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End of Season Awards....2014

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  • B browns52

    @mudfly said:

    Slow week....lots of time....so I decided to give end of year player awards to this years team. The players are lined up at my door waiting for their trophies.....each has multiple choices with my picks in red...

    Rookie of the year:

    1) Terrence West ....3rd round pick....670 yards rushing...4 tds

    2) Isaiah Crowell....UDFA .....607 yards rushing.....8 tds

    3) Joe Bitonio.......2nd round pick......no stats, just a bad ass player

    Most surprising player:

    1) K'waun Williams

    2) Taylor Gabriel

    3) Isaiah Crowell

    4) Ray Farmer...my choice, only because he selected the 3 guys listed above....and they ALL were NICE surprises

    Most disappointing player:

    1) Johnny Football....for obvious reasons

    2) Justin Gilbert....for obvious reasons

    3) Barkevious Mingo....my choice, over the 2 rookies, because he 'was" those rookies last year and should have shown more improvement. In the end, I had higher expectations for him than I did the 1st year guys. Yes, he had a shoulder issue. BUT, that's just an excuse. He's a terrible tackler with or without the harness. Sorry.

    Most Improved player:

    1) Paul Kruger....a return to form after a down season....

    2) Craig Robertson....really stepped up his game this year...(kirksey and Dansby are pushin)

    3) Buster Skrine....went from average to very good....for my money, he took the biggest step at a very difficult position....

    Best Administrative move:

    1) Hiring Mike Pettine...a solid move and one I think will pay off.

    2) Firing Banner and Lombardi....what took you so long?

    3) Promoting Ray Farmer to GM......brilliant!

    4) All of the above...we're heading the right way!

    Best off-season move:

    1) Carlos Dansby....talent and leadership...a nice pick-up

    2) Donte Whitner...talent, leadership and hometown roots....another one I like

    3) Andrew Hawkins....much needed talent who ended up leading the team

    4) Alex Mack...never would have guessed his value at the time, but CLEARLY it was the smartest one and he is THE MAN!

    Worst off-season move:

    1) TJ Ward....allowing pro-bowl talent to leave?

    2) Kyle Shanahan....waiting too long to select our coach & staff?

    3) Ben Tate....signing a star back, only to cut him later? Not really a "bad" move, but I have to pick something.

    Offensive MVP:

    1) Brian Hoyer......started great and got us some wins...big comebacks, etc.....

    2) Baby Backs.....West & Crowell combined to bring our run game back....nice!

    3) Alex Mack....no, he wasn't here most of the year, but have to say I still think he may be our offensive MVP

    Defensive MVP:

    1) Tashaun Gipson....played lights out and earned a pro-bowl spot!

    2) Paul Kruger....really improved his game....led the team in sacks...a very solid season

    3) Carlos Dansby....excellent well rounded player....a real leader

    4) Joe Haden....played lights out and earned another pro-bowl spot...started slow, but was spectacular thru most of the season....my pick!

    Most Improved/best Offensive Unit:

    1) Offensive line....was ranked #1 when healthy....but died with one injury...close, but need depth

    2) Wide Receivers....compared to Bess/Little/Massaquo, we are in great shape....lots of room to grow

    3) Running Back....my choice by a mile....completely turned around and added depth....I like it!

    Most Improved/best Defensive Unit:

    1) Defensive line....ok, we didn't really improve it AND it was not out best unit...depth saved the season

    2) Linebackers....we certainly improved...added Kirksey & Dansby...Kruger/Robertson stepped up...

    3) Defensive backfield....SLAM DUNK WINNER!....Added Whitner, Gilbert, Williams & Desir....watched Skrine, Haden and Gipson get better...in time, this will be the best DB group we've ever had!!!

    OK.....THERE THEY ARE....YOUR 2014 CLEVELAND BROWNS TEAM AWARDS!!!

    I am so optimistic that we have a solid core....will get better(fast)....and a SUPER BOWL victory is in our sites!!!!

    if mack would not have been injured, hoyer would have had even a better yr than he did...macks loss was terrible...i think we could have gone to the playoffs if did not get injured...he is that important and that good...skrine, everyone complains about him..he does get flagged alot, but again you hit it with the tough position to play...i think he is a scrapper and needs to stay...i'd like to see them get rid of johnny feeble..i don't think he has the talent even if he does get serious about his JOB....bad draft pick...should have kept tjward because then we would not have had to draft another bust in gilbert to replace him...instead we could have drafted watkins and got rid of the pothead also...we'd be in so much better shape than we are now...my guess is that hoyer is gone...i would leave to if i were him after being benched for a party animal...

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    @browns52 said:

    if mack would not have been injured, hoyer would have had even a better yr than he did...macks loss was terrible...i think we could have gone to the playoffs if did not get injured...he is that important and that good...skrine, everyone complains about him..he does get flagged alot, but again you hit it with the tough position to play...i think he is a scrapper and needs to stay...i'd like to see them get rid of johnny feeble..i don't think he has the talent even if he does get serious about his JOB....bad draft pick...should have kept tjward because then we would not have had to draft another bust in gilbert to replace him...instead we could have drafted watkins and got rid of the pothead also...we'd be in so much better shape than we are now...my guess is that hoyer is gone...i would leave to if i were him after being benched for a party animal...

    Losing Mack was a ball breaker. But, by the 2nd preseason game everyone on this board knew that if we

    lost ANYONE on the Oline we were in trouble. It was obvious in preseason that when the first team Oline left

    the field we had NOTHING to replace them with. No depth to speak of.

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      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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      we'll see if signing mack was 'great' or not depending on how he returns from injury. not saying that he isn't/wasn't one of the best centers in the game but i'd think any kind of damage to an OLs leg might set him back........don't know if there is a precedent or comparable injury to same position player.

      ward wanted to go to a 'winner' and get closer to home.

      mingo gets another year sans injury (because pettine loves the guy) and if he doesn't become what some of think he can.....'el goneo.

      and cal what does wearing a tshirt have to do with catching a football? hawkins will always be a #3 because that's what slot guys are.

      everything else you guys nailed.

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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        It was a distraction, could have been a bit of controversy in

        the lockerroom, I don't know.

        What does his t shirt have to do with

        being on your way out onto the field

        for the biggest game of the year, outside

        of playing Pittspuke?

        Just my opinion. I think they played their worst game of the year to that week.

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          @calfoxwc said:

          About T J Ward...I think there must have been something going on

          with negotiations, or his conduct/work ethic or something.

          I agree there were problems there and think he wasn't a good teamer when the chips were down....

          His last year here, I know there were a couple incidents in the locker room with him after some losses....basically finger pointing, yelling and crying out loud...and not in a good constructive way....and not "like a Brown"

          I also noticed that none of his teammates spoke up about him leaving either.....they were all like... "whatever....see ya"

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          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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          @mudfly said:

          I agree there were problems there and think he wasn't a good teamer when the chips were down....

          His last year here, I know there were a couple incidents in the locker room with him after some losses....basically finger pointing, yelling and crying out loud...and not in a good constructive way....and not "like a Brown"

          I also noticed that none of his teammates spoke up about him leaving either.....they were all like... "whatever....see ya"

          TJ Ward (along with Phil Dawson) were not offered a contract to stay by the Banner/Lombardi regime.

          Great thread Mud.

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            It was a distraction, could have been a bit of controversy in

            the lockerroom, I don't know.

            What does his t shirt have to do with

            being on your way out onto the field

            for the biggest game of the year, outside

            of playing Pittspuke?

            Just my opinion. I think they played their worst game of the year to that week.

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            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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            @calfoxwc said:

            What does his t shirt have to do with

            being on your way out onto the field

            for the biggest game of the year, outside

            of playing Pittspuke?

            exactly. it has nothing to do with anything except his opinion, which i don't agree with BUT this is america.

            anyways, he was a great addition to the team, there's no ifs, ands or buts about that.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              Yes, he was. I just wonder if that was controversial in the lockerroom.

              The Browns played their worst up to that time, and I just wonder.

              Just my dumb opinion. I have those once in a while here...

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                @mudfly said:

                I agree there were problems there and think he wasn't a good teamer when the chips were down....

                His last year here, I know there were a couple incidents in the locker room with him after some losses....basically finger pointing, yelling and crying out loud...and not in a good constructive way....and not "like a Brown"

                I also noticed that none of his teammates spoke up about him leaving either.....they were all like... "whatever....see ya"

                TJ Ward (along with Phil Dawson) were not offered a contract to stay by the Banner/Lombardi regime.

                Great thread Mud.

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                @canton-dawg said:

                TJ Ward (along with Phil Dawson) were not offered a contract to stay by the Banner/Lombardi regime.

                Great thread Mud.

                Probably because they both said "don't bother". Both wanted to play for winning teams- could have franchised Ward- not worth it- and Dawson signed with SF for less money than he was getting from the Browns.

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  Seemed like a good place to post Reed's take on D-Backfield's year. Not a great deal different than our consensus view.

                  http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/secondary_was_primary_reason_f.html

                  "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                    Seemed like a good place to post Reed's take on D-Backfield's year. Not a great deal different than our consensus view.

                    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/secondary_was_primary_reason_f.html

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                    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Seemed like a good place to post Reed's take on D-Backfield's year. Not a great deal different than our consensus view.

                    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/secondary_was_primary_reason_f.html

                    Interesting how low they have Skrine rated. would have expected a little better really.....

                    Even before seeing that, I had justified that he'll probably be gone....Desir, Williams and Gilbert will be expected to step in and handle it

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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Seemed like a good place to post Reed's take on D-Backfield's year. Not a great deal different than our consensus view.

                      http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/secondary_was_primary_reason_f.html

                      Interesting how low they have Skrine rated. would have expected a little better really.....

                      Even before seeing that, I had justified that he'll probably be gone....Desir, Williams and Gilbert will be expected to step in and handle it

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                      @mudfly said:

                      ...Desir, Williams and Gilbert will be expected to step in and handle it

                      Or... Williams, Desir and Gilbert... 😉

                      Plus I am sure at least one, fresh college face will be added to our DB stable... more if Desir gets Safety work.

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