textgate...who was it?
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can someone explain why it would cost us a draft pick in any case? why the fuck would it matter if some jackass in the front office was texting shanny play suggestions? That's dysfunctional as hell but gives nobody any unfair advantages...if anything it's fucking with your own OC and potentially costing you a game.
I don't get it either. Norv Turner was calling plays from the press box. Some OC's are not on the field
I don't get it either. Norv Turner was calling plays from the press box. Some OC's are not on the field
that would be the coaches box, not the press box......press box is media
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I don't get it either. Norv Turner was calling plays from the press box. Some OC's are not on the field
that would be the coaches box, not the press box......press box is media
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I dont get your question or why where norv sat matters.....but there is a huge difference between who would be in the press box and who would be in the coaches box....
I dont get your question or why where norv sat matters.....but there is a huge difference between who would be in the press box and who would be in the coaches box....
My question is, What does it matter where someone is sitting? They are all up above the field, with a better view of the game.
If the owner is in the coaches box, can he call plays then? And what if the OC is in the owners box, can he not call plays?
What's to stop an owner, from saying he's a coach too?
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
It not about calling in plays...it's about using cell phones on the sidelines.....
its 2 problems....
IE...the NFL is worried about cell phones...
and Kyle Shanahan is worried about being second guessed....
It not about calling in plays...it's about using cell phones on the sidelines.....
its 2 problems....
IE...the NFL is worried about cell phones...
and Kyle Shanahan is worried about being second guessed....
If Shanahan was getting texts wouldn't there be video evidence of him looking at his phone? The entire bench is on camera.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Also when I'm at the games my phone is soooooooooo slow it wouldn't matter if someone was texting me.
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It not about calling in plays...it's about using cell phones on the sidelines.....
its 2 problems....
IE...the NFL is worried about cell phones...
and Kyle Shanahan is worried about being second guessed....
If Shanahan was getting texts wouldn't there be video evidence of him looking at his phone? The entire bench is on camera.
If Shanahan was getting texts wouldn't there be video evidence of him looking at his phone? The entire bench is on camera.
You would think......and it would be an indictment against him too, i think, for having it with him and on....correct?
Doesn't matter....none of it happened.....no one texted him plays during the game.......
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If Shanahan was getting texts wouldn't there be video evidence of him looking at his phone? The entire bench is on camera.
You would think......and it would be an indictment against him too, i think, for having it with him and on....correct?
Doesn't matter....none of it happened.....no one texted him plays during the game.......
You would think......and it would be an indictment against him too, i think, for having it with him and on....correct?
Doesn't matter....none of it happened.....no one texted him plays during the game.......
Well, we have seen what kind of guy he is.
He doesn't handle adversity very well IMO.
If he ever gets a head coaching job he will be like Shurmer IMO
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Here's how she keeps her job. She listens to rumors and reports them. The rumors are never that extraordinary but as soon as we read them we start to extrapolate all sorts of possible meanings. Then the broadcasters who need to fill up at least 12 hours of airtime listen to those rumors and start making up their own stories. Then we hyperventilate for days over the stuff that we've made up our selves. And scramble to grab the nearest newspaper or get on cleveland.com to find out what she says next. She's not on the practice field, neither is Tony Grossi. Neither is Terry Pluto but he's a hell of a writer. Now who told you guys we could lose a first round draft pick? Where did you hear that exactly?
WSS
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A. I read that it's just a fine. I think the number was 25 grand or something.
B. Mary Kay Cabot sucks. She's like a Hollywood gossip columnist who doesn't care
about being honest.
Think Tom Melody of the Beacon Journal in the old days. He finally ended up up not
covering sports, I think.
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A. I read that it's just a fine. I think the number was 25 grand or something.
B. Mary Kay Cabot sucks. She's like a Hollywood gossip columnist who doesn't care
about being honest.
Think Tom Melody of the Beacon Journal in the old days. He finally ended up up not
covering sports, I think.
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I dont get your question or why where norv sat matters.....but there is a huge difference between who would be in the press box and who would be in the coaches box....
My question is, What does it matter where someone is sitting? They are all up above the field, with a better view of the game.
If the owner is in the coaches box, can he call plays then? And what if the OC is in the owners box, can he not call plays?
What's to stop an owner, from saying he's a coach too?
MKC's game is innuendo and half-truths with enough verifiable facts and names stirred in to confuse the issue.
It's plausible that a staffer or staffers were texting Shanny during the game, but if he did not have his phone with him, as he should not have, then it becomes an personal irritant rather than a league violation.
What's to stop an owner, from saying he's a coach too?
The League would be my guess. I know MLB has such rules and would be surprised if the NFL did not as well.
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MKC's game is innuendo and half-truths with enough verifiable facts and names stirred in to confuse the issue.
It's plausible that a staffer or staffers were texting Shanny during the game, but if he did not have his phone with him, as he should not have, then it becomes an personal irritant rather than a league violation.
What's to stop an owner, from saying he's a coach too?
The League would be my guess. I know MLB has such rules and would be surprised if the NFL did not as well.
MKC's game is innuendo and half-truths with enough verifiable facts and names stirred in to confuse the issue.
It's plausible that a staffer or staffers were texting Shanny during the game, but if he did not have his phone with him, as he should not have, then it becomes an personal irritant rather than a league violation.
The League would be my guess. I know MLB has such rules and would be surprised if the NFL did not as well.
Jerrah is GM of the Cowboys, what's to stop him from being the coach too?
Wasn't Al Davis coach/GM/Owner at one point for the Raiders?
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
I find it hilarious that this is a NFL rule.
:lol: :lol:"No electronic devices can be used during a game"
I see headsets, phones, iPads, printers cameras all over the sidelines.
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And here it is....looks like Tony Grossi decided to wait for the facts, instead of reporting rumors.....I knew this would come out eventually. Glad it happened today.....
As per Tony Grossi:
....there were non-football personnel texting disparaging remarks about coaching decisions, play-calls and use of players to each other during games. It was like two fans holding texting conversations during games. The problem was the โfansโ were team employees who exercised bad judgment. When coaches became aware of what was going on, they were understandably put off and brought it to the attention of GM Ray Farmer. From what I know, it was not a case of texting play suggestions to coaches.....
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2015/01/cleveland-browns-texting-update-nfl-news/
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A big dust up over nothing.
However if Manziel gets banished to the locker room again they should take away his smart phone.
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And here it is....looks like Tony Grossi decided to wait for the facts, instead of reporting rumors.....I knew this would come out eventually. Glad it happened today.....
As per Tony Grossi:
....there were non-football personnel texting disparaging remarks about coaching decisions, play-calls and use of players to each other during games. It was like two fans holding texting conversations during games. The problem was the โfansโ were team employees who exercised bad judgment. When coaches became aware of what was going on, they were understandably put off and brought it to the attention of GM Ray Farmer. From what I know, it was not a case of texting play suggestions to coaches.....
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2015/01/cleveland-browns-texting-update-nfl-news/
And here it is....looks like Tony Grossi decided to wait for the facts, instead of reporting rumors.....I knew this would come out eventually. Glad it happened today.....
As per Tony Grossi:
....there were non-football personnel texting disparaging remarks about coaching decisions, play-calls and use of players to each other during games. It was like two fans holding texting conversations during games. The problem was the โfansโ were team employees who exercised bad judgment. When coaches became aware of what was going on, they were understandably put off and brought it to the attention of GM Ray Farmer. From what I know, it was not a case of texting play suggestions to coaches.....
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2015/01/cleveland-browns-texting-update-nfl-news/
So you're saying you do not read that as "texting to the sidelines?"
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MKC's game is innuendo and half-truths with enough verifiable facts and names stirred in to confuse the issue.
It's plausible that a staffer or staffers were texting Shanny during the game, but if he did not have his phone with him, as he should not have, then it becomes an personal irritant rather than a league violation.
The League would be my guess. I know MLB has such rules and would be surprised if the NFL did not as well.
Jerrah is GM of the Cowboys, what's to stop him from being the coach too?
Wasn't Al Davis coach/GM/Owner at one point for the Raiders?
Jerrah is GM of the Cowboys, what's to stop him from being the coach too?
Wasn't Al Davis coach/GM/Owner at one point for the Raiders?
1. A rule?
2. No. Al was Raider HC, then left to become AFL Commissioner, then returned as Raider Part Owner and GM. The only HC/GM/Owner I know of was Halas... and that was a while ago.
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