16 yrs of bullshit..
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I am guessing that there are a lot of teams out there who would be glad to take Joe off our hands. Frankly if we don't get our shit together as a team I hope he does get to go elsewhere. The guy has worked his ass off and deserves a chance at a ring.
That is not a shot at you Tour , in general your assessments of O line play are spot on. I just wonder how much the loss of Mack impacted the play of Joe and the line in general. I think it was a large factor.
Shot? If anything there is a shot... I'll take a dozen.
As for Mack going down...
Hard to finger an impact on Joe other than the mental drain of seeing run after run fail due to missed blocks by our Center.
Ditto-ish for Mitchell, although I think he got somewhat less help from Greco than he otherwise might have in pass protection.
Impacts on Bito and Greco were easiest to see. The smooth ZBS hand-offs they took for granted from Mack were seldom replicated by Mack's replacements.
Shot? If anything there is a shot... I'll take a dozen.
As for Mack going down...
Hard to finger an impact on Joe other than the mental drain of seeing run after run fail due to missed blocks by our Center.
Ditto-ish for Mitchell, although I think he got somewhat less help from Greco than he otherwise might have in pass protection.
Impacts on Bito and Greco were easiest to see. The smooth ZBS hand-offs they took for granted from Mack were seldom replicated by Mack's replacements.
you could see the running game start to go downhill when we lost to jax...think that was the first game without mack...from there it did not get much better...that is why you cannot blame hoyer for all the issues the offense had...he was best when the running game worked...after that the defenses did not honor our run game and just came after him and with the ol in disarray, he made mistakes...so would many other qb's in his situation...
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