New OC again!
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Trestman or Weiss would make me feel a bit better. Neither would blow up the run game or ZBS. Although the passing game would look a bit different.
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Around and around we go. This team is a disaster. I can't figure out why anyone would want to coach here, yet alone play here. Total Dysfunction is an understatement. Laughing stock of the NFL
And yet you're still here asshat. Go jump on the bandwagon of another team. Maybe theres some room on the Panthers bandwagon for you.
It's not that big of deal. We need a QB before we worry about who the offensive coordinator is.
And yet you're still here asshat. Go jump on the bandwagon of another team. Maybe theres some room on the Panthers bandwagon for you.
It's not that big of deal. We need a QB before we worry about who the offensive coordinator is.
Why am I an asshat? Take a step back and notice this is a recurring theme here.... but yet, people like yourself accept it as normal? What good do you think will come of the revolving door that we have? Am I wrong for being totally sick and disgusted of this team? If I speak my mind and voice my concern, I am told to jump to another team. Seriously? This team drafts the crappiest players every year, from the most opportune position. You honestly can say you have faith in what this team does? It's a disgrace man... YEAR after YEAR this team fails to make any kind of positive advancement. This team will only improve by drafting football players. Unfortunately, they take stabs in the dark instead of proven talent, and the gamble kicks them in the ass every single time. I'm glad you are satisfied and have your rose colored glasses on. The grass isn't greener in cleveland, it's been dormant for the last 7 years.
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And yet you're still here asshat. Go jump on the bandwagon of another team. Maybe theres some room on the Panthers bandwagon for you.
It's not that big of deal. We need a QB before we worry about who the offensive coordinator is.
Why am I an asshat? Take a step back and notice this is a recurring theme here.... but yet, people like yourself accept it as normal? What good do you think will come of the revolving door that we have? Am I wrong for being totally sick and disgusted of this team? If I speak my mind and voice my concern, I am told to jump to another team. Seriously? This team drafts the crappiest players every year, from the most opportune position. You honestly can say you have faith in what this team does? It's a disgrace man... YEAR after YEAR this team fails to make any kind of positive advancement. This team will only improve by drafting football players. Unfortunately, they take stabs in the dark instead of proven talent, and the gamble kicks them in the ass every single time. I'm glad you are satisfied and have your rose colored glasses on. The grass isn't greener in cleveland, it's been dormant for the last 7 years.
Why am I an asshat? Take a step back and notice this is a recurring theme here.... but yet, people like yourself accept it as normal? What good do you think will come of the revolving door that we have? Am I wrong for being totally sick and disgusted of this team? If I speak my mind and voice my concern, I am told to jump to another team. Seriously? This team drafts the crappiest players every year, from the most opportune position. You honestly can say you have faith in what this team does? It's a disgrace man... YEAR after YEAR this team fails to make any kind of positive advancement. This team will only improve by drafting football players. Unfortunately, they take stabs in the dark instead of proven talent, and the gamble kicks them in the ass every single time. I'm glad you are satisfied and have your rose colored glasses on. The grass isn't greener in cleveland, it's been dormant for the last 7 years.
Well, 7-9 is better than 4-12. And every pick the Browns made after the first round last year looks solid, as do the UDFA's they signed. You can't expect a team that's been losing for 15 years to go from 4-12 to 12-4 in one year. The Browns have serious team-culture issues that need to be changed and Pettine is the guy to do it. It's going to take a few years, but at least we are finally moving in the right direction.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. .....Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Your boy really really added to the mess too....
His greatest supporters are gone because he let them AND his team down.....
His greatest supporters are gone because he let them AND his team down.....
Yes, he did. Frittered it away with his insistence that he needed a "night" life more than a "day" job.
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Apparently Trestman is "interested in talking" to Browns re: OC position, according to some reports.
Trestman runs WCO so perhaps it would provide some continuity for our offense.
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Around and around we go. This team is a disaster. I can't figure out why anyone would want to coach here, yet alone play here. Total Dysfunction is an understatement. Laughing stock of the NFL
Around and around we go. This team is a disaster. I can't figure out why anyone would want to coach here, yet alone play here. Total Dysfunction is an understatement. Laughing stock of the NFL
i'd hate to hear the way you talk about someone you like.
fucking schleprock.
dallas is looking for more bandwagon fans and hey, they're in the playoffs.
hurry, run!
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I ain't even mad.
Shanahan will go back to OC for daddy somewhere, and we'll upgrade to someone better.
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Hey Jon Gruden has consistently said he'd love a chance to coach Manziel. Here's our chance to bring him back in the league as an OC.
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Why am I an asshat? Take a step back and notice this is a recurring theme here.... but yet, people like yourself accept it as normal? What good do you think will come of the revolving door that we have? Am I wrong for being totally sick and disgusted of this team? If I speak my mind and voice my concern, I am told to jump to another team. Seriously? This team drafts the crappiest players every year, from the most opportune position. You honestly can say you have faith in what this team does? It's a disgrace man... YEAR after YEAR this team fails to make any kind of positive advancement. This team will only improve by drafting football players. Unfortunately, they take stabs in the dark instead of proven talent, and the gamble kicks them in the ass every single time. I'm glad you are satisfied and have your rose colored glasses on. The grass isn't greener in cleveland, it's been dormant for the last 7 years.
Well, 7-9 is better than 4-12. And every pick the Browns made after the first round last year looks solid, as do the UDFA's they signed. You can't expect a team that's been losing for 15 years to go from 4-12 to 12-4 in one year. The Browns have serious team-culture issues that need to be changed and Pettine is the guy to do it. It's going to take a few years, but at least we are finally moving in the right direction.
Well, 7-9 is better than 4-12. And every pick the Browns made after the first round last year looks solid, as do the UDFA's they signed. You can't expect a team that's been losing for 15 years to go from 4-12 to 12-4 in one year. The Browns have serious team-culture issues that need to be changed and Pettine is the guy to do it. It's going to take a few years, but at least we are finally moving in the right direction.
^This.
It's been one year.
We improved.
On to Year Two...
Z
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Hey Jon Gruden has consistently said he'd love a chance to coach Manziel. Here's our chance to bring him back in the league as an OC.
Hey Jon Gruden has consistently said he'd love a chance to coach Manziel. Here's our chance to bring him back in the league as an OC.
His name is almost in the cowher league every time we have a coaching vacancy.
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I hear Marc Trestman is meeting a Realtor in Strongsville.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
I hear Marc Trestman is meeting a Realtor in Strongsville.
Zombo
A man with great experience in Cleveland. That would be an upgrade.
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Here's the opportunity....Tressman O.C....Kosar qb coach. Instant fan approval.
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Trestman or Weiss would make me feel a bit better. Neither would blow up the run game or ZBS. Although the passing game would look a bit different.
Trestman or Weiss would make me feel a bit better. Neither would blow up the run game or ZBS. Although the passing game would look a bit different.
Trestman has been a very successful OC in the past. Including with the Browns. How can any coach be any good with Jay Cutler.....plus a huge problem with Chicago this past year was one of the worst defenses going.....not Trestman's area.
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Hey Jon Gruden has consistently said he'd love a chance to coach Manziel. Here's our chance to bring him back in the league as an OC.
His name is almost in the cowher league every time we have a coaching vacancy.
His name is almost in the cowher league every time we have a coaching vacancy.
Gruden wants to be the next John Madden.....a Super Bowl winning coach that goes on to a "Hall of Fame" announcing career. He is not in the market.....expecially not for an OC job. If he wanted anything he would take an HC job.
But how about this name: Brian Billick. SB winning coach......but he too seems to want to stay in broadcasting....and certainly would not want to be an OC.
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Well that might be the case. Still it's speculation and we have no idea what would have happened against Cincinnati if any other quarterback started that game. I'm assuming it would have ended the same.Yes, he did. Frittered it away with his insistence that he needed a "night" life more than a "day" job.
WSS
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Yes, he did. Frittered it away with his insistence that he needed a "night" life more than a "day" job.
Lol, well put.
Well that might be the case. Still it's speculation and we have no idea what would have happened against Cincinnati if any other quarterback started that game. I'm assuming it would have ended the same.
WSS
I'd think it's safe to say it would not have been a shutout if Hoyer had been in there. A field goal or two would've happened at the least. Speculation for ya but I do believe that.
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