NFL Fox reporting Browns are hiring John DeFilippo as new OC
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Agreed. Some of these assholes think you should go root for another team if your not content making the playoffs once every 15 years.No disrepsect taken but I have a different view. I want to see my team do everything in it's power to win. I want my team committed to winning. I want a coach that hates losing as much as I do. I want an organization that makes smart moves not dumb ones. I want a team that is hungry and always trying to improve. I will always be a Browns fan but I won't pat them on the back for being mediocre.
I'll be a fan and go to several games a year if we never win another fucking game. Some of you need to own up to the fact that our franchise sucks right now, and we need a major culture change in the FO to turn it around. I'm still believe in Farmer, but I'm starting to get skeptical..
Agreed. Some of these assholes think you should go root for another team if your not content making the playoffs once every 15 years.
I'll be a fan and go to several games a year if we never win another fucking game. Some of you need to own up to the fact that our franchise sucks right now, and we need a major culture change in the FO to turn it around. I'm still believe in Farmer, but I'm starting to get skeptical..
Absolutely we suck, but I see a change to the positive.
Culture change is ongoing, it's just not going to happen overnight (wish it would).
I really want to wait and see how things start unfolding this Off-Season, but I'm really starting to think this Coaching Staff will be here next year.
Not saying our record will be better, but I see positive movement.
Hell, we don't even have a QB at this point, last year we were all calling for 3 - 13 (6 -10 personally, later upped to 8 - 8).
It's January, Combine and FA is still to come - who knows what's going to shake out from all of that.
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no. it's just some assholes love to post negative shit and tell us all how bad our favorite team is.
do you sit around with your boyfriends and tell them how fat your wife's coony is?
stupid fuck.
You're such a dumbass it's a waste of time trying to explain why.
I'm a die hard Browns fan and I will be for life. That doesn't mean I'm obligated to think every draft, or coaching change, is a fucking great decision. That''s called being Naive, you POS.
Maybe he'll be great, maybe he'll suck, we'll see. One thing is for sure, you're dumbass has NO F'ing clue anymore than anyone else with an opinion. Same with Gilbert, even after all on the field evidence points toward bust.
It's the sunshine pumper fans like a lot of you douchebags that are keeping this franchise in the gutter. Question decisions and demand success. You faggots are happy with a hire that is completely unproven, the most inexperienced OC in the league. How could you not catch on to the trend going on, we've fuckin sucked since the return.
Because I call out bad decisions I should go root to another team? Jesus Christ! You're part of the problem.
It's the sunshine pumper fans like a lot of you douchebags that are keeping this franchise in the gutter. Question decisions and demand success. You faggots are happy with a hire that is completely unproven, the most inexperienced OC in the league. How could you not catch on to the trend going on, we've fuckin sucked since the return.
you do see what a psycho you are, correct?
Agreed. Some of these assholes think you should go root for another team if your not content making the playoffs once every 15 years.
I'll be a fan and go to several games a year if we never win another fucking game. Some of you need to own up to the fact that our franchise sucks right now, and we need a major culture change in the FO to turn it around. I'm still believe in Farmer, but I'm starting to get skeptical..
i know from personal experience that it's awesome to wake up with your bed on fire. the smell of a duck-filled quilt burning i the midnight is just magic. smoke inhalation of depressing black clouds. sorta what you whiners spew.
are the browns winning? well not .500 yet, but they did post a 7 year high even with a first year HC, a pitiful OC, first rounders that looked like shit and not to mention a TON of injuries.
yeah it's people like me that are the problem why my fave team isn't a super bowl contender.
it's people like you that make babies cry.
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It's the sunshine pumper fans like a lot of you douchebags that are keeping this franchise in the gutter. Question decisions and demand success. You faggots are happy with a hire that is completely unproven, the most inexperienced OC in the league. How could you not catch on to the trend going on, we've fuckin sucked since the return.
you do see what a psycho you are, correct?
Agreed. Some of these assholes think you should go root for another team if your not content making the playoffs once every 15 years.
I'll be a fan and go to several games a year if we never win another fucking game. Some of you need to own up to the fact that our franchise sucks right now, and we need a major culture change in the FO to turn it around. I'm still believe in Farmer, but I'm starting to get skeptical..
i know from personal experience that it's awesome to wake up with your bed on fire. the smell of a duck-filled quilt burning i the midnight is just magic. smoke inhalation of depressing black clouds. sorta what you whiners spew.
are the browns winning? well not .500 yet, but they did post a 7 year high even with a first year HC, a pitiful OC, first rounders that looked like shit and not to mention a TON of injuries.
yeah it's people like me that are the problem why my fave team isn't a super bowl contender.
it's people like you that make babies cry.
you do see what a psycho you are, correct?
i know from personal experience that it's awesome to wake up with your bed on fire. the smell of a duck-filled quilt burning i the midnight is just magic. smoke inhalation of depressing black clouds. sorta what you whiners spew.
are the browns winning? well not .500 yet, but they did post a 7 year high even with a first year HC, a pitiful OC, first rounders that looked like shit and not to mention a TON of injuries.
yeah it's people like me that are the problem why my fave team isn't a super bowl contender.
it's people like you that make babies cry.
You're right, we almost made .500 this year! Things are looking great!
Idiot.
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To me, Johnny is trade bait until he either performs or fails over a 6 game stretch.
Even after he fails, Dallas would still probably give up a second.
I'm hearing 6th if that.
If the guy puts in the effort he might be good, but it really doesn't look like he's willing to do that.
He caused a stir among the Team as posted in the 2015 - FA / Draft / Notes thread, but the guy was rich before he came to the NFL so his motivation is low, and seems to only care about partying.
I'm not sold that he has the physical attributes to succeed, the intangibles aren't unknown until he puts in the effort.
I'm hearing 6th if that.
If the guy puts in the effort he might be good, but it really doesn't look like he's willing to do that.
He caused a stir among the Team as posted in the 2015 - FA / Draft / Notes thread, but the guy was rich before he came to the NFL so his motivation is low, and seems to only care about partying.
I'm not sold that he has the physical attributes to succeed, the intangibles aren't unknown until he puts in the effort.
2nd from Jerrah. Easily.
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annnnnnd now.......here comes the Sanchez speculation........
Probably late (forum irregularities), but Sanchez is currently being linked as the hot #1 target to go to the Jets since Ryan took over . . . good or bad, that's the read.
Also good or bad (good IMO), Hoyer is the hottest prospect for Cleveland . . . and I sincerely hope we land him.
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When the Browns hired Pettine I did not know anything about him. I was disappointed because other coaches I wanted either flat out turned down the Browns or went to other teams. When I read up on Pettine I saw the Browns had done their homework and gotten the best coach possible. I believe DeFilippo is the OC Pettine wanted. Until proven otherwise I will trust his judgment. Regardless I did not want Shanahan in Cleveland when he did not want to be in Cleveland.
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So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.It's not about what I am saying it is about what happened... Do you not understand? Horrible bust of a draft.
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If you truly are a season ticket holder- you damn well know the reason you re-up every year.
He's not a season ticket holder. He's full of shit. Just 3 seasons ago when we all made the trip for the opener against the Eagles, Rooster Dick was looking for a free ticket to go to the game. Because he's rooster dick and a pansy ass, he didn't get Zombos seat (who didn't make it that year) and it sat empty.
He's not a season ticket holder. He's full of shit. Just 3 seasons ago when we all made the trip for the opener against the Eagles, Rooster Dick was looking for a free ticket to go to the game. Because he's rooster dick and a pansy ass, he didn't get Zombos seat (who didn't make it that year) and it sat empty.
Thanks for calling the fraud out Mark.
I'm hearing 6th if that.
If the guy puts in the effort he might be good, but it really doesn't look like he's willing to do that.
He caused a stir among the Team as posted in the 2015 - FA / Draft / Notes thread, but the guy was rich before he came to the NFL so his motivation is low, and seems to only care about partying.
I'm not sold that he has the physical attributes to succeed, the intangibles aren't unknown until he puts in the effort.
That's part of Manziel's problem. If he totally fucks up, he's still rich. If he wants to be a champion boozer- he can drink himself to death like AC\DCs Bon Scott.
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So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.It's not about what I am saying it is about what happened... Do you not understand? Horrible bust of a draft.
So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.
Why, because he acknowledges fact? We did get some talent no doubts, we also whiffed HUGE with 2 1st rounders, again.
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So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.
Why, because he acknowledges fact? We did get some talent no doubts, we also whiffed HUGE with 2 1st rounders, again.
Why, because he acknowledges fact? We did get some talent no doubts, we also whiffed HUGE with 2 1st rounders, again.
gilbert will be fine. your blow boy though sucks ass.
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Since 99 the Browns have been laying a foundation to build on then constantly tearing down the foundation before anything get's built. I finally see something they can build on without tearing the whole foundation out. We have a new owner who is committed to winning. A smart GM who in his first draft by all accounts did well but made a huge error on Manziel. I cannot explain it. It makes no sense after they spent $100,000 for a study who to draft for QB and it wasn't JM. Then there were the red flags about JM they knew already, partying, effort, maturity, etc....Gilbert may still turn around. After being disciplined he has promised to do better. I don't fault Farmer for picking him. How could anyone know he wouldn't play to his potential? Now he needs to follow through with his words by his actions. Then we have Pettine who was a real find for this team. He is a good players coach who also seems to be a good disciplinarinan. He came here with a good resume and is well respected in the NFL.
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We got three starting players, a future starter, trade bait, and some depth.
Don't like it? Too bad, baby back bitch.
3 starting players? Trade bait? Please explain these three starter and trade bait drafted.
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So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.It's not about what I am saying it is about what happened... Do you not understand? Horrible bust of a draft.
So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.
Uh ohh the idiots are out in full blast now. What a bust of a draft you can't even name me these great players that were drafted last year.
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So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.
Uh ohh the idiots are out in full blast now. What a bust of a draft you can't even name me these great players that were drafted last year.
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Why, because he acknowledges fact? We did get some talent no doubts, we also whiffed HUGE with 2 1st rounders, again.
gilbert will be fine. your blow boy though sucks ass.
gilbert will be fine. your blow boy though sucks ass.
Oh ok, if Mik's bitch ass says he'll be fine. Forget him losing pt to an undrafted FA, and Desir because he sucked terribly on the field. What does how he plays have to do with anything, just have some blind faith like Mik's dumb ass.
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I think it's called "pruning". Housecleaning was, and still would be, a gross overreaction. Whatever Shanny's issues were I'd say that the team felt, if not knew of, their existence by Week 15.
GuNNerGatSKy said:
He's from Youngstown. Tressel is from Youngstown. I'm from Youngstown. Nothing but hard working, bad muthafuckers come from Youngstown.
I think it's called "pruning". Housecleaning was, and still would be, a gross overreaction. Whatever Shanny's issues were I'd say that the team felt, if not knew of, their existence by Week 15.
Hahaha that was pretty slick there tour I see what ya did haha.
But in all seriousness: Youngstown is synonymous with hardworking badassery.
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To me, Johnny is trade bait until he either performs or fails over a 6 game stretch.
Even after he fails, Dallas would still probably give up a second.
Got it... Thought you were referring to JM, but wanted to be sure.
You're right, we almost made .500 this year! Things are looking great!
Idiot.
It's called progress... which is great compared to treading water around 4-12.
"Idiot" better describes those that feel we should have gone 12-4 one-year removed from treading water.
As for your running Gilbert argument. No, not a bust, not yet. Also not worth the #1 spent on him, not yet. The jury is still out.
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To me, Johnny is trade bait until he either performs or fails over a 6 game stretch.
Even after he fails, Dallas would still probably give up a second.
Got it... Thought you were referring to JM, but wanted to be sure.
You're right, we almost made .500 this year! Things are looking great!
Idiot.
It's called progress... which is great compared to treading water around 4-12.
"Idiot" better describes those that feel we should have gone 12-4 one-year removed from treading water.
As for your running Gilbert argument. No, not a bust, not yet. Also not worth the #1 spent on him, not yet. The jury is still out.
Got it... Thought you were referring to JM, but wanted to be sure.
It's called progress... which is great compared to treading water around 4-12.
"Idiot" better describes those that feel we should have gone 12-4 one-year removed from treading water.
As for your running Gilbert argument. No, not a bust, not yet. Also not worth the #1 spent on him, not yet. The jury is still out.
That's reasonable logic, but I won't apologize for lacking blind faith. As a fanbase, at this point, we need to see it to believe it. Put up or shut up because all the talk is just that.
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Got it... Thought you were referring to JM, but wanted to be sure.
It's called progress... which is great compared to treading water around 4-12.
"Idiot" better describes those that feel we should have gone 12-4 one-year removed from treading water.
As for your running Gilbert argument. No, not a bust, not yet. Also not worth the #1 spent on him, not yet. The jury is still out.
That's reasonable logic, but I won't apologize for lacking blind faith. As a fanbase, at this point, we need to see it to believe it. Put up or shut up because all the talk is just that.
That's reasonable logic, but I won't apologize for lacking blind faith. As a fanbase, at this point, we need to see it to believe it. Put up or shut up because all the talk is just that.
So's pissing and moaning and belly aching and crying and bitching and whining .......
Ya don't like it don't watch it.
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We got three starting players, a future starter, trade bait, and some depth.
Don't like it? Too bad, baby back bitch.
3 starting players? Trade bait? Please explain these three starter and trade bait drafted.
Bitonio, West and Kirksey are all starters. Desir actually started a game as well. (And so did Manziel, I guess.) So technically 5 starters.3 starting players? Trade bait? Please explain these three starter and trade bait drafted.
Bitonio was graded out not only as one of the most impactful rookies, but also as one of the best guards in the NFL in 2014. Both West and Desir are considered to be major steals in the draft by literally every major scout and analyst, both started this season, and both will compete for starting jobs in camp this offseason. Kirksey will also likely compete for a starting job. He started 8 games as a rookie but contributed in all 16 and has received positive reviews from coaches and analysts.
If they don't shape up, Manziel or Gilbert can and will be traded at some point within the next two years. There's no two ways around it. If they don't get traded, it's because they have grown the fuck up and taken hold of their job...which is still good.
Once camp rolls around, I fully expect Gilbert to change and take hold of his starting job. I also fully expect the catalyst behind this change will either be Donte Whitner jackslapping the shit out of him in camp or Desir just curb stomping him in terms of performance.
They got three foundational players in rounds 2-6, an extra first round pick, an extra fourth round pick, and two guys who might (we hope) turn into dynamic NFL players. And, if they don't, there will be value there via trade later. Even assuming both Manziel and Gilbert never play another down, that's still three-four starters and two picks in the top 116 in the 2015 Draft.
Bitonio, West and Kirksey are all starters. Desir actually started a game as well. (And so did Manziel, I guess.) So technically 5 starters.3 starting players? Trade bait? Please explain these three starter and trade bait drafted.
Bitonio was graded out as one of the best guards in the NFL. Go ahead and try to take issue with that. Both West and Desir are considered to be major steals in the draft by literally every major scout and analyst. Kirksey will likely com
Manziel or Gilbert can and will be traded at some point within the next two years. There's no two ways around it. If they don't get traded, it's because they have grown the fuck up and taken hold of their job...which is still good.
And none of this is taking into account the UDFA's acquired by Farmer who both started and shined this season.
The difference between you and I is that you judge the draft off of the performance of the first round, big name guys...whereas I look at the performance of everyone.
The other difference is that you're a wet-brained idiot and I'm not.
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